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Title: scottish relitives
Post by: witch1 on Saturday 18 October 08 10:18 BST (UK)
hi all
can someone tell me is it possible to lok up bmds for scotish rellies anywhere else or only on scotlands people.
i have some credits left for findmypast but i amnot sure if they cover scotland. iam looking for my grandads family the only info i have is daniel f callaghan born june 1909 fathers name john
siblings marget,edward,john,mary isabella. i dont have any dates or info but my mum seems to think they came from dundee.
my grandad daniel was in the royal scots 1st battalion he married in leeds yorkshire in 1937 and died in leeds in 1978
thanks in anticipation
eileen
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 10:26 BST (UK)
Hi

If it's after 1875, then SP is the best resource unless you live near a large records office/archives in Scotland.  To my knowledge, there are no Scottish records on FindMyPast.

The IGI www.familysearch.org is a very good source for Scottish records before about 1875. Not all of these are online though but the films can be ordered through a Family History centre.

Note that the SP records prior to 1855 (baptisms/marriages) are derived from the old parish records of the C of Scotland, although the IGI does have some records of other denominations.


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: witch1 on Saturday 18 October 08 10:37 BST (UK)
thanks gadget
i will have a look familysearch i think allmy scottish rellies were roman catholics if that makes any diferance
do all the census only applie to england as well
kind regards
eileen
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 18 October 08 10:40 BST (UK)
Hello Eileen

findmypast doesn't cover Scotland for bmds, but you can find the Scottish census on ancestry which might help.

If you don't have his marriage certificate, it might be useful in showing his father's occupation, which would help to find him in the census

you can order it (if this is the correct one) through the Yorkshire bmd website http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
1937  CALLAGHAN   Daniel   CLIFFE   Florence H   Leeds South Registered Building

Barbara
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 10:41 BST (UK)
Hi

If they were Roman Catholic, they wouldn't appear on SP before 1855. Some of the RC records have survived  but I don't know which ones.

The Scottish censuses are up as an index on Ancestry but not on FindMyPast. Again, SP has an index and images for them.  You can also order films of the censuses via FH Centres.

Here are a couple of threads that might be useful:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html


Gadget  :)

Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: witch1 on Saturday 18 October 08 10:44 BST (UK)
ecneps
i have his birth cert which shows his father john was a cabinet maker
how will that help as i did not think you could search on occupation
eileen
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 18 October 08 10:48 BST (UK)
No, but you can check all the John Callaghans to see if there is one with that occupation

Have had a quick look but can't see one living in or from Dundee.... still looking...

As Gadget says (morning Gadget  :)) ancestry just has the index to the Scottish census, whereas scotlandspeople has the full images.

Barbara
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 18 October 08 10:50 BST (UK)
If you have his birth cert, what was his mother's full name?  It's possible to find them in 1901 census if they were married by then
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 10:51 BST (UK)
You can order the post-1906 births via Scotlands People but they cost £10 and it takes a few weeks to get them. However, this would give you both parents names and when they married which would help you get a 'hook' on them in the censuses and their own births.

Have you got the ref of the 1909 birth?


(Hello Barbara   :) )


Gadget
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: witch1 on Saturday 18 October 08 10:56 BST (UK)
sorry ecnaps
i ment his marriage cert
lol
eileen
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 13:46 BST (UK)
Hi  :)

There is a birth entry for Daniel Callaghan in Lochee, Dundee in 1909  on SP

There is also a marriage entry for a John Callaghan and Mary Isabella Burns at St Mary's Chapel, Lochee, on 27 July 1908 - according to the forms of the Roman Catholic Church.

John is shown as aged 24 and a Calender worker, living at 6 Atholl Street, Lochee. His parents were Daniel Callaghan, Calender worker, deceased and Teresa m.s. O'Neill

Mary Isabella was 24 and a jute spinner, living at 2 Yeomans(?)  Lane, Lochee. Her parents were Arthur Burns, a flax dresser and Mary m.s. Tierlay both deceased.

Witnesses - Daniel Callaghan and Maggie Cairns


This looks very promising  :)



Gadget
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 14:06 BST (UK)
Think this might be the family in 1901

12 Albert St, Lochee 282/5 Ed 7a page 3

Mrs Callaghan, 60, Housekeeper, b. Ireland
Danl,son, 40, Calender worker, b. Blairgowrie
Helen , dau, 32, spinner, b. Blairgowrie
John, grd son, 17, mill worker, b. Lochee
James, grdson, 15, mill worker, b. Lochee
Danl, grds, 12, mill worker, b. Lochee
Helen, grdd, 8, scholar, b. Lochee
Thos Donnolly, boarder, 12, mill worker, b. Glasgow

Not sure where Teresa m.s. O'Neill is  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 October 08 14:18 BST (UK)
1891

14 Albert St, Lochee  - 282/5 ED 6 Page 2o

Daniel Callaghan, 30, Calender worker, b. Blairgowrie
Teresa, 29, b. Lochee
John, 7, scholar, b. Lochee
Daniel, 2, b. Lochee



Gadget
Title: Re: scottish relitives
Post by: witch1 on Monday 20 October 08 07:41 BST (UK)
gadget
have just seen you post and i think you are correct on the imformation you have found. thanks for the time you took to help me i appreciate your help. i too had a look at sp and agree with you i will have to order granddads birth cert to prove the link but i am very gratful for the start you have given me.
kind regards eileen