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Title: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Friday 17 October 08 16:20 BST (UK)
Can anybody please help me find a FREDERICK WEBSTER MERRISON born about 1868 in Norfolk. He may be married to an EMMELINE born about 1869 in Northrepps.
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 16:32 BST (UK)


Hi Joan

I can't see them in 1891 at the moment, but there is a Frederick W Merrison b. 1864 Brandon, on board HMS Terror in Bermuda in 1901;  he is a colour sergeant in the RMLI

He says married - but I can't see an Emmeline just now

Might this be him?
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Friday 17 October 08 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi Mum44,
Yes, its very possible that its him, I found a marriage for an EMMELINE FOX to a FREDERICK WEBSTER MERRISON and I was trying to verify that was the correct Emmeline that I am researching. Looks like I might have to wait till 1911 for that one. Thanks so much for looking for me. Regards, Joan
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: jamajo on Friday 17 October 08 16:51 BST (UK)


 What about this one?

    1891     RG12 / 1557 / 66 / 2

Henry Fox head age 56 b Burnham Deepdale, Norfolk occ ag lab
Dinah wife age 54 b North Creake, Norfolk
Harry son, single, age 25 b Norfolk, occ ag lab
Clara dau age 21, single b Burnham Deepdale
Herbert H son, single age 19 b Brancaster, Norfolk, occ ag lab
Emmeline Merrison dau, married age 30 b Brancaster, Norfolk
Emmeline L Merrison granddaughter age 2 b Walmer, Kent
Frederick H H Merrison grandson age 2 months b Gateley, Norfolk

 Address Dixon Cottages, Ryburgh Road, Gateley.

               Sue
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 16:52 BST (UK)
Hi Joan :)

There is an Emmelina Fox born 1870 Northrepps on the 1881 census with her parents, George and Maria


An Emmelina Fox born 1870 Northrepps, unmarried, appears on the 1891  census
and the marriage you found took place in 1887, I think ???

Just saw the above posting ???

2 Emmelina Fox's ;D ;D


Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 17:00 BST (UK)


Well, the one Sue found, with a daughter born in Walmer, would fit with a husband in the RMLI, who were based at Chatham.  And if he were away at sea, her living with her parents would also be usual.

But this one seems too old?

Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:05 BST (UK)
I can't link the married Emmelina to her parents Henry and Dinah on previous census at the moment.

They are on the 1881 but she isn't with them


Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:17 BST (UK)
Right


Emmelina born 1861 is with parents Henry and Dinah on the 1871 so I think Joan has picked up the wrong Emmelina and she isn't the one born 1869 Northrepps



Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:23 BST (UK)
1871

Burnham Deepdale


Henry Fox 39 Head Farm bailiff born Burnham Deepdale
Dinah wife 38 Dressmaker b North Creake
Sarah A dau 14 b Brancaster
Emmeline dau 11 b Brancaster
Hannah dau 8 b Brancaster
Harry son   5 b Brancaster
Clara dau 6 weeks b Burnham Deepdale
Charles Painter Lodger 17 agric ser b Brancaster

 RG10/ 1856 Folio 130 Page 41

Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:31 BST (UK)
1881 - : RG11/ 1982 Folio 41 Page 18 - Fox family

1881 -  RG11 1249 Folio 89 Page 9 - Emmelina with birth date of 1859



Tricia

Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 17:34 BST (UK)


Ah well, Tricia -  if anyone else is researching that Emmeline Fox - her husband was in Bermuda in 1901  ;D

Joan still needs a husband for her Emmaline   ;D  :-\
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:40 BST (UK)
But we need Joan to tell us which Elizabeth Fox really is her Elizabeth Fox ;D ;D

The choice is hers ;D ;D


Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 17:44 BST (UK)


Oh  -  I thought hers was the Northrepps one   :(  :-\
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 17:50 BST (UK)
I think it is a bit confusing ;)

I was trying to verify that was the correct Emmeline that I am researching.

but then again. I am easily confused ;D

There isn't an Emmelina born Northrepps on the 1901 that I can see either with a Fox surname or without and I don't know enough about Norfolk to link her with any married Emmelina's on the 1901

Perhaps both Emmelina's belong to Joan


Have you ever started digging a hole for yourself and wish you hadn't started in the first place ;D ;D ::) ::)

Time for a gin!!!


Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 17:54 BST (UK)
I think it is a bit confusing ;)

I was trying to verify that was the correct Emmeline that I am researching.

but then again. I am easily confused ;D

There isn't an Emmelina born Northrepps on the 1901 that I can see  either with a Fox surname or without and I don't know enough about Norfolk to link her with any married Emmelina's on the 1901

Perhaps both Emmelina's belong to Joan

Have you ever started digging a hole for yourself and wish you hadn't started in the first place ;D ;D ::) ::)

Time for a gin!!!

Tricia

That's where I came unstuck - looking for Emmeline b, Northrepps and failing   :-\

I'll join you if I may - make mine a double    ;D  :o  :o

Mary
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 18:00 BST (UK)
Edging my bets now


1891

Erpingham Norfolk
 
Hannah Farrow Head 50 Farmer born Northrepps
Emmilena Fox neice Single 21 Domestic born Northrepps
Dennes Gray nephew Single 25 Farm servant born Northrepps


RG12/ 1510 Folio 11 Page 16

Tricia ;)   
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 18:13 BST (UK)


The only other marriages I can see within a 20 year period is for Emmaline Fox in 1905 in Hackney, London ,  and then one in Kent in 1909    :(
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 17 October 08 21:16 BST (UK)
Pity the names of the possible spouses don't match with any of Joans 'names' - then I think champagne would be in order and not gin ;D

And the trouble with FreeBMD is ..............................


Tricia
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Mum44 on Friday 17 October 08 21:19 BST (UK)


I think we'll just have to wait for Joan to come back and give her views  :D
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Saturday 18 October 08 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi Mum44 & Tricia,
Loved the banter between you two. Thank you both for trying to help.
The EMMELINE I am trying to find are with her parents in 1881 at Frogs Hall, Northrepps, Norfolk. Her parents are George Abraham Fox and his wife Maria.
They are in Sidestrand in 1891 but she was not with them. I did notice that there were a couple of Emmelines born within a few years of each other so I was trying to verify which was my Emmeline and if indeed it was a Merrison that she married. I expect both Emmelines belong to my family but have'nt come across the other one yet in my research. I'll see if I can find all my records (not very good at filing) and make sure I've entered everything correctly. Thanks again for all your help.
Regards, Joan
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 18 October 08 10:19 BST (UK)
Good morning Joan

Can we assume that your Emmelina is the one on the 1891 with her Aunt?

That safely excludes her from marrying the Merrison chap

Tricia :)
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Saturday 18 October 08 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Tricia,
Yes, I think that's definately the one, her mother was a GRAY and one of her relatives was married to a FARROW, although I haven't come across Hannah yet, but its early days.
Thanks so much Tricia.
Regards, Joan
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: menelm on Sunday 22 February 09 14:24 GMT (UK)

This is my g/grandparents entry. I have a family tree going back to 1732.


 What about this done?

    1891     RG12 / 1557 / 66 / 2

Henry Fox head age 56 b Burnham Deepdale, Norfolk occ ag lab
Dinah wife age 54 b North Creake, Norfolk
Harry son, single, age 25 b Norfolk, occ ag lab
Clara dau age 21, single b Burnham Deepdale
Herbert H son, single age 19 b Brancaster, Norfolk, occ ag lab
Emmeline Merrison dau, married age 30 b Brancaster, Norfolk
Emmeline L Merrison granddaughter age 2 b Walmer, Kent
Frederick H H Merrison grandson age 2 months b Gateley, Norfolk

 Address Dixon Cottages, Ryburgh Road, Gateley.

               Sue
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: menelm on Sunday 22 February 09 14:27 GMT (UK)
I have details on the Fox, Howard, Ainger and Edge families for Gt. Ryburgh, North Creake and Burnham Deepdale going back to 1732. Does anyone have any photos of these villages in 19c?
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: tomonkey on Wednesday 30 January 13 22:00 GMT (UK)
Hello,

My Great Great Grandfather is Frederick Merrison, he was in the Royal Navy and served in Bermuda, and was born in Norfolk area.

I think you guys are mentioning him here. Is this chat still active?
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Thursday 31 January 13 09:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Tomonkey,
Do you know if Frederick was in any way related to the FOX or Gray families in Norfolk?
Regards, Joan
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: tomonkey on Thursday 31 January 13 09:40 GMT (UK)
Hello. Yes Frederick's wife is Emmeline Fox. They have the same marriage folio number to prove it. So Emmeline is my great great grandmother. I have pictures of them that I can share. Are you on ancestry? Do you have any pictures or anything?

I am quite excited as I have found records for Frederick being convicted of theft at the age of 12, joining the navy at 15, and from family stories he was a very stern honest man so I am wondering if my grandad knew his grand father had a criminal record.

Tom.
Title: Re: 1891-1901
Post by: Finch on Thursday 31 January 13 10:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Tomonkey,
This is great, Emmeline would be a cousin to me through George Abraham Fox. My Great Grandfather X 6 was Edward Fox, don't have any dates on him yet.
I don't have any photo's of any of them so would be really grateful if you could send some over, I am so interested in what they looked like and their stories.
If you need any information that I can supply I will gladly share.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Joan
My e-mail address is j_finch2002@yahoo.co.uk