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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Oxfordshire => Topic started by: Cairns88 on Friday 17 October 08 15:33 BST (UK)
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hello!
I'm looking for information regarding my great great great grandfather....
Frederick Charles CAIRNS
BORN:1850 OXFORDSHIRE....but I have no idea where...
I know that in 1882 he was living in Herefordshire, England and then moved to Monmouthshire.
Does anyone have any information as to where he was born and who his parents were...?
Thank you :)
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Have you got him on the censuses? If so does he always just give Oxfordshire for his p - o-b
If you havent got him, then we can look, but dont want to duplicate effort
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I think I've found him on the 1881 census:
Llanganten, Brecon, Wales (Rg11 5455/90)
Frederick CAIRUS Head age 31 Born Witney, Oxfordshire Occ: gamekeeper
Emma CAIRUS wife 32 born Ledbury, Hereford
George F CAIRUS son 10 born Ross, Hereford
Emily A CAIRUS daughter 2 born Presteign, Radnorshire, Wales
Edward E CAIRUS son 11 mths born Penybont, Radnorshire, Wales.
I was hoping that I might be able to look up his birth/baptism as I have a few Oxon CDs from the FHS - but not Witney! Sorry!
Jill
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Thank you both for the info!!!!!
It looks like that 1881 cencus is right :):):)
I have his wife EMMA JONES (from Benjamins certifcates)
birth: hereford, so that has to be right :)
CAIRUS though.....would that be a spelling mistake on the cencus......? haha
The only census I have them on is the 1891 Wales Census
at 28 Brookside terrace, Cwmtillery, South Wales
And from my great grandfathers death cert Frederick is living in 19 Penybont terrace!!!
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FreeBMD has no birth of a Frederick CAirns or Frederick Charles Cairns in Oxfordshire in 1850 ish
There are some Frederick Charles born at that time with different surnames - maybe he was born before the marriage and was registered in mums maiden name or something.
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forgot to say that yes on the 1891 census it just says Oxfordshire as his birth place....thats why I thought uh oh oxfordshire is a huge place haha I thought i'd never find him!
If you could find anything else that would help loads :):):)
Thank you so much to you both!!
oooo so ummm thats confusing lizdb :S maybe he was Cairus then...very confused now haha...
Charlotte
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1861 has a possible
Rg9 907 103 2
This is a 13 yr old Frederick Carins (and yes, the image does look like that) as an apprentice in Witney, altohugh he says he was born West Rivington,Glos.
actually thinking about it, this is unlikely 'cos he is a shoemakers apprentice and your guy is a gamekeeper.....
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haha oh dear...although....after becoming a gamekeeper he became a coal miner..so anything is possible haha
I'll have a look at it...it's weird that it's Whitby though...bit of a coincidence, birth place is confussing!!
what do you think??
Charlotte
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ooooooooo i think i have found him on the 1871 census at 23!!!!!!!
I think your 1861 census is right!!!
Frederick Carins.....born: glous!!! wife Emma!! son george Frederick Carins....(which is right)
His a police constable...how many jobs did he have haha!
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How did you find the 1861 census...??? I can't find it on ancestry or IGI :S
Who is he with...are his parents or any bros and sisters with him???
Many thanks!!!!
Charlotte
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1861 census will not be on the IGI
It is available on Ancestry ifyou have a subscription.
If that is th ecase you should be able to access it via the ref number I gave.
He wasnt with family - just with the people he was apprenticed to.
Sorry I didnt jot down their names - in a rush now but can look again another time if you cant access it.
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Hey lizdb
I've got subscription with Ancestry but when I type in Frederick Carins only the 1871 census comes up for me not the 1861.
How do I put the ref number into Ancestry....?
Thanks :)
Charl
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Hi,
Im sure Lizdb wont mind me answering you :)
If you go to Ancestry home page and go to year 1861 you will then be able to enter the
numbers. RG9 will already be on there so just enter other numbers in boxes ;D
Hope this helps
Sue
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Thank you for your help Jamajo ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was looking for aaaagggeesssss hahaha!
Charlotte
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Your search returned no matches :(:(:(
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Its on there i just checked under Frederick Carins ;D ;D ;D
Sue
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hi
i've just looked at it again - the couple are Moses and Jane Midwinter and their child.
I dont know why you cant get to it.
Click on 1861 census
just put in Carins and the ref No - not too much info
he is actually indexed as Fredrick not FredErick, so if you put FredErick and click exact match there wont be one. Dont tick exact match - I dont EVER)
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ah yes I see it now :) haha
Thats a good tip...I always put exact but the names change so much...!
Thanks for your help!!! :):):)