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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => England => Hampshire & IOW Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Wortle on Thursday 16 October 08 12:58 BST (UK)
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I have records for 1901 census in Plymouth for these 2 and their children.
I think I have searched the 1891 census thru free cen correctly for Plymouth (Anybody care to check?) and cant see them.
But their eldest children in 1901 ages 16 and 14, 11 were all marked as born in Aldershot. Not all records in Hampshire are available thru freecen so I am asking in anyone can find them with these approx ages in 1891 in Hampshire
Coleman Herbert 35, Eliza 26, Herbert E (6yrs), Nora Beatrice (4), Maud M(1 )
Eliza stands out from others of the name as she is marked as born in Gibraltar.
Any other information gleaned would be gratefully accepted too.
Many thanks for your help
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Hello
Will post 1891 soon
Pam
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1891 RG12/ 566 folio 26 page 48 Aldershot Hampshire
Army service Corps
Herbert Coleman age 39 Plymouth
Eliza age 28 Gibraltar
Maud Mary dau age 1 Aldershot
Eliza Anne dau age 8 Gibraltar
Herbert Ernest son age 6 Aldershot
Noral Beatrice dau age 4 Aldershot
George son age 3 Colchester
Pam
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Well thats a surprise! Just going to digest that for a minute
Many thanks Pam
Pam
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So if Herbert is 39 then he might show up as an infant in 1851 in Plymouth or 1861 as a 10 year od but I cant spot him. Can anyone find this record with his parents names. I'm guessing father might be George as his 1891 George seems missing in 1901 but there is an infant George F although there is a blot over his age I am pretty sure its not double figures which it should be by then?
Should I repost on Devon look ups?
Anybody know anything about Army Marriage records in Gibraltar as that looks a distinct possibility.
Thanks
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What do people think of an 1861, 7 year old Herbert..looks a likely candidate ?
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Hello
You may have to repost asking for a Gbraltar Marriage
1871 Rg10/2115 folio 117 page 59 Charles Plymouth Devon
2 Filwell Place
Eliza Coleman age 53 widow Charwoman Born London Middlesex
Thomas son age 29? 21? or 24? Gen Lab London Middlesex
Herbert son age 19 errand boy Plymouth
Harry son age 11 Plymouth
James son age 8 Plymouth
1861 Rg9/1437 folio 81 page 37 Charles Plymouth Devon
3 Norley Cottage
Benjamin Coleman age 48 London Surrey Soda Water Maker
Eliza wife age 45 London Surrey
Thomas son age 20 Grocers lab London Surrey
Benjamin son age 18 Gardener London Surrey
Charlotte dau age 17 servant London Surrey
Alfred son age 14 errand boy London Surrey
Edward son age 12 Plymouth Devon
Frederick son age 9 Plymouth
Herbert son age 7 Plymouth
Henry son age 3 Plymouth Harry 1871?
Could be two lodgers Pitts and Stamforth
Pam
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1871 RG10/5781 folio 136 page 12
Vessels
At Sea Royal Navy Immortalite
Frederick Coleman age 18 Abel Seaman born Plymouth Devon
1871 RG10/2115 folio 144 page 47 Charles Plymouth Devon
Edward Coleman age 2? Cook born Plymouth
Emily wife age 20 Plymouth
Edward G son age 3 months Plymouth
1871 Rg10/2116 folio 96 page 25 Charles Plymouth devon
Alfred Coleman age 25 born london lab in sugar house
Emily wife age 24 Formally laundress Plymouth
Alfred son age 3 months Plymouth
1871 RG10/ 2114 folio 67 page 17 Charles Plymouth Devon
Benjamin Coleman age 27 lab London Middlesex
Ellen wife age 27 rest born Plymouth
Adelaide E dau age 7
Rosina R dau age 5
Beatrice dau age 3
Pam
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Hi, thanks Pam.
I am pretty dure Norley cotts are Herberts parents...the reason being as a child I remember being very envious of an enormous marble collection my father had. I was told they were used as soda bottle stoppers...of course every child in plymouth would have had a few but It makes me think I am on the right track.
Pam
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1851 H0107/1878 folio 473 page 56 Charles the Martyr Plymouth Devon
5 Morley Cottages
Benjamin Coleman age 38 Mineral Water Manufacturer Bermondsey Surrey
Eliza wife age 33 Newington Surrey
Mary dau age 16 St George The Martyr Surrey
Thomas son age 10 Bermondsey Surrey
Benjamin son age 8 Bermondsey
Alfred son age 4 St george the Martyr Surrey
Charlotte dau age 6 St george the Martyr Surrey
Edward spn age 2 St Charles the Martyr Plymouth
Pam
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Thanks. cant keep up with maintaining the tree...you are finding stuff faster tha I can get it in! Good eh?
Looks very much like benjamin and ellen are ben jnr and wife.I expect I can track that somehow. I live 20 miles outside Plymouth so will marriage records etc be held et the library anybody know?
Dont seem to move far when they move house!
Where should I repost about Gibraltar?
Pam
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1841 H0107/1047/4 folio 19 page 30 St Mary Madgalen Bermondsey Briston Surrey
Benjamin Coleman age 25 all born in county
Eliza wife age 25
Mary dau age 4
Eliza dau age 2
Thomas son age 4 months
Armed Forces Resources Look up
Pam
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Hi, nice of you to look that one up I was wondering why I couldnt post a completed on it. Obviously we were posting at the same time!
Ta
pam
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Hi Wortle,
I know this is a major long shot considering this thread is years old now but i'll ask anyway. I am looking for information on the same people as you are, Herbert born in 1855 is my great great grandfather. However i have hit a brick wall with finding further information about him and his wife and their child Herbert Ernest, who is my great grandfather and moved to Ireland sometime in the early 1900's. Can you let me know if you have found anything of significance about these people or could you point me in the right direction to maybe find some info about them?
Many thanks
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Hi, well I'm about and logged in OK. I havent worked on this for years and can't remember a thing.My stuff is all archived and I had a hard drive dump my back ups so would have to start over from paper records. PPM me in about 6 weeks when I MAY be able to dig it all out from storage (house move coming up)
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Hi Wortle,
Wow that was quick. I really wasnt expecting much of a reply by putting that up. Thanks for getting back.
If its any hassle at all please dont put yourself out for me, i completely understand that your probably up to your eyes with a house move. If you get a chance at all to look stuff up that would be great. I'll give you a PPM in a few weeks and see how you are in terms of time.
Im almost 100% sure that these people are my great great grandparents and their son Herbert Ernest is my great grandfather. The reason i was looking for this stuff was because my father made mention of either Herbert or Herbert Ernest being involved in the 1916 Rising in Ireland in some fashion and judging by the ages of both men it was probably the son, but i cant get my hands on any army information regarding either man. Its very frustrating as im sure you know too well after looking at most of your posts regarding this subject on this site.
Thanks so much for getting back
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Herbert was in the army from what I recall. Cant think that he would have been involved any other way. If you have access try the army service records in the meantime?
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Will do. Thanks again.