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Title: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Monday 13 October 08 21:51 BST (UK)
Hello all.

Was wondering if anayone can help with records for a John Gibbard, who was a publican in 1841, in Warkworth, Banbury.  His wife's name was Elisabeth.  I am trying to trace them beyond the census.  A marriege record would be good, or anything!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: David Austin on Monday 08 December 08 10:06 GMT (UK)
Hi.
john & elizabeth are having a number of children, at this time he is described as Maltster & shopkeeper he was at the Hawk & Partridge until 1849 When it was demolished to make way for the railway. I am going to Banbry Library this week and will look for a mariage and let you know.
David Austin
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: David Austin on Monday 08 December 08 10:28 GMT (UK)
Me Again
John is there in 1851 Maltmaker I he think died 1852 BMD
Elizabeth is there 1861 I She think died 1862 Bmd
David Austin
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Monday 08 December 08 13:28 GMT (UK)
Hi David

Thanks for the info.  Can I ask you where you found it?
Hi.
john & elizabeth are having a number of children, at this time he is described as Maltster & shopkeeper he was at the Hawk & Partridge until 1849 When it was demolished to make way for the railway. I am going to Banbry Library this week and will look for a mariage and let you know.
David Austin

ie, how did you know about the pub?  That's fantastic...shame it was demolished...and I doubt there'll be any photos :(

It would be great if you could find the marriage for me...I don't know Elizabeth's maiden name..

Thank you so much for your help.
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Monday 08 December 08 13:45 GMT (UK)
Also, is Banbury Northamptonshire, or Oxfordshire?  On the 1841 census, they were born Banbury, Northamptonshire, but now, when I google Banbury, it comes under Oxfordshire?
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: David Austin on Monday 08 December 08 13:53 GMT (UK)
Hi
I live in Banbury and do my own research into Hitchcox's who were also publicans.
I have a book on Banbury publicans and Some Parish reg transcripts I also looked on Census,s. Our local library has transcripts for many local towns and villages.
David A H.
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: David Austin on Monday 08 December 08 13:59 GMT (UK)
Banbury is confusing. before the start of the1900,s the area east of the river Cherwell was in Northamptonshire known as Warkworth and Grimsbury. The area west of the river was banbury and Neithrop in Oxfordshire.  The Parish however covered both areas so you get the district and parish covering different areas.
David H.
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Monday 08 December 08 16:43 GMT (UK)
That makes things a lot clearer thanks!

So if you do finf a marriage, it would be great.  Thanks for all your help!
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: GeoffE on Monday 08 December 08 17:09 GMT (UK)
Our local library has transcripts for many local towns and villages.

None of this Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire nonsense though - they call it Banburyshire.

Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Monday 08 December 08 21:20 GMT (UK)
 ;D  yeah, I had got that too   :-\   shame the guys doing the census's han't ruled out the nonsense!
Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: David Austin on Tuesday 09 December 08 17:07 GMT (UK)
Hi
I found them Married in Banbury St Mary's 4 jul 1824.
John Gibbard Mrd. Elizabeth Warner..  Witness. John Edwards & Saray Gibbard.
Children James Bpt. 23 Jul1826
              Susannah Bpt. 1 Nov 1829
              Anne  Bpt. 1+ Nov 1832
              Caroline Bpt. 3 Dec 1834  died Feb1825
              Mary Ann Bpt. 5 Aug 1836  died Sept 1838 Smallpox
              George  Bpt. 3 Sep 1838
              John is described as Maltster, Shopkeeper, Grocer and Lab.
john Bpt.


Title: Re: Pre-1841, Banbury, Publican?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Tuesday 09 December 08 20:53 GMT (UK)
That's brilliant!  Thank you so much, David.

Tried looking up the pub, but found nothing on it!  Oh well, at least I have the name.  This is brilliant,  ;D ;D