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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Peterjay on Saturday 11 October 08 18:43 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
I wonder if anyone can help with this one, do you have the business directories or resources.
The enclosed picture must be one of my ancestors, it is 110 Columbia Rd E2,
the picture was taken before WW2 (i am told).
The lady in the picture is a Florence Clover nee Murphy b1906 London East, her husband was Charles Stephen Clover b1904 Bow.
I don't know if they owned it or just worked in it, but it must have belonged to someone in the clover family.
Can a census look up be done by address, any help would be most appreciated.
Many thanks,
Peter.
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At present the last census open to public inspection is the 1901 census, three years before Charles Stephen Clover was born.
Births Jun 1904
Clover Charles Stephen Poplar 1c 529
On the 1901 census this family was in Bow (registration district Poplar). The father's name was Stephen.
1901 census RG13 340 folio 145
54 Usher Road St Mary Stratford by Bow
Stephen Clover 32 Head Married Carman Bryant and Mays Canningtown London
Emily Clover 32 Wife Married Canningtown London
William Clover 10 Son Canningtown London
Bertie Clover 8 Son Bow London
Frederick Clover 6 Son Bow London
Herbert Clover 4 Son Bow London
Lily V Clover 18 months Daughter Bow London
but you would really need Charles Stephen's birth certificate to confirm whether this is his family. There were other Clover families in Bromley.
According to Google maps the Columbia Road which still exists in the East End is in Shoreditch.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4HPEA_en-GBGB236GB236&tab=wl
You can do address lookups for the 1901 census on the official 1901 census website
http://www.1901censusonline.com/
an image search on Google images brings up plenty of pictures of Columbia Road
http://images.google.co.uk/imghp?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4HPEA_en-GBGB236GB236&tab=wi
You can access some historical directories online here, but only up to the 1910s
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp
Regards
Valda
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Hello Valda,
Thank you kindly for your reply and info.
Kind regards,
Peter.
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Hello Peter, In 1901 110 Coumbia Road was a coffee House and was run by a George Elledge who lived and worked there with his family.
RG13/282/102
Jennifer
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Hello Jennifer,
Thank you kindly for the information, it's a start for me and something to go on, may have been owned by the Clover's a little later late 30s say.
Thank again, best wishes.
Peter.
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Hello all,
Would anyone know if kelly's directories would have the information, we would like to see if the shop was in the Clover family.
The lady in the pic is Florence Clover nee Murphy, and her husband was Charles Stephen Clover, they both worked in the shop.
Trying to ascertain who owned it the circa would be before the war around 1937-8, does anyone have directories.
Kind regards,
Peter.
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I can't download the picture, am I doing something wrong?
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Hi Tsu,
I cannot either! and cannot upload again! strange.
Will try and create a new posting.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Cannot see the photo, so not sure if this is any help, but in 1949 there was a Clover Furnishing Company at 9 Mansford Street, E2. Could they have moved due to the war?
Best wishes, haliared.
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Peter
110 Columbia Road was occupied by Herbert Clover from 1923 (possibly 1921) to 1940, according to London directories. He took over from Robert Lackford and was succeeded by James Kensit.
Does that help?
Mean_genie
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Hello Mean_genie,
Thank you so much for that information, it looks very positive indeed.
I have HERBERT STEPHEN CLOVER b1897 Bow which would make him about age 26 in 1923.
He also had a son HERBERT K J CLOVER b1922 Bethnal Green, so this seems to be pretty good, all in the area.
Thank you once again for your response, and interest shown.
Best wishes,
Peter.
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Hi haliared,
Thank you kindly for the info you posted, it will come in handy.
Kind regards,
Peter.
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Mean_genie
Would you mind looking up when James Kensit was a shop holder here please? This is probably James Kensit, father or grandfather of Patsy Kensit ( I can't seem to find any other James Kensit's born around that time, and they loved in Haggeston). They are in my tree and I would like to find out some more information please. It would be good to find out what sort of shop he had.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/past-stories/patsy-how-we-did-it_1.shtml
thanks
Julie Rourke