RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: gillbill on Monday 31 January 05 21:17 GMT (UK)

Title: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: gillbill on Monday 31 January 05 21:17 GMT (UK)

I am trying to sort out this HODGSON family from little info
Christopher Hodgson b. c1817 Kirby Stephens, Westmorland
Mary ?? wife b. c1843 Bothel, Cumberland
Mary seems much younger & I wonder if she is a second wife?

The children:-  Christopher born Salford, Lancs c1862
Mary born Bothel c1872....her mothers birth place & 10 years younger
Ada born New Mostyn outside Manchester
Ernest also born New Mostyn      "

Bothel has no church & comes under Torpenhow but I found no
marriage for Christopher & Mary.

Please could somebody see if they can find any of them on a census in
1841, 51 & 61 Probably Salford.

If anybody has the 1871 census for New Mostyn a look up please.

gillbill

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: Sisterjane on Monday 31 January 05 21:50 GMT (UK)

here they are in 1871

Source information:    RG10/4016
Registration district:    Salford 
Sub-registration district:    Greengate 
ED, institution, or vessel:    2 
Folio:    41 
------------------------

Betty Hodgson 46  Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Sister  Salford  Lancashire   
Christopher Hodgson 54  Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Head  Salford  Lancashire   
Christopher Hodgson 11  Salford, Lancashire, England Son  Salford  Lancashire   
Mary Hodgson 28  Borhel, Cumberland, England Wife  Salford  Lancashire   
William Hodgson 20  Salford, Lancashire, England Son  Salford  Lancashire 
------------------------------
Address is Banks Rd

Joe

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: skb on Tuesday 01 February 05 18:20 GMT (UK)

Here is Christopher senior in 1851

HO107/2223 p25 sched 97          48 Garden Lane

Christopher HODGSON,head,m,34,Warehouseman Greycloth and Yarn,Westmoreland Kirby Stephen
Mary                           ,wife,m,30,Provision Dealer,Westmoreland Kirby Stephen
Betsy                          ,dau,10,Lancashire Salford
Ann                             ,dau,8,Lancashire Salford
William                        ,son,9m,Lancashire Salford
John REED,lodger,u,28,Blacksmith J'yman,Westmoreland Dufton
Jackson WILKINSON,lodger,u,24,Clerk Manch Post Office,Westmoreland Brough

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: skb on Tuesday 01 February 05 18:46 GMT (UK)

And here he is in 1861 (Sorry, the writing is a bit difficult on this one)

RG9/2920/37 sched 61         20 Rodney Street,Salford

Christopher HODGSON,head,m,44,Machinist employing 3 men (or 31 something else) , Westmoreland Kirby Stephen
Mary                            ,wife,40,Westmoreland Ros Ridding?
Betsey                         ,dau,19,Spool Winder,Lancashire Salford
Ann                              ,dau,18,Spool Winder,Lancashire Salford
William                         ,son,10,Scholar,Lancashire Salford
Christopher                  ,son,1,Lancashire Salford
Edward McGASKILL?,Visitor,3,Lancashire Blackley? (obviously an independent little chap)

Should have said - the 1851 entry was Salford, too

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: gillbill on Tuesday 01 February 05 22:22 GMT (UK)

Thanks Joe & SKB for your info.

Put with the 1881 I get more puzzled!!!

gillbill

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: skb on Wednesday 02 February 05 13:57 GMT (UK)

Did he marry the 2nd Mary in New Moston?
If he was a reasonably well-to-do businessman (employing 31 somethings), perhaps the family split their time between Manchester and Westmorland.

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: mike.h on Thursday 05 August 10 00:24 BST (UK)

Bit late replying to this but if you are still interested:

Census, 1871   (Microfilm MF1613)
8 Bank Place, Salford (Greengate)
•Christopher Hodgson,   Head   Marr   54   Machinist Master   Westmorland, Kirby Stephen
•Mary Hodgson      Wife   Marr   28            Cumberland, Bothel
•Betty Hodgson      Sister   Un   46   House Servant   Westmorland, Kirby Stephen
•William Hodgson   Son      20   Machinist Foreman   Lancs, Salford
•Christopher Hodgson   Son      11   Scholar      Lancs, Salford

Census, 1881   (transcript, Ancestry.co.uk)
Rickett Street, New Moston
•Christopher Hodgson,   Head   Marr   64   Machinist      Westmorland, Kirby Stephen
•Mary Hodgson      Wife   Marr   38            Cumberland, Bothel
•Betty Hodgson      Sister   Un   56   Domestic Servant   Westmorland, Kirby Stephen
•Christopher Hodgson   Son      21   Commercial Clerk Fire And Life
                              Lancs, Salford
•Mary Hodgson      Dtr      9   Scholar      Cumberland, Bothel
•Ada Hodgson      Dtr      4            Lancashire, Moston
•Ernest Hodgson      Son      1            Lancashire, Moston

Census, 1891   (Ancestry.co.uk)
Gloucester Road, 3 Victoria ?, Urmston
•Christopher Hodgson,   Head   Marr   75   Weighing Machinist   Westmorland, Kirby Stephen
•Mary Hodgson      Wife   Marr   45(48?)         Cumberland, Bothel
•Christopher Hodgson   Son   S   31   Insurance Agent   Lancashire, Salford
•Mary Hodgson      Dtr   S   19            Cumberland, Bothel
•Ada Hodgson      Dtr   S   14   Scholar      Lancashire, Moston
•Ernest Hodgson      Son   S   11   Scholar      Lancashire, Moston
•Elizabeth Hodgson   Sister   S   69   Domestic Servant   Westmorland, Kirby Stephen

Census, 1901 (Ancestry.co.uk)
Hawthorn Park, Netherby
•Mary Hodgson      Head   Wid   58   Living on own means   Cumberland, Bothel
•Mary Hodgson      Dtr   S   29   Living on own means   Cumberland, Bothel
•Ada Hodgson      Dtr   S   24   Living on own means   Lancashire, New Moston
•Ernest Hodgson      Son   S   21   Insurance surveyor, worker   Lancashire, New Moston

Probate Index Entry
Hodgson Christopher of Holly-lodge Wilmslow Cheshire retired-machinist died 8 November 1898. Probate London 9 February to Mary Hodgson widow. Effects £937 1s 9d.

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: gillbill on Wednesday 11 August 10 20:31 BST (UK)

Hello
Thanks very much for the census info. I am still following the family & the 1861 & 1871 confirms by

 the age of wife Mary he must have lost his first wife & married again to another Mary. Most

confusing!

gillbill

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: mike.h on Wednesday 11 August 10 20:37 BST (UK)

Yes, but a younger model.   :D

What's your interest in the family?  Are you related?

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: gillbill on Thursday 12 August 10 02:49 BST (UK)

Hi Mike,--My Grandmother's sister married Ernest Hodgson in 1905 in Wilmslow. One of their

daughters kept up with her cousin (my Uncle) after her parents death. Are you related to any of the

Hodgsons or have further info. I'd be pleased to share any info.

gillbill

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, Salford, 1871 New Mostyn
Post by: mike.h on Thursday 12 August 10 21:30 BST (UK)

Yes, William Hodgson (b1850) was my great great grandad.

I'll PM my email address.