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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: bagpipelover46 on Saturday 11 October 08 02:51 BST (UK)
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Trying to find information on my great-grandfather, Henry McAllister. Date of birth was August 31, 1885. Names of parents and siblings are unknown. He moved to Canada in the early 1900's and married Margaret Kyle Richardson (she was from Stranraer, Wigtownshire) Collingwood East, British Columbia, Canada. They had three children (Margaret, Henry and Andrew) in Canada, then moved to the United States and settled in Washington State.
I know it's not much, but it's all the information I have at this time. Any help in fiding out more about him would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Welcome to Rootschat bl46 ;D
Henry born 31st Aug 1885
Father Andrew McAllister Coal miner
Mother Jane Crawford
They married 29 Nov 1878 in Douglas
Henry's birth registered by Andrew (father)
Source: ScotlandsPeople ( http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ )
Dave
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This looks like the family living in Lesmahagow in the 1881 census.
Dwelling: Bankend
Jane Wife 21 F Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Ephreim Son 3 M Ireland
Alexander Son 1 Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland
Andrew Head 22 Iron Miner Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Andrew G.Father 68 Ireland
Sarah McALLISTER Married 27 F Mariners Wife Ireland
Thomas Son 6 Ireland
1891 and 1901 census might give more information but I don't have easy access. Perhaps someone with access to ancestry can pick this up for you.
Dave
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From marriage cert of Andrew and Jane in 1878
Andrew's parents (Andrew 19 coal miner resident Bankend, Lesmahagow)
Alexander McAllister coal miner
Mary McAllister m.s.McAllister
Jane's parents (Jane 18 Domestic Servant resident ****** Lanark)
David Crawford (Chelsea Pensioner)
Elizabeth Crawford m.s.Brown
Source: ScotlandsPeople
I have the images of the registry entries for Henry's birth and Andrew and Jane's marriage if you'd like them.
Dave
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Hi
This might help :-
1891 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Douglas
ED7/Parish Reg #641/Page 8
Blue Tower
MCALISTER
Andrew Head Marr 32 Hawker born Douglas Lanarkshire
Jane Wife Marr 31 born Douglas Lanarkshire
Alexander Son Unmarr 11 Scholar born Bankend Lesmahagow Lanarkshire
David Son Unmarr 9 Scholar born Bankend Lesmahagow Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 8 Scholar born Bankend Lesmahagow Lanarkshire
Henry Son Unmarr 5 Scholar born Douglas Lanarkshire
Ellen Dau Unmarr 3 born Douglas Lanarkshire
Mary Dau Unmarr 1 born Douglas Lanarkshire
1901 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Douglas
ED6/Parish Reg #641/Page 10
Curries Close Main Street
MCALLISTER
Andrew Head Marr 42 Blacksmith born Douglas Lanarkshire
Jane Wife Marr 41 born Douglas Lanarkshire
David Son Unmarr 20 Coal Miner born Bankend Lanarkshire
Henry Son Unmarr 16 Blacksmith born Douglas Lanarkshire
Mary Dau Unmarr 12 Scholar born Douglas Lanarkshire
Thomas Son Unmarr 9 Scholar born Douglas Lanarkshire
Jane Dau Unmarr 6 Scholar born Douglas Lanarkshire
Catherine Dau Unmarr 2 born Douglas Lanarkshire
Cheers
Karenlee
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Margaret Kyle Richardson (wife of Henry)
born 6 March 1879
Father Robert Richardson road surfaceman
Mother Margaret Melven? (difficult to read, may be Melvin)actually looks like Durcan / Dorcan on marriage - see post #9
They married 4 June 1874
Birth registered by Robert (father)
Source: SP
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Thanks Karenlee,
Funnily enough, when I saw that Margaret's father was a road surfaceman, I thought Hawker.
I'm just looking at Margaret's parent's marriage and will post further.
Dave
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Hey Dave
Trying to find an Andrew with parents Alexander and Mary pre 1881... not succeding as yet...
Will see what I can find about Jane on the Census..
Good work my friend...
Karenlee
Added... just rechecked... on 1881 says father of Andrew is Andrew...???
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1861 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Douglas
ED4/Reg # 641? Page 1
Braehead
CRAWFORD
David Head Marr 50 Chelsea Pensioner born Lothian Leith Mid
Elisabeth Wife Marr 40 Pensioner's Wife born Aberdeen Aberdeenshire
Catherine Dau Unmarr 9 Pensioner's Dau born Douglas Lanarkshire
Thomas Son Unmarr 7 Scholar born Douglas Lanarkshire
Robert Son Unmarr 5 Pensioner's Son born Douglas Lanarkshire
Elisabeth Dau Unmarr 3 Pensioner's Dau born Douglas Lanarkshire
Jane Dau Unmarr 1 Pensioner's Dau born Douglas Lanarkshire
Alexander HUTCHISON Lodger Unmarr 38 Ag Lab born Douglas Lanarkshire
Alexander MCLELLAN Lodger Unmarr 63 Cotton Weaver born Hamilton Lanarkshire
Cheers
Karenlee
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from marriage of Robert and Margaret 1874
usual residence of both High Street, Linlithgow
Robert's parents (Robert 22 slater journeyman)
Robert Richardson joiner journeyman deceased
Sarah Richardson m.s. Turnbull
Margaret's parents (Margaret 22 domestic servant)
James Durcan (mason's labourer deceased)
Catherine Durcan m.s.Mullin
Source: SP
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This is the most likely looking Jane in 1871
1871 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Bothwell
ED14/Reg # 625/2/Page 14
Boness Road
CRAWFORD
Andrew Head Marr 22 born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Isabella Wife Marr 21 born Monkland Lanarkshire
Isabella Dau Unmarr 1 born Bothwell Lanarkshire
Jane Visitor Unmarr 13 Dressmaker born Glasgow Lanarkshire
Karenlee
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Well, that's me done for tonight (4.35am - couldn't sleep!)
I'm off to kip to try again.
I'll leave you to it Karenlee, sorry.
Pity we couldn't help much bl46. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Dave
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1851 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Douglas
ED2/Reg#641/Page 10
Braehead
CRAWFORD
David Head Marr 40 Chelsea Pensioner Weaver Of Cotton born Leith Midlothian
Elisabeth Wife Marr 23 born Aberdeen Aberdeenshire
Karenlee
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Hey Dave
Trying to find an Andrew with parents Alexander and Mary pre 1881... not succeding as yet...
Will see what I can find about Jane on the Census..
Good work my friend...
Karenlee
Added... just rechecked... on 1881 says father of Andrew is Andrew...???
Just logged on as I forgot to respond to this comment.
Andrew 68 from Ireland is described as g.father on the doc I read.
So, the line would be
Henry b1885
Andrew bc 1859
Alexander b? say, 1836ish
Andrew bc 1813
I'm away this time.
Dave
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Oh, you are so clever Dave... I missed that totally... makes sense now.... DUH... ;D
Karenlee
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This is quite useful and informative...
The marriage of David CRAWFORD and Elizabeth BROWN, as on SP -
David CRAWFORD, Corporal in the 93rd Highlanders, at present in Aberdeen, was on the 4th day of May 1848 married at Aberdeen to Elizabeth BROWN, there, relict of the deceased William NEWLANDS, Ships Carpenter, in Aberdeen, by the Rev John Murray, Minister of the Free North Church Aberdeen. Witnesses were John PROVAN Private in the 93rd Highlandersn and John KEITH, Seaman, both in Aberdeen
So Elizabeth was on her second marriage... BROWN being her maiden name, her first married name being NEWLANDS.
Karenlee
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This might be Andrew MCALLISTER's parents....
1871 Census Scotland Lanarkshire Lesmahagow
ED9/Reg # 649/ Page 19
Bankend Works or Brockley
MCALLISTER
Alexander Head Marr 36 Miner born Ireland
Mary Wife Marr 36 born Ireland
Henry Son Unmarr 9 Scholar born Ireland
Mary Dau Unmarr 5 Scholar born Lesmahagow Lanarkshire
Alexander Son Unmarr 1 born Lesmahagow Lanarkshire
Not sure where Andrew got to though, will keep looking for him on this census.
Karenlee
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1881 Census Scotland Wigtownshire Kirkcolm
ED7/Reg#887/Page 6
Cottage Portabella Road
RICHARDSON
Robert Head Marr 35 Road Surfaceman born Ireland
Margaret Wife Marr 30 born Portpatrick Wigtownshire
Isabella Dau Unmarr 7 born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Margaret Kyle Dau Unmarr 2 born Kirkcolm Wigtownshire
1891 Census Scotland Wigtownshire Leswalt
ED8/Reg#891/Page 5
Low Creachmore Cottage
RICHARDSON
Robert Head Marr 44 General Labourer born Ireland
Margaret Wife Marr 40 General Labourer's Wife born Portpatrick Wigtownshire
Isabella Dau Unmarr 17 General Labourer's Dau born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Margaret Dau Unmarr 12 Scholar born Kirkcolm Wigtownshire
John Son Unmarr 9 Scholar born Kirkcolm Wigtownshire
Lizzie Dau Unmarr 6 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Robert Son Unmarr 4 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Georgina Dau Unmarr 1 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
1901 Census Scotland Wigtownshire Leswalt
ED9/Reg# 899/ Page 12
7 Scheuchan Street
RICHARDSON
Robert Head Marr 54 Ordinary Agricultural Labourer born Ireland
Margaret Wife Marr 50 born Port Patrick Wigtownshire
Isabella Dau Unmarr 27 Dressmaker born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 17 General Servant Domestic born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Robert Son Unmarr 14 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Georgina Dau Unmarr 11 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Mary Jessie Dau Unmarr 9 Scholar born Leswalt Wigtownshire
Margaret MCUBBIN Boarder Wid 85 Annuitant born Port Patrick
Karenlee
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Thought I had Robert pre 1881 but was wrong, so deleted the information
Sorry
Karenlee
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According to SP, Elizabeth BROWN, who first married William NEWLANDS, then David CRAWFORD, was the daughter of Robert BROWN,
She married first in 1846 ... so she should be on the 1841 Census as BROWN ....
Karenlee
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Getting a bit lost with Robert RICHARDSON sorry... trying to sort him out and not succeeding
Karenlee
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daval57 and karenlee,
Wow, thanks for the fast responses and all the info! This is like Christmas! I've never had any luck getting this information before. I am so glad I found this web site last night. You are both super, thank you so much.
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bl46,
Now that you have made 3 posts on the site, you can send me (or anyone else on the site) a PM (personal message).
Click on my name to the left of my posts. That'll take you to my profile. You can then scroll down and click on the link that says "send this RootsChatter a personal message".
If you send me your email address, I'll let you have a copy of the documents I found.
RC does not advise or allow email addresses to be posted on the main boards for security / anti-spam.
Dave
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Happy to have been able to help get you started... hope that from here on it all comes together for you.
Ditto Dave's suggestion about the PM, and I can send the documents that I found on to you.
Still confused about Robert RICHARDSON, it seems that there are 2 possibles, might need some further research on that one.
Cheers
Karenlee
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photo of Henry McAllister & Margaret Kyle (Richardson) McAllister
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Thought I would share this incase anyone else is interested in this line.
4. HENRY4 MCALLISTER (ANDREW3, ALEXANDER2, ANDREW1) was born August 31, 1885 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and died February 1950 in Seattle, King County, Washington, USA. He married MARGARET KYLE RICHARDSON October 18, 1912 in Collingwood East, British Columbia, Canada1, daughter of ROBERT RICHARDSON and MARGARET DURCAN. She was born March 06, 1879 in Kirkcolm, Wigtownshire, Scotland, and died April 10, 1971 in Seattle, King County, Washington, USA.
More About HENRY MCALLISTER:
Burial: February 17, 1950, Washelli Cemetery, Seattle, King County, Washington, USA
More About MARGARET KYLE RICHARDSON:
Burial: April 13, 1971, Washelli Cemetery, Seattle, King County, Washington, USA
Children of HENRY MCALLISTER and MARGARET RICHARDSON are:
5. i. MARGARET5 MCALLISTER, b. PRIVATE - Still living.
6. ii. HENRY MCALLISTER, b. June 02, 1915, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; d. April 20, 2003, Seattle, King County, Washington, USA.
7. iii. ANDREW ROBERT MCALLISTER, b. October 18, 1918, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; d. September 26, 1962, Seattle, King County, Washington, USA.
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Related post......
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04ne/
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Hi Karen, thanks so much for the information on the Richardson line. Now I know where the Kyle comes in as a family name. I was told that it was a family name, my Mother's middle name is Kyle.
When I was very small I went with my grandparents, Henry & Della McAllister, to Canada to visit my great-great Aunt Jean. She was the sister of great Grandma McAllister (Margaret Richardson). I will have to ask my Mother if she knows if this was the Georgina on your list of names. By any chance to you know what happened to the rest of the siblings? Which one is your family line?
Thanks again. Getting all this information from the wonderful people on here is super!
Tori
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Talked to my Mother tonight, and she said that Aunt Jean was indeed Georgina. She said that Aunt Jean married later in life, her husband's name was Bill Bartie and that they lived in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
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Hey Tori
I am no relation whatsoever to this line, just helping out...... ;D ;D
Great to hear the the mystery the Kyle name and the identity of Georgina have both been solved.
If you want to give me a list of names that you would like followed up, I would be happy to try and track them down. My husband is in the UK on business, so I need something to occupy myself after the kids are gone to bed tonight.... and this is just the thing
Heading out now for an hour or two... my youngest has her end of year Piano Soiree.... her teacher does this little concert thingy at her house and has all her students play a piece so that the parents can applaude and congratulate... etc etc....
See you later
Karenlee