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Title: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Friday 10 October 08 17:38 BST (UK)

I have DAVID AYLING, born 1750 at Alton, died 1828 at Alton, wed ELIZABETH WINKWORTH, 1746 - 1828, at

Alton in 1770.

BUT, I have nothing on David's parents. As I have Aylings in both my paternal and maternal lines, I am quite keen

to find out if they have common ancestors.

So, if I could ask someone to please do a look-up for me, they could help resolve this question.

I think this is the point at which my Aunt abandoned the project because she feared she might have uncovered a

skeleton or two. However, I would like to know the truth.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 10 October 08 17:44 BST (UK)
Okey-dokey. For starters,

Why do you think that he was b Alton when there is no baptismal record?
Does the age-at-death correspond with that year of birth?
What names witnessed the 1770 marriage?

Ah, it's submitted I see. Did you find an entry in the originals?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500027980047&lds=1

do think that you arrived there from this record? (1774 Baptism)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500026262251&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles

Pauline
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Friday 10 October 08 19:32 BST (UK)

No, neither, The details I have are from my Aunts papers, unfortunately she is no longer alive so I cannot quizz her
about it.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 10 October 08 19:44 BST (UK)
The sensible thing to do would be to check each of her sources.
If she hasn't given a source, the you are going to have to go looking for one.

Otherwise you are going to be creating a work of fiction.

Pauline
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Friday 10 October 08 20:03 BST (UK)

Very well, thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Friday 10 October 08 21:23 BST (UK)

My late Aunt was not interested in computers, would not have used one for her genealogy.

She would never have trusted third-party transcripts.

I understand that she gained her information by purchasing photofiche of the original

Parish Registers from the various District Archives. Unfortunately, these were all lost during

her house clearance. Having said that, I have no reason to think she was a liar.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: janeh on Wednesday 15 October 08 04:05 BST (UK)
You asked about the marriage of David Ayling in Alton. Although he and Elizabeth were said to both be ‘of this parish’ in 1770, David does not seem to have been baptised there. Presumably he was just working there at that time. The Petersfield connection could be because of the settlement certificate but that shows that the family were from Alton and they do not seem to have stayed there long. Yours Jane

1770   24 Sep., David Ayling married Elizabeth Winkworth at Alton by banns. Both were said to be ‘of this parish’. Witnesses were Thomas and Ann Swain.

1771   probable baptism of Sarah Ayling, daughter of David and Elizabeth but there are lots of missing entries from the Alton registers at this time.
1774   James Ayling, son of David and Elizabeth, baptised at Alton. (Reg)

1777   8 Apr., Jesse Ayling buried at Petersfield.

1779   settlement certificate among the Petersfield Parish records for David Ailing, turner, his wife Elizabeth and children Sarah aged 8 and Jane [sic] aged 5 of Alton. (108M70/PO12) Presumably James was misheard as Jane.

1782   11 Oct., George, son of David and Elizabeth Ayling, baptised at Alton. (Reg) The family had returned (or had been returned) to Alton.

Son James married and their first children baptised were:-
1798   Martha
1800   Mary
1802   George
1804   Sarah
1805   Isaac
1809   James   was he called Jesse later?
1811   John
Son George married and their first children baptised were:-
1808   William
1810   George
Daughter Sarah may have married in 1790 - William Butler.

1828   24 Jan., Elizabeth Ayling buried in Alton, aged 82.
1828   12 Aug., Daviid Ayling buried in Alton. Said to be aged 78.
[This suggests that he was born in 1750 but that would have made him underage when he married and that does not appear to have been the case so he was probably born pre-1750.]

1828   6 June, Mary Ayling buried aged 45
1829   1 Mar., Mary Ayling buried aged 53.
1831   4 July, George buried aged 48.
1832   1 Oct., William Ayling buried aged 26.

1881   Census, High Street, Berkhampstead
Jesse Ayling   73   retired tradesman (tin)   born   Alton
Jemima “   70            “   Farnham   
No Jesse appears to have been baptised c1808 in Alton but he could have been christened James?
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Wednesday 15 October 08 10:35 BST (UK)

Thanks Janeh, I'm so glad I'm not 'creating a work of fiction'.

Now I have to try and discover David's parents.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Bazza1966 on Sunday 16 November 08 17:42 GMT (UK)
I too and derived from Ayling stock (Jesse had a brother called Joseph - born Alton 1819 or 1820 - who is my great-great-great-grandfather) and this information has allowed me to go back two further generations to David and Elizabeth. Many thanks and keep posting your discoveries!
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Tim Ayling on Monday 16 March 09 13:08 GMT (UK)
I have been driving myself insane trying to find a birth record for my great-great grandfather Jesse Ayling (Jesse is my middle name, so it continues to be handed down :) ) for some time now, so I was really interested, Jane, to see your theory that he may have been baptised James. Have you been able to find any material to back this up? I have Jesse's death certificate from 1882, which gives his age as 77, just to confuse matters further. I was really pleased to see you associate him with James Ayling and Mary Issacs, as a distant relative of mine in the US found Jesse on the 1851 census when he had a nephew living with him, which she used to trace Jesse's brother's parentage, which seemed to be James and Mary. It's so frustrating that no records exists, as I want to follow this line more than any other.
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: Chainsaw on Sunday 30 September 12 12:48 BST (UK)
It's so good to hear that this family is still thriving. My mother passed away this year, and her only surviving male sibling does have children, so the story continues.
But I would like to push the curtain back on earlier generations if at all possible. Does any members of the Ayling clan have more information ??
Title: Re: Alton, Hampshire.
Post by: ayling1 on Monday 24 October 16 04:08 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=563224.new;topicseen#new