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Hy , i recently joined & would like some help on researching one of my Ancestors ,William Henry Sephton or Sefton , born 1864 , i have both his children birth & marriage certificates ,mothers name is annie brennan but i cannot find any entry for them in any census , hope some kind person can help so i can stop banging my head on a brick wall ;D ellen
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Hello Ellen :)
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
We'll do our best to help ;D
Do you have any idea where he might have been born ? Where and when were his children born - their names? Was Annie their mother or his mother ?
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Hi Ellen
Welcome to Rootschat :D
Post everything you already know and we will see what we can do.
Jan ;)
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Looking again at your post - do you have William and Annie's marriage certificate?
That will have their father's names ;D
As Jan says - as much as you know, please - including dates ;D
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i have both his children birth & marriage certificates ;D ellen
Do you mean i have both his children's birth & marriage certificates ?
Stan
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yes ,william henry's children are, my grandfather, william henry sephton, b 16/4/1886 lived at 17 railway rd walton when born,mothers named as annie brennan, annie septon b 1888 7 birchfield rd walton when born, mother annie brennan,william henry married ellen kelly 6/8/1906 at the parish church L/pool ,annie wed william owens 8/8/1909 at st ambrose church everton :)it is my great grandfather the 1st william henry sephton & annie brennan i cannot find a marriage certificate or find them on any census , this is what is holding me up on my family tree ,thank you for any help ,ellen
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Hello Ellen :)
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
We'll do our best to help ;D
Do you have any idea where he might have been born ? Where and when were his children born - their names? Was Annie their mother or his mother ?
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i cannot find a marriage...have looked through each quarter from 1884 Q2 - 1886 Q3.
Do you think that they may have married in Ireland ?
Dj
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Thank you for your help, i really could not say, but what baffles me is ,when both their children were born they lived in liverpool & when their children married they lived in liverpool :(
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Hello Ellen :)
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
We'll do our best to help ;D
Do you have any idea where he might have been born ? Where and when were his children born - their names? Was Annie their mother or his mother ?
Moderator comment: topic unlocked - assume this was a slip of the finger?
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oh good Nelsbels was wondering how to unlock it !! :)....
and i didn't not know ::) shame on me
Debz
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Well, either of you could have used the Report to Moderator button, or PMed one of your friendly local Moderators - that's usually best!
Happy to help!
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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OK, what :
names witnessed each child's marriage?
what was the father's occupation at the birth and marriage of each child?
What address(es) did these kids marry from?
Pauline
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This might be William Sephton (bn 1864) on the 1871 census:
Rice? Lane, Walton
Henry Sephton H Mar 35 Carter Bn Walton, Lancs
Robina? W 31 " "
Wm Henry S 7 " "
Richard S 5 " "
Ann Jane D 13 " "
Edward John S 1 " "
Ann Jane Guy Lodger 60 Liverpool, Lancs
John Guy lodger son 18 " "
RG10, Piece 3831, Folio 57, PAge 15
I realise this might be a bit of a leap at the moment, but might be worth keeping to one side as a possibility!
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Looks good for 1881 too.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=9151078
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And Robina is on the 1891 aswell - RG12, piece 2977, Folio 123, PAge 42
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Hi folks....
just to say that Ellen accidently locked this for awhile yesterday and so i sent my findings via PM
it seems that Robina and henry are very possibly the great grand parents of W H Sephton b 1886 ... they also lived in the same road as some of Ellen's other ancestors.
i found the children of W H and Annie in 1901 - Annie was in an Indusrial Scool as a boarder and William was lodging with his Uncle .
I have given Ellen 1861 info too. it seems that Robina was born in Scotland but it has been put as lancs in 1871 .
just thought i would clarify save duplicating :).
Best wishes
Debz
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I have given Ellen 1861 info too. it seems that Robina was born in Scotland but it has been put as lancs in 1871 .....from my previous post...
;D
well one lives and learns...i never knew ::) that there was a Scotland in Lancs !!!!
:-[
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RE Robina...Place of birth ....it says Dumfries Scotland on 1 census and Lancs on another ????
Debz
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Thanks Debz,i have been very busy myself & have found out that Robina 1 was born in scotland 1939 ,her son richard b1866 also had a daughter robina b 1889 , also i have found in the 1891 robina 1 living at 45 ismay st. walton on the hill , with 2 sons Edward age 14 & john age 12,they live next door to william & mary trawler who also have a daughter named robina :-\ so i am going to carry on to see if these people are related to robina 1 , i want to thank everone for their help with my search , you have all been so helpful , i am so grateful to you all for your kindness & time , especially you debz , still cannot find any information on my great grandad or annie , i am going to send for birth certificate for william henry who i am sure was born 1864 to robina & henry, keep your fingers crossed , ps can you tell me where i can find or buy the street maps . ellen
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HI Ellen, do keep in touch and give me updates
I'm sure you are on the right track ;D
i will do my best to send you 1 or 2 maps....i have to cheat a bit and then copy and crop , the hardest bit is finding the correct place on the old maps.
they can be bought on line but you may try a library before spending but i'll do my best today.
Rice lane and Birchfield road are still to be seen on Google. Railway Road is no longer but as you can gather they lived by Walton station .
Debz