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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: BTee on Monday 06 October 08 15:03 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have any history on The Royal Oak public house , Pant Y Gof , Halkyn,
between 1901 and when it apparently closed in 1938 ??
i.e. who lived there , publicans etc .
Thanks
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Hi BTee
Unfortunately the trade directories I have covering Halkyn specifically only go up to 1895 where a William Salisbury is listed for the Royal Oak. I've checked Holywell ones that go to 1936 but there is no mention of the Royal Oak in Halkyn - just one in Greenfield Road Holywell where a GH Jones is listed.
Heather
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Hi there,
It may be worth your while to contact Mold and District Civic Society. They are a historical society for the area. One of their members, David Rowe, is currently producing details of old pubs in the area, it may not run to Halkyn but it's worth a try.
They are at the Town Hall, Earl Road, Mold and a contact phone number is 01352741422.
Also have a look at www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast (http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast)
Good luck with your research.
:)
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Thanks for the help
Im looking for my wife's grand mother /great grandparents.
Her grandmother was a Dora Jones (maiden name)
I have her and her parents Robert Jones and Anne Jones at Bryn Alun Rhydymwyn in 1901 , Robert at that time is listed as a Lead Miner.
The family story is that Robert and Anne then had a Pub near to and a bit lower than the Blue Bell Pub in Halkyn.
I believe this to be the Royal Oak ( now a private house called the Old Royal Oak, just across the road from the Blue Bell).
We believe that Robert died whilst they had the Pub - prior to Dora marrying in 1921, Anne then remarried and the story is that her new husband did not want to keep the pub.
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Thanks for the help
Im looking for my wife's grand mother /great grandparents.
Her grandmother was a Dora Jones (maiden name)
I have her and her parents Robert Jones and Anne Jones at Bryn Alun Rhydymwyn in 1901 , Robert at that time is listed as a Lead Miner.
The family story is that Robert and Anne then had a Pub near to and a bit lower than the Blue Bell Pub in Halkyn.
I believe this to be the Royal Oak ( now a private house called the Old Royal Oak, just across the road from the Blue Bell).
We believe that Robert died whilst they had the Pub - prior to Dora marrying in 1921, Anne then remarried and the story is that her new husband did not want to keep the pub.
Story so far - we have Robert Jones listed as licensee of the Royal Oak , Pant Y Go , Halkyn , in the Inns register of 1903 but alas have also found his burial in Rhydymwyn in 1904
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Hello, it's been almost a year since you were on this site enquiring about the Royal Oak Inn. I've only just registered today so hopefully this information will reach you.
Bryn Ellis helped me immensely a few years ago providing information on my step-grandmother, Megan Evans, who grew up in the area before marrying my grandfather and moving to Flint. The information Bryn provided stated that Megan's father, John Ellis Evans, took over the tenancy of the Royal Oak in 1912 and then the licence was transferred to Megan's mother, Margaret Evans, in 1924. As you know, the Royal Oak was closed in 1938.
Hope this helps!
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/Hi, I have just registered today and the information here is rather muddled.
The licence was held by John Ellis Evans in 1912 but he was NOT the father of Megan Evans - he was her uncle. Megan Evans was the daughter of Anne Evans (nee Jones) and William Evans. Megan Evans went to live with John Ellis Evans and Margaret Evans aged 6 when her mother died in 1899 giving birth to a son John Evans. There was also another sister, Nellie Evans who was my grandmother. My mother says she was sent to stay at the Royal Oak with her Aunty Maggie after she contracted TB living in Liverpool. Hope this puts the record straight and I would love to hear from you as I have been struggling to find connections on the Evans/Jones side of my family.
Look forward to hearing from you! ]
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Hi,
Got that slightly wrong - Megan went to live with her Aunt Elizabeth Jones not Margaret as I said before.
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I have now checked the 1911 census and this confirms what my mother said.
Talked to her about your family and she remembers your grandfather?? was a butcher in Flint??
Lesley
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Hi, Lesley ... thanks for this great information.
Yes, my grandfather was a butcher in Flint - William Evans Rhodes. On the death of his wife, Megan went to live in his house as his housekeeper to help in looking after my father, Arthur William. My grandfather and Megan eventually married.
Where are you located? I came to Canada with my family in 1967 and still reside in Calgary. We also have a home in Phoenix where we hope to retire to some day. We're here in Phoenix now but leave this weekend to return to Calgary - dread the thought of going back to the snow and cold!
Thanks, again.
Jan
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Hiya I have actually got a photo of the royal oak in 1870 and i also have some information about the royal oak and a dentistry advertisement in 1904 that took place in the royal oak halkyn. I also no that there was a parade in halkyn that started at the crown inn then a pub now crown cottages and it ended with a dinner at the royal oak halkyn.I do have a advertisement, at the top it says lot 37 maybe it went up for auction but i dont no the tennant is Mrs.Margaret Evans who has been in occupation about 17 years and the net annual rental is £10 please right back.
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Hi, Shaun ... thanks for replying to my post. I'd love to see a photo of the Royal Oak in 1870 - actually, I'd love to see anything you have about my step-grandmother's family (Megan Evans and her mother, Margaret Evans). How are you connected? Looking forward to hearing from you. Jan
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Hi Shaun,
Thanks for getting in touch. I would also be interested in seeing anything you may have on my relatives as well
Lesley
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Hi, Lesley ... you've been working so hard on the family tree and have done a great job! Hope all is well. Jan
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Hiya guys i em actually am not related but my aunty lives in the crown inn and all my family lives up in halkyn or rhosesmor and i just love researching it how about you guys leave me your emails and I will send you the picture. x
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Mine is (*) Thanks!
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Hiya guys sorry i havent been intouch for a while but i managed to forget me password and had to reset it all and I have lost your emails so please resend them if you still want the pic and i also have found a list of tennants who have run the royal oak up until the 8th of april 1938 when it shut from being in private ownership by Ind Coop here is a list of all the tennants
Date Licensee/ Tenant
1839 Tithe map Charles Higginson
1850 Joseph & Anne Hooson
1856 Anne Hooson
1861 Census William and Jeremiah Jones
1868 William Jones
1871 Census Elizabeth & Anne Price
1881 Census Elizabeth & Anne Price
1892 William Salisbury
1897 Ann Salisbury
1901 Robert Jones
1904 Ann Jones
1912 John Elias Evans
1924 Margret Evans
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Hi Shaun ... My email address is (*)
Thanks for all the other info1
Jan
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Hi,
I know this post is quite old. But in the hood it reaches someone in the group. I'm not related to any of the people you are looking at. But we are the current owners of the Old Royal Oak in Halkyn. We have alot of the old deeds and information that came with buying this old property. There was a lot more that the previous owners showed me, but they were getting divorced and most of that stuff disappeared with one or the other partners. We have dug up bottles that have been dated around 1890 when it was still a pub. They obviously did t believe in recycling as every time we dig somewhere close to the house we find glass and earthen ware.