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Title: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Friday 03 October 08 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi all.

My 3x Ggrandfather was InnKeeper at 27 High Street, St Paul, Bedford on the 1851 census & I was wondering what the name of the pub would have been then & if still standing, now.

Any help would be gratefully received!

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Woody32 on Friday 03 October 08 20:49 BST (UK)
Have you got a name for your grandfather?

There are quite a few pubs on the 1841 census but it doesnt show the street numbers..he may have been there in 1841 as well.
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Friday 03 October 08 20:55 BST (UK)
Hi Woody

He wasn't there in 1841, he had a shop in St.Pancras.

He was John Jenks aged 57 in 1851, born Potterspury, Northampton (spelt potters perry for the 1851 census) I don't have a record for him in 1861.

Thank you.
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: sem73 on Friday 03 October 08 21:04 BST (UK)
Hi there

Have a look at http://www.historicaldirectories.org

The 1854 Post Office directory has him listed....

Sarah :)

Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Woody32 on Friday 03 October 08 21:05 BST (UK)
Just beat me Sem :)
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Friday 03 October 08 21:07 BST (UK)
Oh wow!

Thank you both very much for the info from one happy bunny :)
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Woody32 on Friday 03 October 08 21:11 BST (UK)
It was actually Number 55 High Street..because he is still there in the 1861 Census as a boarder.

Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Friday 03 October 08 21:15 BST (UK)
Excellent.

Thanks very much Woody.

Hope to eventually get there & treat myself to a swift 1....or 2!
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Woody32 on Friday 03 October 08 21:26 BST (UK)
This could be what it is now ....

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/75/7512/Litten_Tree/Bedford
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Friday 03 October 08 21:33 BST (UK)
Hmmmm

well I hope it had a better rating in his day!

Thanks once again, much appreciate the input :D
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: johnP-bedford on Saturday 04 October 08 11:02 BST (UK)
1949  Kellys lists The Lion Hotel (Trust Houses Ltd) at 55 High Street - still there in 1963.
I've attached a picture of the High Street circa 1860, from Richard Wildman's Bygone Bedford which does not really show the hotel well.

At no 23, 25 & 27 is Wells of Bedford, house furnishers - which later housed Harrison - Gibsons in 1963.   

Regards John
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Saturday 04 October 08 12:43 BST (UK)
Thank you John,
Excellent photo.

I was just going to ebay to see if there was an old pics for sale. I'll keep an eye out for the book too now.

Appreciate the post :)
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Notinpastyet on Sunday 05 October 08 17:11 BST (UK)
Hi Pauly , Google old photo's of Dunstable & there are a few really good sites,I myself have really enjoyed looking at some really great old photo's of Dunstable & it's people,no need to be spending out on ebay.Cheers Nipy
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: pauly on Sunday 05 October 08 18:24 BST (UK)
Hi Nipy

Thanks for the tip.

You must excuse my geographic ignorance, but I didn't realsie the pub was in Dunstable! This is my 1st rellie I've found from the area. No wonder I didn't have much luck on ebay & elsewhere.

Do you know if the pub would have been South or North high street?

Many thanks once again.

Pauly
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Notinpastyet on Sunday 05 October 08 19:02 BST (UK)
Gosh Pauly I'm going crazy,I for some reason I though I was replying to a Dunstable thread please forgive me for raising your hopes,regards  from a silly old thing Nipy
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: Notinpastyet on Sunday 05 October 08 20:13 BST (UK)
There was a Red lion pub/hotel in Dunstable but long gone( knocked down to widen the road I think)I did see back in 1876 it was run by a John Miller,regards Nipy
Title: Re: 27 High Street, St Paul. Pub name please?
Post by: johnP-bedford on Monday 22 March 10 08:28 GMT (UK)
see...   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,440482.0.html