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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: tinker2 on Friday 03 October 08 04:40 BST (UK)
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I.m looking for information on my great grandfather Alexander Watson possibly born in or around Peterhead in 1830. May have Strachan in family somewhere.
He moved to England and lived in Hackney and died in 1904. I cannot find any leads although I had a promising one when I found an ad placed in the Buchan Observer looking for ancestors of a Tom Watson who moved to London and started (or worked for) an envelope manufacturing company in Swan Lane. My great grandfather had such a company in the same location.
I would be grateful for any help. I'm in Canada so it's difficult to do any research in person.
Thanks!
Margaret
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Hi Margaret
Welcome to RootsChat :)
Have you considered getting Alexander and Letitia Simpson's marriage cert.? This would include details on his father (name and occupation) which would make it easier for you to find him and family in the earlier censuses.
The refs. for the marriage: 1865 4th Qrt Sleaford Vol. 7a Page 863
Monica :)
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Hi Monica, thanks for your reply. I had considered getting the marriage cert. but hadn't got around to it! I have just ordered it online and maybe I will have more information to go on. I wish he had at least once put where he was from in Scotland on one of the many censuses I have found him in!
How did you know about the marriage to Letitia?
Thanks again.
Margaret
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I looked him up in the censuses ;)
Ordering the marriage is cert. is the only way really to make sure you are following through the right line. There are a number of Alexander Watson's born in his age range in Aberdeenshire. There is one main family from Logie Buchan I saw which is a possibility for him, father Thomas and mother Catherine, with some sons that I think (!) I can see in London in later years.
Let us know once you have the details from the marriage cert.
Monica :)
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Hi Monica, I've got the wedding certificate which shows that Alexander's father was indeed Thomas, occupation Farmer. Unfortunately it still doesn't give his place of birth in Scotland. I have attached the classified ad from the Buchanan newspaper in case anyone has any ideas or leads as to who placed the ad. I think I will get his death certificate and perhaps that will give his actual place of birth.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Margaret
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I looked him up in the censuses ;)
Ordering the marriage is cert. is the only way really to make sure you are following through the right line. There are a number of Alexander Watson's born in his age range in Aberdeenshire. There is one main family from Logie Buchan I saw which is a possibility for him, father Thomas and mother Catherine, with some sons that I think (!) I can see in London in later years.
Let us know once you have the details from the marriage cert.
Monica :)
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Just a suggestion,why do n't you contact the Buchan Advertiser & let them know your story?I'm sure they'd do an article in the paper!If you no longer have their contact details,let me know & I'll get them for you.Regards,
flst
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Hi Margaret
Looking at the classified entry on Buchan Advertiser, the person who placed it looks to be searching for ancestors/family of a Thomas Watson son of Alexander (the one you are researching by the sounds of it). There is a Thomas, son, born c. 1880 showing at home with Alexander and Letitia in the 1881 census. There is also a possible marriage, going by the name of the wife showing in the classified notice:
4th Qrt 1908:
WATSON Thomas Islington Vol. 1, page 537
SELLERS Margaret Mabel Islington Vol. 1, page 537
The death cert for Alexander is unlikely to show his place of birth, not information that was included on death certificates unfortunately. Best route remains at this stage the early censuses and also following up on flst's suggestion of contacting the Buchan Advertiser for further info on who placed the story.
Monica :)
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Hi Margaret
Now back home and able to check the census indexes :)
This is the main family that I thought likely from the 1841 census, with father Thomas and mother Christian (not Catherine as I showed earlier). Christian fits better also for Alexander given the name of one of his early born daughters. Everyone below showing as born in the county:
Thomas Watson 50, farmer
Christian Watson 46
William Watson 23
Thos Watson 21
Jame Watson 19
George Watson 16
Alexander Watson 10
Charles Watson 6
John Kidd 38, millwright
Address: Greenward, Lonmay Aberdeenshire
I'm going to post below some other census entries which I think may connect to this family in 1841 - no proof, just gut feel going by the census entries.
Monica :)
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Working through with this family, I found this entry in 1851:
James Watson 28, Watch J Clock Maker, b. Logie Buchan
Elizabeth A Watson 28
Elizabeth A Watson 7
Ann K Watson 4
Margaret G Watson 2
Christian C Watson 1
Address: 14 Dee Street, Old Marchar, Aberdeenshire
Which I then wondered if the James above could be connected to this entry in Fulham London in 1891:
James Watson 68, watchmaker jeweler, b. Scotland
Helen M Cormack 33, wife, b. Scotland
Douglass I Watson 19, son, Scotland
George Watson 62, clerk, widower, brother, b. Scotland
Catherine J Wood 17, servant, b. Scotland
Monica
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Margaret
Was there any reference to Thomas Watson, father being alive or deceased on Alexander's MC? Thomas Watson looks to have died c. 1874. There are a number of references to Wills & Testaments for him on Scotlands People around this time.
Having found now Thomas Watson, farmer and wife Christian in 1851 and 1861, the younger children Charles and George show as born in Lonmay - so not sure whether the entries for a James Watson showing a Logie Buchan birth place in 1851 will connect to that 1841 family, although names and ages are similar.
Monica
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Hello Monica
It's been awhile since I have done any research on the Watson's. In the meantime I've been quite successful with the other family lines and have been in touch with lots of interesting "relatives". I don't think I thanked you and flst for all your help - I apologise and I'm doing that now!
I haven't got much further with my research on Alexander. His father Thomas, the farmer, was alive at the time of his marriage. I have got a copy of the will for the Thomas Watson, farmer, we talked about. There is no reference to his son Alexander although there are bequests to his other children. If this Alexander died I can't find a reference to it. Perhaps he was estranged from his father. Perhaps he was doing OK in England and so was left nothing.
I did consider contacting the Buchan Observer again but they have been less than helpful to me. I could never find out if my letter reached the person who was making the enquiries. It seems bizarre to me that someone would go to the trouble of placing a very specific item in the classifieds of a newspaper but do not seem to be on any ancestry site doing research.
Hope you are having a great summer and once again thanks for your help.
Regards,
Margaret
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hallo I just googled a few details from my late grandfathers death certificate which I came across. and came across you. I think we are related
How exciting
Pops was Thomas Watson, envelope manufacturer (I am sure swan lane which was bombed out in war)
he was 63yrs when he died in September 1942
he married Mabel Sellars and they lived in Tottenham London . They had two children. Alex and Margaret who is my mother.
I am one of four girls
I am Dinah and now live in France
Hope to hear from you . I have very few photos but older sister Jane who lived in Oz has a very good memory . She is 70+ I am nearly 70
Dinah
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Hi Dinah
I'm sure we're related. My grandfather (George) and your grandfather (Thomas) were brothers. I have replied to your personal message. I am attaching a copy of an ad from the Buchan Observer which seems to refer to your grandparents. The ad is in the Personal column
I have sent you my email address and look forward very much to sharing information with you.
I'm not sure that my reply to your personal message went through (I got an error message). If you do not get a reply please let me now and I will re-send.
Great to hear from you!
Regards,
Margaret
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Hi Margaret and Dinah
Margaret, if you sent Dinah the PM when she had only made one posting, she would not have been able to receive it as new members need to have made at least two postings on the main forum before they can use the PM system.
Dinah, welcome to RootsChat :)
Monica
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thanks
very new but enthused
Dinah