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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: joppo1968 on Thursday 02 October 08 10:32 BST (UK)
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My Great Grandfather, Edward Beadsworth Jopson, drowned in the Mersey River, Latrobe, Tasmania on 3 Dec 1876. His Widowed wife, Mary Ann Jopson & 4/5 of her children: Cecily Elizabeth, Alice Caroline, Edward & William James Jopson, all moved to Victoria at different times after the Father drowned.
I have a lady who I am paying to look through the PROV Inward Passengers to Victoria from Australian ports & given that it's un-indexed, so she has to go through each month & year from 1876 onwards..can anyone suggest any resources that would identify the earliest time they would have been in Victoria...like Directories or Electoral rolls etc?
So far she has found all but Edward & the Mother, Mary Ann. I am in Tassie, so I don't have access to any of Vic library resources. I know from Ancestry that Mary Ann Jopson appears earliest on the 1914 Electoral roll but I also know that it wasn't compulsory. I have also d/loaded all of their Vic death certificates to see how long they were in Tas vs Vic & so far, from what we've found...what's on the death certificates is wrong to what she's found at PROV.
Any suggestions etc would be appreciated from me but especially from her, as it takes hours going through each year etc.
Thanks in advance,
Mike.
P.s I have all of their Vic marriage, birth & death certificates & so far they haven't helped.
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Hello there Mike
I can't help with any further suggestions on the shipping records but I did see an Edward Jopson on the 1903 Electoral roll in Fitzroy the copy is very poor to read he is a clerk, looks like he is by himself.
Jenn
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Hi again Mike ;D
Will have a look at the Sands and McDougall directories for you from 1876 onwards. I have 1880, 1884, 1892, 1904 and Wises PO Directory 1914. I have concentrated more on the earlier directories ie pre 1880. I suppose you realise the directories are really trade and professional directories but I feel some years are better than others for suburban info.
Re the info on the deaths certs - once again the info on death certs is only as good as the knowledge of the informant. I have rarely found info to be correct on years in the colony on the early certs in my family.
Cheers
Cando
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Thanks for that Jenn....I did have it but forgot to post Edward's 1904 Electoral Roll.
Cheers :D
Mike.
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Hi Cando.....anything you can find, particularly re: Mary Ann Jopson (born 1844) but like you say..the earlier directories are more professional trades etc. She either went before the children, C. 1877 or after them all, C. early 1900's. We know for sure that Cecily & Alice Caroline Jopson went in 1891 & William James went in 1899 but am still missing when Edward & Mary Ann went from Tas to Vic.
Thanks again,
Mike.
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I certainly think you have a bit of a search on your hands...would all passengers be listed? I have seen on records, passengers listed by number only.
Cando
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You may be right but so far she's found them all except for Edward & Mary Ann Jopson, so she's done well. Mind you, it wasn't Cecily & Alice Jopson but Miss Jupson, aged 22 & for William Jopson, Mr Jopson, aged 26 etc, so I will owe her a bit of $ after she's finished. The reason I'd like to find Mary Ann's record of Tas to Vic, is because there were some unfortunate circumstances under which Edward Beardsworth Jopson drowned that I thought may have made her move to Vic early to get away from gossip etc, so if I can prove or disprove either of these, it will be good but she may never find Mary Ann's record if she left Tas soon after 1876.
Mike.
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there is this.
if it hasn't already been posted.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp
Leanne
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Hi Leanne,
Thanks for that but the series that she is looking through isn't indexed & can't be accessed via internet. It's the series called "Inward Passengers (Australian Ports)" Series 933 I think.
Thanks anyway,
Mike.
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Hi Mike
Nothing in the directories between 1880 and 1892 and then in 1892 the following
JOPSON Mrs Mary, Waterfield Street, Coburg.
Nothing more in directories to 1914.
Not much help to you Mike.
Cheers
Cando
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Thanks for that Cando but must be different Mary Jopson as there was a Mary A. Jopson that arrived from England to Vic, aged 31 in 1880 & died in SA in 1906, so I reckon that's her because my researcher has been through before & past 1892 & no sign from Tasmania, Mary Ann Jopson etc.
Thanks heaps anyway...she may not turn up on the directories because she was a Woman, a Widow & didn't have a trade?
Cheers,
Mike.