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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: sutton498 on Wednesday 01 October 08 16:40 BST (UK)
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can anyone find out any info on lydia rose solly born 10th August 1906 died 1976
she was married to william robert laing mcrobb born 4th january 1907 dont know when he died
any help appreciated
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
It would be good if you got their 1926 marriage cert., available on line at Scotlands People. This will give you their parents' names to help you try and find their families. You are outside the period where the censuses can help. It may be that their parents also didn't marry until after the 1901 census and you will need to get their marriage details but everything will help you in gathering info on both families.
Monica :)
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Idon't think it's much help, Monica :(
I've been trying to use the info from it for a while to find parents but so far nothing much -
Frederick Charles Solly, a labourer and Edith Rose Deacon (I think it's a c!)
Gadget
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Found their marriage :)
1914 in Thanet Edith Rose Deacon married Frederick C Solly
Sept q, Thanet, kent, vol 2a page 2355
So Lydia might be registered as Deacon.
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More complicated than it looked Gadget ;) I'll have a look later also (supper and homework in this mad house at present 8))
Monica
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm
FreeBMD has quite a few Frederick Charles Solly birth registrations in Kent in the possible time period - also in other districts in the SE :-\
Think the 1914 marriage cert might be the next option.
Gadget
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Best hit for Edit's birth :
Edith Rose Deacon, Sept q, 1891, Wandsworth, vol 1d page 638
Gadget
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Could this be Edith on the 1901:
RG13/441 F 119 P 4
John Deacon, 32, <can't read occ>, b. Surrey, Lambeth
Blanche, 37, b. Midsx, Haseton ??
Harry, 16,
Frederick, 12,
Edith, 9
Elizabeth, 8
Louisa, 4
all children b. Battersea
Gadget
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I've been going round this for the last half an hour :-\ I did see that entry, but that would make her 15 at the time of Lydia's birth (not unheard of I know). The other entry in Croydon was also late, 1890 so not much better.
A number of Frederick Charles Sollys showing as you said, many born in Thanet.
I wonder if Dawn has been able to track down Lydia's birth cert, unlikely I'm sure as she would have said. I can't see it under Solly or Deacon at this stage.
Monica
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thank yopu MonicaLes and gadget the information you have found out on my behalf is fantastic. I not long got on the computer (have to wait until kids have gone to bed)
Just going through the posts now. I was always lead to believe that they were all scottish. How wrong you can be
dawn
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Nothing showing with those names for Lydia at the moment - maybe full GRO check :-\
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I was looking for clues on any of Lydia's children's names. There's a Frederick showing as b. 1925 in St Nicholas (but they didn't marry until 1926) and also an Edith Rose S.......how frustrating, I wonder what the S stood for?!
What were the names showing for William McRobb's parents on their MC Gadget?
Monica
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David McDougal and Rose Ann O'Neil
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30th April 1926 - both 19 at the time
Witnesses - Georgina Wood and Rodney McRobb
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Nope, not getting anywhere with those names.
Back to possible births, not DEACON, but there is this entry:
Jun- Aug March-June 1906: Lydia Rose DEAN in Southwark - Vol. 1d pg. 38
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Definitely Deacon on the 1914 index and on Lydia's marriage cert - although the c is closed!
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Monica if she was born 10 August 1906, she couldn't have been registered before then :-\ It could be even 1st quarter 1907 - allowing for late reg or even not registered :(
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Agree Gadget, certainly looks like Deacon (could be spelt Deakin etc. on census entries). The closest I can see on births though is the entry I posted (and that was searching FreeBmd quarter by quarter with just Lydia no surname 1904-1906. However, with nothing else on board so far to consider, going round in circles.
Monica
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Looked through the Deakins as well on the full index :(
Thought maybe the 1914 might be a second marriage but can't find anything before that :(
Pity we can't download the E&W certs :(
don't I look a grumpy one with all these :( s
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:D :D :D :D Look who died in Scotland:
1947 - Edith Rose Solly/Deacon, age 59, in ABERDEEN EASTERN DISTRICT, ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN
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And bless his cotton socks....but this one is on order:
1984 - Frederick Charles Solly, 97 :o in ABERDEEN/ABERDEEN CITY
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:o :o :o
Good one - who's going to use up some units then - your turn or Dawn's ;D ;D ;D
97 :o :o :o
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I've just re-charged that unit gun ::)
Edith Rose Deacon married to Frederick Charles Solly, general labourer. Residing at 97 Menzies Road, Aberdeen. Father James Abraham Deacon, architect, no mother's name :'(. Death reported by Frederick.
Monica
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so b. circa 1888 -
Frederick - b.c. 1887
They must be they there somewhere on the 1891 and 1901
Dawn will think it's her birthday ;D
My laptop's really playing up tonight - missing keystrokes everywhere :(
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This has to be Edith (I think!) in 1891 in Reading, Berks.:
(Laura) Looks like James to me on the original Deacon 41, builder, widower, b. Artridge, Berkshire
Frances B Deacon 12
Bernece W Deacon 10
Sarah A Deacon 6
Edith Rose Deacon 4, b. Reading
Emma Barton 10, niece
Caroline Smith 25, housekeeper
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This looks like Edith's birth entry, Rose down as Ross:
3rd Qrt 1887 Edith Ross Deacon in Reading Vol.2c pg.369
Monica
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Looks like James to me too, especially as his age is in the male column and they didn't have many builders called Laura then :) The first letter is very similar to the J in John above.
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Mother Ruth Naomi xxxx, died aged 38 in Reading Vol 2c pg. 215
The family's 1881 entry at 20 Beecham Road, Tilehurst Berks.
Abraham Deacon 31, bricklayer, b. East Hiley, Berkshire
Ruth N. Deacon 29, b. Reading
Joseph Deacon 9, b. Reading
Alice R. Deacon 7, b. Reading
Ruth E. Deacon 4, b. Caversham, Oxfordshire
Frances Deacon 1, b. Reading
Bessie W. Deacon 5 months, b. Tilehurst
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James married as Abraham:
3rd Qrt 1870 Abraham Deacon and Ruth Naomi Winterton married in Reading Vol 2c Pg. 618
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Sept q, 1870, Reading v 2c p 618 Abraham Deacon and Ruth Naomi Winterton
Just found it - that'll teach me to hop between threads ::)
Think I'm calling it a day now, Monica - eyes getting sore :-\
Night - good search that :)
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Me too 8) One for the road, Edith still at home in Reading in 1901. Father remarried:
Abraham Deacon 51, builders manager
Caroline Deacon 37, wife
Edith Deacon 13
Gladys Deacon 8
Albert Deacon 7
Alfred Smith 33, boarder
Arthur Smith 36, boarder
Walter Smith 29, boarder
William Smith 24, boarder
Monica
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Had a quick look at the WW1 medal cards I thought that there must be something that would bring them to Aberdeen. Unfortunately there are 3 Frederick C Sollys listed ::)
Also, he might have been in the Navy and these only cover the Army. Will check again tomorrow and have a look at the Service Records/Pension Rolls.
Gadget :)
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:D :D :D
think I might have found his discharge records:
1919 Frederick Charles Solly - Royal Gunners (?) Artillery
Address 83 Dartford Road, Dartford, Kent
:( :( :( No wife looks like she's called Jessie :( :( :(
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With Frederick born c 1888/9 (I can't believe he was economical with his age given his age at death ::)), this is the only one coming up in the 1891 census...again in Thanet (big concentration there for that name). Everyone showing as born in Ramsgate:
William Solly 41, mariner
Mary A Solly 40
Louisa Solly 18
William Solly 16, mariner
James Solly 13, mariner
Emily Solly 11
John Solly 5
Frederick Solly 2
Monica
Added: 1901 brings up a few more possibilities. I think we need to wait for Frederick to see what shows on either the marriage cert. or his death cert. for parents' details.
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Hi Monica & Dawn :)
Wondered about a naval connection but couldn't find anything last night in the records that I have access to. Will have another look.
I'm still wondering about the possibility of a second marriage for Edith, given that we can't find a birth reg for Lydia under either name. She would have been 18 when Lydia was born so it is possible but I think we've both looked :-\
It's attimes like this that the 1911 census would come in handy!
Gadget
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I've got my growing list of searches for the 1911!
Also the possibility that Lydia could have been Frederick's child from a previous marriage as well. Nothing showing for a first marriage for Edith Rose on her DC, may be something on Frederick's DC? None of which help at present in finding Lydia's birth.
There is only one SOLLY birth in Aberdeenshire showing on SP between 1905-45 and that was for a Robert Solly born in 1921 in St Nicholas, Aberdeen. I wonder if this could be theirs. If so, it would at least confirm marriage details and also potentially when the family had moved to Aberdeen. Also puts Lydia in place for her marriage in St Marchar a few years later.
Dawn, I think you need to be ordering a few certs. now to help you move forward ::)
Monica
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Allthough they married in St Machar - Union Terrace, Maggie gives her address as Menzies Street, Torry which is on the south side of the Dee. Not sure which parish but St Machar was the North part of the city and beyond as far as I can recall.
I've looked through all the Lydia Rose birth regs for 3 and 4th quarters 1906 but don't see any that look likely. Of course, she might not have been called Lydia originally :-\
I started to search on surname only but gave up. Did find this one that gave me a giggle - 1906 birth reg - Arch Deacon ;D
Nothing in any of the RN records online.
Cert time for Dawn, I agree
Gadget
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Thinking about it, the 1914 MC in Thanet would also confirm marital status for Frederick and Edith. There is one birth showing in 1915:
Gertrude H. Solly (mother's maiden name Deacon) in Thanet 1st Qrt 1915, Vol 2a /Pg. 1996
Monica
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Have we found this one before:
March q, 1915, Thanet, v 2a p 1996
Gertrude H Solly mother's maiden name - Deacon
;D ;D ;D ;D Think we're doing the same thing Monica
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Monica and Gadget
You are both amazing i cannot thank you enough. The information you found out on my behalf is wonderful. I will oeder marraige certificate for frederick and edith I will let you know what comes up. Gadget thank you for the marraige certificate. I will now go through all the info and see if i can find out any more.
I am still amazed that the solly were from england and not scotland i always thought it was only my brothers and sisters and I. That were from England and that the rest of the family were from and still are in Aberdeen
;D ;D ;D you both deserver gold stars
many thanks Dawn
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Dawn
There are so so few records showing for the name Solly in Scotland (only 20 :o births between 1890-2006) and by the sounds of it probably all your relatives ;D Only one birth in Aberdeen though, the one I posted earlier, the rest mostly in Lanarkshire.
Let us know what you find.
Monica :)
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Hi Dawn
My theory is that Frederick served in WW1 - the medal cards (Army) have a few Frederick C Sollys listed. I can't find him in the RN records but I think (and it's only speculation) that possibly coming from a family of mariners, he might have joined the RN. This could well fit with a move to Aberdeen.
As Monica says, please let us know your findings from the certs, etc.
I wonder if a posting on the Armed Forces Board (WW1) might bring something up?
Regards
Gadget
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hi
The mariner link does seem likely all my dads brothers and himself worked on the water in some way or another
One of my uncles was lost at sea.
I was just looking on ancestry and there are a few family trees researching SOLLY from the Kent area so i will have a look at them and see if i can link any one.
I am going to have to order my mums birth certificate as I only know her das name and only her mother first name. So i know i wont get anywhere with them until i have more information
Dawn
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Just posting the 1901 entry for the household with William and Mary A. Solly, in case we need it for future reference. The family still living in Ramsgate, all showing born Ramsgate except for mother Mary Ann:
William Solly 51, boatman seas
Mary A Solly 50, b. Landcross, Kent
Louisa Solly 28
John Solly 15, stone mason apprentice
Frederick Solly 12
Mary Solly 8
Violet Solly 2
Monica