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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: Duffy11 on Wednesday 01 October 08 14:35 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am new to this forum, I am needing some light shed into what I'm trying to find.
I have just started officially, I've asked my mum for some history in family tree but not so helpful so all I know,
My dad's name is William Duffy, he's passed away in 2002 - he was adopted so I'm looking to see in both areas of his family history. My dad was married and had a son called Paul Duffy then remarried to Elizabeth Murray and was known as Elizabeth McKillop and remarried with my father- William.
Aunt Eddie not sure of her surname think its Gill
Mary Hamilton who lived on Beeches Road
David Hamilton - sisters with Mary Hamilton, I believe he's still alive
Beth - unknown surname
Also some of the family would be living in America and New Zealand.
I am trying to shed light on this family tree and seems harder than I thought!
Hope somebody can help me find some tracks to focus on as it's a bit messy!
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Hi Mac10,
As the people you know about are fairly recent you would perhaps be better starting with the records in either Edinburgh or Glasgow if you have access to these places. If you look for them online on 'scotlandspeople' you will have to order them. A death or marriage certificate will possibly give you enough information to get started on your ancestors by providing parents names and occupations.
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Hey,
Update to what I've got so far - I've managed to find my dad's parents and grandparents-
His parents were - William Joseph Duffy married to Mary Gill
Grandparents- Edward Duffy married to Ann McMurray, William Gill married to Mary Marshall,
Their parents- Edward Duffy Married to Catherine McDade,
Torrence McMurray Married to Annie McGuire,
Philip Gill married to Bridget (Can't work out surname as have old certificate - hard to read writing) and Richard Marshall married to Mary, surname was hard to read aswell.
one of the holes in this research are William Duffy married to Sarah Docherty married on 5th Nov 1886. Their parents are William Duffy married to Margaret McDade and James Docherty married to Catherine Kane.
They were from Duntocher, old and new kilpatrick and renfrew. I cannot get further with Catherine McDade on scotland's people- maybe she's irish? I am still looking through the rest as trying to fill in holes - how do i find out if they have brother's and sisters?
I am still looking, also my dad has been adopted so I am trying to find out his biological name- adoption office will not release it to me because I dont know his biological name- in meantime I'm working on his adoptive parents family tree.
lil
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Hi Mac10
I have some Gill in the Kane family I’m researching. It looks possible that your Philip Gill maybe the one that married Bridget Morren? If I remember I found her surname hard to read. I would appreciate any info you have on the Gill family
Joe
Generation No. 1
1. PHILLIP1 GILL He married BRIDGET MORREN.
More about PHILLIP GILL: Occupation: Farm labourer
Children of PHILLIP GILL and BRIDGET MORREN are:
2. i. ANNIE2 GILL, b. 10 Aug 1869, Old st Duntocher; d. 28 Feb 1939
ii. AGNES GILL, b. 14 Apr 1859, Old st Duntocher.
iii. MICHAEL GILL, b. 06 Dec 1863, Old st Duntocher.
iv. WILLIAM GILL, b. 07 Jan 1872, Old st Duntocher.
Generation No. 2
2. ANNIE2 GILL (PHILLIP1) was born 10 Aug 1869 in Old st Duntocher, and died 28 Feb 1939 in Clydebank age 69. She married JAMES KANE 04 Nov 1887 in Duntocher, son of HARRY KANE and MARY MCCALLUM. He was born 11 Jan 1856 in Bridgeton.
More about ANNIE GILL: Occupation: Sewing machine worker
Notes for JAMES KANE: 1901 census 35 Old rd Old Kilpatrick
Margaret and John Gill, niece and nephew same address
More About JAMES KANE: Occupation: Shipyard labourer/iron worker
More about JAMES KANE and ANNIE GILL:
Marriage license: James signed with an X
Marriage witness: Michael Gill and Elizabeth Kane
Children of ANNIE GILL and JAMES KANE are:
i. MARY3 KANE, b. 1890; d. 05 Jan 1936, age 46; m. JOHN CONBOY, 31 Dec 1916; d. 27 Apr 1950, age 61.
More About MARY KANE: Death certificate: Septic infection after op 19/12/1935
More About JOHN CONBOY and MARY KANE: Marriage: 31 Dec 1916
ii. SARAH KANE, b. Abt. 1892.
iii. ANNIE KANE, b. Abt. 1895.
iv. JAMES KANE, b. 06 Jun 1898.
v. HENRY KANE, b. Abt. 1900.
3. vi. PHILLIP KANE, b. Abt. 1905.
Generation No. 3
3. PHILLIP3 KANE (ANNIE2 GILL, PHILLIP1) was born Abt. 1905. He married ANNIE MCCALL 19 Aug 1929 in St Mary Chapel Duntocher, daughter of JOHN MCCALL and EUPHEMIA HAMILL. She was born 11 Apr 1908 in Duntocher.
Marriage witness: Owen Sheilds and Sarah McGill
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Hi there,
I have Gill and Duffy, McMurray and McDade in my family tree on my maternal line, mostly connected through 2nd marriages. A bit of a tangled web lets say...
Edward Duffy married to Catherine McDade - don't know dates sorry - they had son -
Edward Duffy born in 1866 in Dalry Ayrshire he was married in 1885 to
Annie McMurray born in 1867 in Maryhill died 1899 in Duntocher.
Edward Duffy had 5 children with Annie. Edward then married my GG granny Elizabeth McQuade in 1903 in Alexandria.
Edwards's children were:
Maggie b 1886,
Thomas b 1889,
Patrick b, 1890
William b 1893 and
James b 1895
My GG gran had 2 children by 1st husband - Mary Mealyea and Annie Mealyea - My G gran (who I shall come back to)
My William Duffy then married Mary Martin, don't know the dates
My family's connection with the Duffys continues...
My G gran, Annie actually married Patrick Duffy (her step brother), Again it was a 2nd marriage for both. Patrick had 4 kids - Edward, Nancy, Patricia and Thomas.
My G Gran had 2 daughters, Elizabeth Annie Mealyea, my g aunt and Mary Helen Mealyea - my gran.
Elizabeth Annie married a William Gill in 1929, they had 5 kids, but not the names you mention they were:
Maria, Wilihmena, George, Edwin and Euphemia.
Apparently Elizabeth Annie left her kids and William Gill ..all quite scandalous.
I don't know if any of the above ties in with your research, but there do seem to be a few common links.
I am trying to tract down the Cuthbertsons for Duntocher / Old Kilpatrick, it is the only part of my tree that I can progress.
Good luck and get in touch if you want more details.
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my great grand-mother was ann -ie mealyea (own Name HENRY ) she married my great -grandfather in 1877 they had about 6/8 children .he died in 1903 and she left duntocher (new street) for australia IN 1912 taking sons john and george with charles falling on later. my maiden name is mealyea ( surname). i also knew a hughie cuthbertson he came from dalgleish avenue in duntocher i was at his 21st birthday party in his house. in 1956/60 he was one of our crowd we all went to dances and parties together he went into the H.L.I. to do his national service
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Hi there I have made another forum topic for the Mealyea / Cuthbertson, not wanting to hyjack this thread. Please have a look http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,404824.0.html
I have come across your Mealyea roots on the census, but I don't think they are connected but they could be.
If you can help at all with the Cuthbertsons from Duntocher then please reply on the new thread.
Thanks
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Hi Raynoel,
I think the Hughie Cuthbertson you are referring to might be my cousin Hugh! Did he have a brother Robert?
'my' Hugh was in the H.L.I. He now lives in Australia and is great pals with my brother Alec.
Helen
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that must be him we all ran about together ,there was:-john frew, albert lydon, billy homes, alex's stevenson (stevie), teresa homes. and another 3 or 4 i can't remember. I'm ray mealyea (maiden name) . that was in 1957/60 he was going out with a girl by the name of kate kemp from O.K.they got engaged i think but broke up i was wondering where he had gone ray
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Hi ,
I knew your father very well ,we grew up together.Yes he was adopted by my aunt Polly and Uncle Willie ,they lived at Veitches Terrace in Duntocher.I don't know to much about the Duffy side..But the Gill side I Know.Are you still interested ..maybe you will have learned all by now.Let me know.
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Hi!
I have some photo's of Dad and I ,also some of the Gill clan including Dad's adopted parents Willie and Polly.
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Hi Mintymoo,
Just stumbled on this wonderful website..the Gill family you mention are not the family that Mac10 is looking for.Lizzie,as she was called was the mother,daughters Maria and Phemie...were the ones who left their families.Willis lived down south and I think the boy's also lived in England.
Yoy also mentined the Cuthbertsons ...Joe was the Janitor for St Marys school for years,another brother married later in life to Mary McGlinchey,they had kids Sadie Mary Albert Gerrard ....that I remember.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Myyran, the Joe Cuthbertson you mentioned was my grandfather, and Mary McGlinchey was his third wife. My father was the son of his first wife, Mary Mochan. After Mary died he married Annie O'Kane, and then Mary McGlinchey. He was abt. 66 when he married her. Altogether he had a grand total of 17 children, 8 -1st marriage, 3- 2nd, 6 -3rd. It was his son Joe (my dad's full brother) who was the janitor at the school, not Joe snr.
Helen
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Hi Mac10,
I knew your father very well ,we grew up together.Yes he was adopted by my aunt Polly and Uncle Willie ,they lived at Veitches Terrace in Duntocher.I don't know to much about the Duffy side..But the Gill side I Know.Are you still interested ..maybe you will have learned all by now.Let me know.
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Hi Myyran,
I don't understand your reply - inserted quotation from previous posting ????
Helen
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I was just going through my files and noticed that I have the Baptism details of Ann Mealyea 1908, d/o Henry Parker Mealyea.
Is this any connection to your Mealyeas?
Helen
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I tried following these posts, but got lost, so I am not sure who I should be asking, but I am interested in the Elizabeth McQuade connection - do you have any further details on her - any parents. That is my name, and my McQuade appeared to be the only ones in Dumbarton around that time so I would be interested to hear more.
Liz
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Bankie, I have the St. Mary's Chapel 1908 Baptism record of Annie McCall if you'd like it.
Helen
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Hi
I saw your post because I am doing the Ancestry.com stuff. THis is freaky! My grandmother is Mary (Margaret) Hamilton (Gill- Maiden name) , she lived on Beeches Terrace as did several family members including your aunt Eddie.
Anyways, yes, Eddie was my grandma's sister. My grandma had four children (bio) David Hamilton, Mary Hamilton, David Hamilton and Kean (my father) Hamilton. They I guess would be your dad's cousins.
Your dad William Duffy, if it who I a thinking of, was adopted by my grandmother's sister Aggie (Gill) and her husband George O'Brien. As far as I know, he was not related to anyone in the family. My grandmother raised a couple children whom were not hers but they were related.
William Hamilton came to America with his wife Betty, their daughter Margaret and had Robert, David and Betty in the states.They live most their lives in Conneticut.
William (Bill) has passed away. Mary Hamilton passed away in Scotland. My father passed. David Hamilton is still living in Scotland.
Wow, so I hope this helps you. I am still trying to track down my grandmother's hertiage also. Oh yeah, the family was Catholic if that may help.
Regards, Rhonda
Hi,
I am new to this forum, I am needing some light shed into what I'm trying to find.
I have just started officially, I've asked my mum for some history in family tree but not so helpful so all I know,
My dad's name is William Duffy, he's passed away in 2002 - he was adopted so I'm looking to see in both areas of his family history. My dad was married and had a son called Paul Duffy then remarried to Elizabeth Murray and was known as Elizabeth McKillop and remarried with my father- William.
Aunt Eddie not sure of her surname think its Gill
Mary Hamilton who lived on Beeches Road
David Hamilton - sisters with Mary Hamilton, I believe he's still alive
Beth - unknown surname
Also some of the family would be living in America and New Zealand.
I am trying to shed light on this family tree and seems harder than I thought!
Hope somebody can help me find some tracks to focus on as it's a bit messy!
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Hi Rhonda,
I'm part of the Gill family. I have a photograph of your Dad and some of the gang if you would like me to mail it.
Your Grandma Maggie brought up Liam, who was her brother's son (willie). William (Bill) was one of her sons. Any news of Liam would be good ..I think he went out to America to Bill and Betty's in the Seventies....but not too sure. William was adopted by your Grandma's sister (Polly) and her husband William Duffy (Sen). Aggie raised Harry O'Brian..George's nephew. Happy to help you with what I remember...let me know.
Myyran
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Oops! forgot to say that the family lived in VEITCHES Terrace.. not Beeches...Just in case someone from around there can also help .
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Oops! (2) You are right Rhonda...it is Beeches Terrace, not Veitches..another 'Senior Moment'.
Sorry!
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Hi Myyran
Wow! Exciting! I would love a picture! so, How did you know my dad? I met Willie (Liam Gill) He came here to visit with my mom and dad some years ago. He's a very nice man. WIllie stayed with my grandma in the states for a short while and also lived with my mom and day in the late 50's early 60's. He was termed by my dad to be a bit of "a wild one" in his younger years. So, How are you related? My email is (*). I am building a tree on ancestry.com.
My father didn't ever talk about his dad and I don't remember my grandmother speaking of him ever. I would love to read anything you have to write about them and also would love a picture if you'd like to share.
grateful,
RHonda
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R