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Title: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Tuesday 30 September 08 16:07 BST (UK)
Hello Rootschatters,
My Dad was born in 1910, and attended Todds Nook School as a boy.
He used to tell me about the teacher putting the children who had no shoes next to the stove in the winter.
Does any information about - or photos of -  the school exist - especially between about 1915-1930.

Also, the vicar (I believe of St Phillips Church) was Father Bernard Taylor about this time.
If a parishoner had to attend a funeral, Barnie Taylor used to lend him his black suit and go to bed till it was returned. His housekeeper was instructed to tell any callers that he was not available.
I would love to know more about Fr Taylor, as he took my Dad (who had had to leave school and become an office boy  through lack of money in the family) under his wing and gave him lots of encouragement to study.
He was not at St. Phillips by 1940, as my parents were married then, and the the vicar who married them was David Sillar.

I know it's a bit of a long shot, but then Rootchat has lots of members, and somebody might just be able to find something.

Thanks in advance
Liz

Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 30 September 08 18:23 BST (UK)
Crockford's Directory of Clergy has
David Bernard Taylor deacon 1896, priest 1897 Man.  Curate of St Thos. Halliwell 1896-98; St Catherine Liv. 1898-1901.   All SS Middlesbrough 1901-06; St Matt.w St Wifreds Miss. Newc T 1906 -25.   Vicar of St Phil. Newc T 1925-39
58 Lavender Gdns Newcastle on Tyne.
That presumably means he retired after 1939 - you will probably be able to find an obituary in the local paper when he dies.  Shoule be on the 1901 census in Liverpool too with luck, or in M'bro.
Andrea
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Wednesday 01 October 08 00:00 BST (UK)
Thanks very much, I'll try the Census you suggest
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Wednesday 01 October 08 00:23 BST (UK)
Andrea
I would never have found him if you had not given me the information that his first name was David.

On the 1881C he is in Longwood, Yorkshire, with his father, also David B, a hearthrug manufacturer, his mother Elllen and siblings. He is the only one born in Oldham. The family obviously moved about a bit
On the 1891 C he is living with his mother, a widow, & some siblings.
His work is as a Solicitor's Managing Clerk, which we EXACTLY what my Dad worked up to from Office Bay!
On the 1901 C, he is a priest of the Church of England at St Catherine's School.

Many many thanks, Andrea.  He was a most remarkable man.
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: sillgen on Wednesday 01 October 08 08:24 BST (UK)
Glad that was helpful
Andrea
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Monday 08 December 08 00:29 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know what happened to Todds Nook School?
Where exactly was /is it?
Is the building still there?
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 09 December 08 10:46 GMT (UK)
Liz, lots of info if google.
log books for 1891-1983 available at tyne & Wear Archive services.

also used as emergency rest & feeding centre in WW2. scroll down to NE diary entry.  address given here as:

Todd's Nook Council School, Darnell St, Barrack Road

also site for reuniting old school members:
http://www.myhometown-schools.co.uk/school_members.aspx?schoolid=53095

gives address as:

New Mills 
Darnell Street 
Arthurs Hill 
NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE 
Tyne And Wear 

Diddy :)
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Tuesday 09 December 08 17:12 GMT (UK)
We used to go down New Mills and Barrrack Road on the way into Newcastle Centre on the No 12 bus when I was small.
I've googled every which way and can't come up with anything.
I found Tyne & Wear Archive Services OK, but can't get into it!
I know I'm not a Computer Whiz, but I didn't think it was that difficult!
 :-\
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 09 December 08 19:54 GMT (UK)
Liz, i just put in todds Nook lane school, newcastle upon tyne.

there is a ref on the A2A site for the log books but not sure if available online. might be idea to contact newcastle library. you can do that online and i have found them VERY helpful in the past - had a return phone call the next day!!:

information {--at--} newcastle.gov.uk

Diddy


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Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: Michael Dixon on Tuesday 09 December 08 23:11 GMT (UK)


The3 Tyne & Waer Archives web site is at   www.tyneandweararchives.org.



On Home Page, menu is down left-hand side.

Click on "User Guides"

Then click on "Schools."

Then see and click on User guide 15D ( for Newcastle Schools)

You will see that it lists their holdings for Todds Nook to be LB ( log books) from 1891-1960 and AR ( Admission Registers) from 1948-1965.

Log Books rarely mention children by name, but of course Admission Registers do !

Michael Dixon
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Thursday 11 December 08 16:23 GMT (UK)
Got it!
Thanks Diddy & Michael.
Season's Greetings to you.
Liz
 :)
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: duncan07 on Sunday 13 June 10 03:13 BST (UK)
Andrea
I would never have found him if you had not given me the information that his first name was David.

On the 1881C he is in Longwood, Yorkshire, with his father, also David B, a hearthrug manufacturer, his mother Elllen and siblings. He is the only one born in Oldham. The family obviously moved about a bit
On the 1891 C he is living with his mother, a widow, & some siblings.
His work is as a Solicitor's Managing Clerk, which we EXACTLY what my Dad worked up to from Office Bay!
On the 1901 C, he is a priest of the Church of England at St Catherine's School.

Many many thanks, Andrea.  He was a most remarkable man.
Liz

I am the grandson of Barnie Taylor. His wife, My Grandmother, died in 1982 after a long illness and his only daughter, (my mother) died in 2004. Before she died, my grandmother often told me stories of the man and his many good deeds.
He died in approx 1950 and his wife was an active member of the congregtion at St Hilda's West Jesmond until her death.
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: mandycooky on Tuesday 15 June 10 11:31 BST (UK)
hi i realize this is an old post but if your on facebook there is a group called old benwell this has many photo,s and info from people on there there also quite a few photo,s and comments on todds nook school which is no longer  standing . hope you can have a look and enjoy
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Tuesday 22 June 10 23:25 BST (UK)
Duncan, I am so pleased to hear from you.
My brother was given the middle name of Bernard after your Grandfather.
He was a most remarkable man, and well loved.
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: fred111 on Tuesday 22 June 10 23:27 BST (UK)
Thanks, Mandy Cooky, I thought maybe the school was pulled down. I'll look on Facebook
Liz
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: ast1324 on Wednesday 06 October 10 21:00 BST (UK)
I live at Burneside, Kendal Cumbria and I have a number of photographs and newspaper cuttings which relate to the evacuees from Tyneside and South Shields who came here during the war. Newcastle sent 1,201 children, 145 teachers and helpers, 955 mothers and children 75 cripples!! South Shields 597 children 63 teachers and helpers and 260 mothers and children.  There is mention of a letter received from the headmaster of Todds Council School, Newcastle.
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: Duncan robinson on Monday 06 February 17 19:51 GMT (UK)
I am the grandson of Bernard Taylor and am proud to say I have inherited a clock that was presented to him by the Teachers and Bairns of St Wilfrid's Mission on March 9th 1925.
Title: Re: Todds Nook and St Phillips, Newcastle
Post by: Brendath on Saturday 18 February 17 19:24 GMT (UK)
My dad went to Todd's Nook at around 1904. I think it was pulled down in the 1960's when the area was regenerated.