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I am looking for info re Thomas Wilkinson born c1832. He was married to Sarah (unknown) born c1835.
In 1861 census, Thomas was a mechanic, living with Sarah and their children John Robert c1857 born Sabden
Edward c1859 born Habergham Eaves
James c1860/61 (he was 5mths at time of census) born Habergham Eaves
They lived at Habergham Eaves in this census
In 1871 they lived at Bury and Thomas was a publican. Family was:
Thomas
Sarah
John Robert
Edward (now born Burnley)
Mary Jane c1863 born Burnley
Minnie (transcribed as Emmy) c1870 born Bury
Alice Dixon servant born Habergham Eaves
In 1881 the family was:
Sarah head widow
Edward born Burnley
Mary Jane born Burnley
Minnie E born Bury
In 1881 Edward married Martha Peak at All Saints Church Elton and the marriage cert states Edwards father was Thomas Wilkinson mechanic. Edward was a telegraph clerk
In 1891 Edward married Jessie Whittaker nee Rutherford at the Parish Church St Mark Bury. This cert also states father as Thomas Wilkinson mechanic.
Neither cert states father as deceased, so I can only assume he was still alive at these times. I do not have Edward's birth certificate to check Sarah's maiden name.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
Julie
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Without a cert you cannot be sure of the maiden name BUT
on the Lancs BMD site there is a record of a Thomas Wilkinson marrying Sarah HORSFIELD at Ribble Register office in 1853.
The registers for that are at Preston.
On Hugh Wallis' IGI Batch number site for Sabden Baptist church there is a baptism of Sarah HORSFIELD on 26th DEC 1834 with parents
Robert HORSFIELD
Mary HAYS
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From the same site in the Sabden records
Thomas WILKINSON
Birth 12 Feb 1832
parents John WILKINSON
Jane TAYLOR
It could be co-incidence but the only children that have two names have both grandparents in them in the same order.
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Hi,
I think Madpants is correct but you would need a birth certificate for one of their children to be certain of the correct marriage. Edward would probably be the best one as he was registered Burnley in 1858 according to LancashireBMD.
Also Marriage certificates didn`t always record that the father was deceased. There is a death of Thomas Wilkinson in Bury in Dec. Qtr 1871 aged 39. This would fit and probably explain why there were no more children after Minnie.
Thomas is living with brother Edward on the 1851 census and his occupation was Mechanic. Reference HO107/2253 folio 67 page 11. O.K. I know it states born Read but the parish of Read actually stretched up almost to Sabden Bridge which is now known as Sabden.
On the 1841 he is living at Blackhill, "Padiham". Blackhill is the hill between Sabden and Padiham . Reference HO107/509/15 folio 24 page 6.
Regards,
Mo
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To Madpants & Mo,
Thanks you very much for your assistance. I was beginning to wonder exactly why I was even looking at family history, as I have hit those brick walls at every turn lately, and was almost ready to give it up!
You have made my day, and given me the incentive to keep on trying to knock down the barriers.
Much appreciated.
Regards
Julie ;D
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You need to consult the works of Dr J A Laycock. He was a late Victorian and village doctor in Sabden. He was an avid genealogist and collected together information from all local church registers AND collated the information into family trees. No doubt there will be several pages of Wilkinsons. There are around a dozen volumes of his pedigrees and other local information that he collected and they are held at Burnley reference library. In the past few years they have been microfilmed and the handwritten volumes taken off the shelves. Book yourself in with a viewer and be prepared to be amazed!!!!!
Audrey
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sorry to but in but im looking to find my family in bury 1881
WILKINSON, Edward Head Married M 28 1853 Calico Weaver
Ramsbotton
Lancashire
WILKINSON, Emma Wife Married F 25 1856 Dressmaker
Bury
Lancashire
WILKINSON, Harry Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Bury
Lancashire
WILKINSON, Herbert Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Bury
Lancashire
WILKINSON, Benjamin Son Single M 1 1880
Bury
Lancashire
CHADWICK, Ellen Mother Single F 51 1830 Fustian Weaver
Bury
Lancashire
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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3863 Folio:
12 Page:
17
Registration District:
Bury Sub District:
North Bury EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Bury Municipal Borough:
Address:
28 North Street, Bury County:
Lancashire
if theres alink let me know cheers
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Hello Kevmac,
A warm welcome to Rootschat.
You would probably have been better to start off a new thread rather than attaching it to this one.
Are you looking for your family before 1881 or after?
Regards,
Mo
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To Audrey,
This is an extremely late apology. I didn't respond to your reply on this thread as I have only just seen it. I had no notification of your reply, or anything after it. ???
Thank you for your reply. If I can find anything on the net re Dr Laycock, I will certainly be checking it out. I am in Australia, so booking myself in for a viewing could prove difficult! ;D
Anyway, once again, I apologise if you thought I was being rude and ignoring you.
Best regards,
Julie
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I have a dead end too with Wilkinsons in Sabden and padiham,
Looking for Thomas Wilkinson born sabden aged 67 on this 1901 census (ref RG13/3877/27 p8) and Arminto? his wife.
Any ideas on this.
Thanks
Bob
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Sorry Bob,
I can't help you at this stage, but just wanted to reply anyway.
This is a blast from the past as it is 11 years since I first posted my query, and the brick walls are still there, mainly because I haven't researched for a number of years now.
I wish you all the best in your search, and I need to get back to mine when I can.
Regards,
Julie
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Thanks Jellybeans
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I have a dead end too with Wilkinsons in Sabden and padiham,
Looking for Thomas Wilkinson born sabden aged 67 on this 1901 census (ref RG13/3877/27 p8) and Arminto? his wife.
Any ideas on this.
Thanks
Bob
What a lot of Wilkinsons :)
I am not sure what you are looking for Bob but hope this helps.
Lancashire BMD
1858 Padiham St Leonards
Thomas Wilkinson and Amenta Mary Robinson
Church record
Thomas Wilkinson 23 yrs father James
Amenta Mary Robinson 22 yrs father Wm Whitaker
Witnesses Ellen Whitaker and William Barker
1851 2253/197/6
West st Padiham
Amenby Whitaker 15yrs with mother Ellen Whitaker, widow and several siblings - including Robinson Whitaker. (Born 1841 mmn Robinson).
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1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTM-Z11
1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7G4-4DF
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-6NFP
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRCY-QW2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VB-XF1
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MV-B8K
I can’t find them in 1871.
ROBINSON, ROSANNA -
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 193
WILKINSON, WILLIAM HENRY mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 182
WILKINSON, WILLIAM mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 244
Possible death given the Thomas is a widow in 1911:
WILKINSON, AMY 72
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 169
Possible deaths given that Thomas is 77 in 1911:
WILKINSON, THOMAS 77
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 354
WILKINSON, THOMAS 84
GRO Reference: 1920 S Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 191
Jamjar
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Dec 1879 Burnley 8e 313
ROBINSON Thomas
ROBINSON Rosannah
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-62SV
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRZ6-T3Z
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VB-YQY
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MV-B8D
ROBINSON, ADA mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 265
ROBINSON, JAMES mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 274
ROBINSON, ELLEN mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 262
ROBINSON, MARY mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 256
ROBINSON, ROBINSON mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 261
ROBINSON, ANNIE mmn ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 236
Death:
ROBINSON, ROSEANNAH 74
GRO Reference: 1932 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 327
Jamjar
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Thanks Jamjar.
I was going to post the censuses this morning but glad you have done that :)
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This is them in 1871 perhaps?
4153/82/8
New Street Padiham
Thomas Wilkinson 34 yrs b Goldshaw Booth, Lancs
Emma Wilkinson 36 yrs. -do-
Rosannah Wilkinson 13 yrs -do-
Ellen Wilkinson 10 yrs -do-
1861 birth Ellen with mmn Whitaker
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Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Julie
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZP9-CXP
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-2Z7B
Jun 1853 Clitheroe 8e 272
WILKINSON Thomas
HORSFIELD Sarah
WILKINSON, JOHN ROBERT mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in CLITHEROE Volume 08E Page 223
WILKINSON, SARAH ANETTA mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 168
Death: WILKINSON, SARAH ANNATTE 0
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 93
WILKINSON, EDWARD mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 153
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7HLB-MN2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7HLB-G6Z
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9K8-SF4
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBQ-3GG
Married:
Sep 1881 Bury 8c 583
WILKINSON Edward
PEAK Martha
Mar 1891 Bury 8c 698
WILKINSON Edward
WHITTAKER Jessie
Deaths:
WILKINSON, MARTHA 27
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in BURY, BURY AND LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 434
WILKINSON, JESSIE 42
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in BURY (BURY AND LANCASTER) Volume 08C Page 394
WILKINSON, EDWARD 72
GRO Reference: 1930 J Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 504
Births:
WILKINSON, JOHN ALFRED mmn PEAK
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 573
WILKINSON, SARAH AMELIA mmn PEAK
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 568
WILKINSON, FLORENCE mmn PEAK
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 581
WILKINSON, HERBERT mmn PEAK
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 552
WILKINSON, ROBERT mmn WHITTAKER died 1892
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in BURY, BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 620
WILKINSON, ERNEST mmn WHITTAKER died 1895
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in BURY BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 580
WILKINSON, MINNIE mmn WHITTAKER
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in BURY (BURY AND LANCASTER) Volume 08C Page 602
WILKINSON, MARY JANE mmn WHITTAKER
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in BURY (BURY AND LANCASTER) Volume 08C Page 592
WILKINSON, JAMES mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 172
WILKINSON, MARY JANE mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 212
Married:
Jun 1883 Bury 8c 542
BUTTERWORTH James
WILKINSON Mary Jane
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KZ-1BP
BUTTERWORTH, SARAH EMILY mmn WILKINSON
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 556
Married:
Dec 1906 Bury 8c 807
SCOWCROFT Edmund
BUTTERWORTH Sarah Emily
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBQ-QGF
SCOWCROFT, EMILY mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 554
SCOWCROFT, WILLIAM mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 541
SCOWCROFT, DOROTHY mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 523
SCOWCROFT, GEOFFREY mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 1001
SCOWCROFT, ELSIE mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 940
SCOWCROFT, EDMUND mmn BUTTERWORTH died 1916
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 835
SCOWCROFT, HILDA mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in BURY Volume 08C Page 739
BUTTERWORTH, ELIZA JANE mmn WILKINSON
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 577
Married: Sep 1906 Burnley 8e 470
BILLINGTON Charles Alexander
BUTTERWORTH Eliza Jane
Deaths:
BILLINGTON, ELIZA JANE 65
GRO Reference: 1949 J Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 10B Page 724
BILLINGTON, CHARLES ALEXANDER 70
GRO Reference: 1955 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 10B Page 991
Births:
BILLINGTON, ALEXANDER mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 214
BILLINGTON, MARY ELIZABETH mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 199
BILLINGTON, NELLIE mmn BUTTERWORTH died 1927
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 197
BILLINGTON, SEPTIMUS mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 333
Married: 1935
BILLINGTON, ARTHUR mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 401
BILLINGTON, JACK mmn BUTTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in BURNLEY Volume 08E Page 245
Married: 1942
WILKINSON, SARAH EMILY mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 413
Death: WILKINSON, SARAH EMILY 0
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 350
WILKINSON, MINNIE EMILY mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 442
Death: Dec 1900 Bury 8c 335 WILKINSON Minnie Emily 31
Jamjar
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Thanks all
It's amazing how helpful you all are.
Got lots of Heywoods in my tree starting with Lily Heywood who married my Great Grandfather william Wilkinson.
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I use Heywood because my grandfather came from there :)
I have Whitworth and Ashworth which brought me to a standstill.
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For Julie. Continued from post #17.
WILKINSON, JOHN ROBERT mmn HORSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in CLITHEROE Volume 08E Page 223
Possible marriage:
Mar 1880 Haslingden 8e 178
WILKINSON John
PARKINSON Susannah
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-ZCDF
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7MT7-NW2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9J5-1N4
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4M6-86X
WILKINSON, WILLIAM mmn PARKINSON
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in HASLINGDEN Volume 08E Page 172
WILKINSON, JOHN ROBERT mmn PARKINSON
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in HASLINGDEN Volume 08E Page 174
Jamjar