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Just to let people know, for whatever reason this is on at 9pm next Monday, not it's normal timeslot of Wednesday! ???
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Must be football! Thanks for that info. Looking forward to that one
Sylviaann
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Thanks Marky for being so informative and depressing me totally. I was looking forward to that tonight. Suppose I shall have to bear the last episode of that Lost in Austen drama thingie :( :( :(
Kerry
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Is he the guy with the over long floppy shirt sleeves who messes up peoples houses ?
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That is such good news for me. The only two programmes I want to watch at the mo are WDYTYA and Lost in Austen - and they are on at the same time! So I watch one and record the other.
BUT tonight I had a dilemma - am going out - so which to record?
If WDYTYA is no till Mon - my problem ceases to exist!
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So it's Jodie Kidd tonight (according to my newspaper) and Lawrence L-B on Monday; thanks for the info.
Yes Lydart 'tis he of the floppy sleeves. ::)
Nanny Jan
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NO - it is on tonight!!
It's next Wednesday's prog that's on Monday (if you see what I mean!)
So - it's Jodie Kidd tonight, and the lovely Laurence next Monday night. :D
Jill
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Good job its my Knitting at the Pub night ... cos I have no idea who Jodie Kidd is .... I'll watch he or she on iPlayer later ...
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Thank goodness for that, I've just looked at the radio times and realised it was Jodie Kidd tonight so we're alright tonight I haven't got to watch the rubbish on the other side ;D
Kerry
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Who's Josie Kidd? I think I will stick to Lost'n'Austin, which I am really enjoying! :)
meles
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EXCELLENT !!
Meles doesn't know either ...
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Jodie Kidd is a model, and a very fast driver, as she showed on Top Gear.
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No No no - what yuo are all saying is that WDYTYA IS on tonight. I dont really care who it is (never heard of Jodie Kidd either ) as interestred in the family history bit. I'd be happy for it to be someone off the street.
Back to decision..... which do I record?
Or do I just stay in?
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Is it our age or something! I also don't know who Jodie Kidd is and I am sure OH doesn't either. I will check with him though - he's a bit older than me and male.
I was looking forward to Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen too. He reminds me of my youngest son when he was younger. He hates it when I say this. I wonder why?
Judy
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Her great grandfather was Lord Beaverbrook. Bet you've heard of him Meles. Also related to some of the first people to go to America
Sylviaann
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That sounds really interesting. Someone elsewhere on this site was hoping that WDYTYA would include early New World settlers one day.
Thanks for that, Sylvia ann.
Judy
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EXCELLENT !!
Meles doesn't know either ...
That makes three of us but I will watch just in case we get an interesting episode. I haven't been very impressed so far though at least David Suchet didn't feel the need to cry all over the place and Ainsley Harriott seemed genuinely interested, which some of the others have failed to do.
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Yes, I agree ... I think they were the best two so far ...
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Oh! Sounds like it might be good. So LiA on video and unknown person with interesting past live. But there's also a programme about Nye Bevan and the history of the South Bank Show on all at the same time... ::)
Like buses, you wait for ages, then 4 turn up at the same time!
meles
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'Listen Again' and iPlayer Meles ...
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Oops, sorry everyone, I did mean that next weeks WDYTYA is on Monday, not tonights! Sorry. :-[
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Tonight's WDYTYA should be repeated on BBC2 tomorrow at 7pm I think (normally comes on as I'm putting my little girl to bed, anyway!).
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I wonder if the real Lawrence Llewelyn-Bowen will be allowed to come through ? My sister used to live about 100 yards down the road from him, and his house doesn't reveal any stunning decor - it's a very ordinary Victorian detached house with conventional decor. I wonder if his programme will reveal rather more down-to-earth roots ? I suspect that he's a very ordinary chap underneath all the public glitz.
P.S. This must be one of the longest WDYTYA threads for a programme that hasn't been shown yet ! :)
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My sister used to live about 100 yards down the road from him, and his house doesn't reveal any stunning decor - it's a very ordinary Victorian detached house with conventional decor.
He recently bought a wonderful old manor house in Gloucestershire, he did at least save the house...but the decor leaves a lot to be desired :-X, I guess you either like his style (I use that word in the loosest sense) or you don't.
Does anyone know anything about the programme? I caught a snippet of him on BBC news prog this morning and I'm sure I heard him say he'd tried wearing a smock. Dare we hope for a few ag labs :D
Suey
P.S. This must be one of the longest WDYTYA threads for a programme that hasn't been shown yet !
Probably because in this one we are allowed to talk about him rather than the programme ;D
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Haha, I saw the same clip on BBC breakfast - the smock reference is to a pic of him as a baby wearing a traditional baby smock thing!
No ag labs were mentioned (I mean, this is Laurence...can you imagine?!) ;D
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Haha, I saw the same clip on BBC breakfast - the smock reference is to a pic of him as a baby wearing a traditional baby smock thing!
No ag labs were mentioned (I mean, this is Laurence...can you imagine?!) ;D
Thanks catylou, at least someone was awake ;D ~ pants on fire! still no ag labs :'(
Suey
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Jodie has a sister who was a model, but is now a Make Up Artist.
She has her own range in Boots too.
Think her name is Gemma Kidd
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Hiya all
Blog in the TV mag says LLB discovers how far back his seafaring roots go and investigates claims that his family descended from wealthy squires whos lands were stolen
MMMM LLB as a squire.... ;D
Willow x
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that WDYTYA is on TONIGHT not Wednesday, for some reason best known to the BBC.
Moderator comment - topics merged
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Got to set the video for Mastermidn, University Challenge and then WDYTYA
Bob
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Got to set the video for Mastermind, University Challenge and then WDYTYA
Bob
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Ada TWIST
Births Dec 1866
TWIST Ada E M Newport, M. 11a 154
Marriages Mar 1884
TWIST Ada Newport M 11a 285
Married "aged 21" ::)
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That was quick Geoff.
My Granny said she was 21 when she married and she was only 18
Bit disappointed with this programme. I love the sea and would love to have a house near it but my only connection was a grandfather who was a dockside labourer. ;D
Sylviaann
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Just about one of the most boring WDYTYA programmes OH and I have sat through (Though granted, OH was a Master Mariner!)
Much of the ground regarding Merchant Navy research has been covered before. David Suchet's ancestor for one, which was fascinating .
No I didn't know who Jodi Kidd was either, but the history and the the Beaverbrook connection indicated somewhere other than Europe
The scandal ,court case and "cash for honours" ,murder, suicide and Native American attacks.
So much was covered in the hour and so far ranging..Brilliant
Spring
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I suppose it depends what you want from the programme.
Personally, as one who's always advocating that WDYTYA actually tries to do more British genealogy, instead of every programme trotting around Europe and the rest of the world ad infinitum, I thoroughly enjoyed this one.
Yes, I know we had a short trip to UBoat HQ in Germany, but I'll let that go!! ;D
Just wish they'd covered the Llewellyn side - purely for the selfish reason that I have Llewellyns in my tree. But I suppose the likelihood of there actually being a connection was pretty minimal!! :(
Jill
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I thought this was pretty dull too.
I just wanted him to get his white cuffs dirty when he was crawling on the floor in the church ... or in the record office, but no ! They stayed shining white the whole time !
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I must admit I did enjoy this a lot one more than one or two of the others in this series.
No emotional baggage being dragged heavily in the background made a nice change, and it was interesting to see the efforts the BBC went to for dramatic effect, all of which failed to move him! The stately rolling back of the carpet in the church, the trip to "the enemy" archives, the visit to the old family house... he took it all in his stride. Refreshing
I thought he came across as someone who was interested on an intellectual level but, past his grandparents level, had no emotional connection, and was intrigued by the family stories without needing to be dragged (kicking and screaming) into the people's woes and calamities in order to find out more.
It was interesting to see the honest Mr Trickey who fairly and squarely bought the property being turned into evil land robber Mr Frickey by family rumour. I think this must happen a lot!
And it was good to see the censuses being searched without using Ancestry!
Glen
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anyone fancy reading the Chancery account regarding the disputed Will of George Yeo which they skipped over quite quickly
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hbADAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA275&dq=George+yeo#PPA275,M1
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We sat through it and enjoyed seeing straight forward research being done,apart from the quick visit to Germany all home grown at last. It showed the importance of researching even well established family stories. He used many of the basic tools so familiar to us all, census, wills, Parish Registers, military records and memorial stones as well as family recollections infact all the things we advise beginners to try. perhaps this should have been the first in the series rather than the last
Trees
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I quite enjoyed it
It was interesting that the evil house stealer turned out to be anything but and it showed how a story could be distorted
It made me laugh that Roger Twist told porkies that took 150 years to be found out. As my mum used to say lies are always found out lol (think she didnt mean quite that long though)
Willow x
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Just wish they'd covered the Llewellyn side - purely for the selfish reason that I have Llewellyns in my tree. But I suppose the likelihood of there actually being a connection was pretty minimal!! :(
I spent the last 20 minutes of the programme shouting "Where are the Llewellyn-Bowens ?" at the screen !
His mother's side was all very intriguing, but we do recognise the personalities by their father's names.
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I spent the last 20 minutes of the programme shouting "Where are the Llewellyn-Bowens ?" at the screen !
That must have been cos there was nothing of interest to be said about them Nick ;)
I wonder if the name only became double barrelled to hide illegitimacy like they do nowadays.
I laughed when he was in the record office talking to camera,and half expected that blonde lady next to him to turn round on go Shhhhhh ;D
Not one of the best I have to say.
Carol
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That must have been cos there was nothing of interest to be said about them Nick ;)
....... or too much ? ;) Not many WDYTYA's where the father's name is barely mentioned at all. When Mr L-B was talking about his Welsh roots on the train, I did assume that they would at least get a mention, but nothing !
P.S. There is a family tree on Ancestry covering Laurence's mother's side (the Downe family tree), but nothing at all about Trefor Llewellyn Bowen.
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anyone fancy reading the Chancery account regarding the disputed Will of George Yeo which they skipped over quite quickly
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hbADAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA275&dq=George+yeo#PPA275,M1
Well, that seems a lot more complicated than the programme outlined !
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I thought it was all rather dull and superficial.
They skipped past several names to get to a few of the more interesting bits, but I, too, was frustrated that they only looked at his mother's side.
Refreshing that this one was mainly UK, with just the one trip to Germany for the U boat records, but did anyone else think it was a pretty trite insert? And only as an after thought did they mention that no lives were lost; the main interest for me!
I am afraid that this is the first series I have seen, and I have enjoyed the previous three. But if this had been the first one I watched I may not have watched any others. ::)
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well i was trying to read the other names on the grave stone
it did seem a bit boring this time
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well i was trying to read the other names on the grave stone
same here! Seemed to be a wealth of information there.
I was disappointed that there was nothing at all on the Llewelyn Bowen side.
Quite interesting - another trip to Greenwich was interesting to me as I've been there, but Mariners were mentioned in David Suchet's so not so interesting for others.
Agree that lots seemed to be skipped over - not a good example to anyone starting the hobby. And left those longer-in-the-tooth at it a bit frustrated.
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anyone fancy reading the Chancery account regarding the disputed Will of George Yeo which they skipped over quite quickly
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hbADAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA275&dq=George+yeo#PPA275,M1
Well, that seems a lot more complicated than the programme outlined !
In the programme, under the notes where it showed that Mr Tricker had paid £2000+ for the estate, there was a part about "conversion to freehold", so it appears that he may not have actually owned the land that the grand house stood on ?
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Just wish they'd covered the Llewellyn side - purely for the selfish reason that I have Llewellyns in my tree. But I suppose the likelihood of there actually being a connection was pretty minimal!! :(
I spent the last 20 minutes of the programme shouting "Where are the Llewellyn-Bowens ?" at the screen !
His mother's side was all very intriguing, but we do recognise the personalities by their father's names.
I was doing this too!!!
(I wonder if it's because they were really called 'Brown' or something...& just invented the 'Llewellyn-Bowen' bit as being a suitable moniker for a Harley Street Surgeon?)
Romilly :)
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(I wonder if it's because they were really called 'Brown' or something...& just invented the 'Llewellyn-Bowen' bit as being a suitable moniker for a Harley Street Surgeon?)
but that would hav emade an interesting programme!
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Well I have enjoyed the whole series. I kept an eye open for anyone I knew at Taunton Records Office where I live but saw no-one! I have now watched the repeats of previous series on UK TV History (I think) and have been rivetted to the screen. If one ignores the questionable celebrity status of the subjects I think it was very informative for family history delvers like me. It has certainly spurred me on. The memsahib who has very little interest in my family history researchings has also thoroughly enjoyed this series.
I thought that the Jodie Kidd episode (whoever she might be) was the most interesting and I was fascinated by the full circle to Yorkshire....good stuff indeed. John Suchet...........well I love Poirot so this was a must
Regards
Alan
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We sat through it and enjoyed seeing straight forward research being done,apart from the quick visit to Germany all home grown at last. It showed the importance of researching even well established family stories. He used many of the basic tools so familiar to us all, census, wills, Parish Registers, military records and memorial stones as well as family recollections infact all the things we advise beginners to try. perhaps this should have been the first in the series rather than the last
Trees
I agree! If you are just starting out it does show that you never know what's out there in the archives waiting to be found.
They skipped past several names to get to a few of the more interesting bits,
Obviously nothing interesting to say about them but a mention of where born and an occupation would have been good.
What about poor old George, I'll bet as the eldest son he thought he was up for inheriting the whole estate, with perhaps a small bequest to each of his siblings.
I can imagine that he truly did think he was 'done out' of his inheritance, especially as it was his youngest sisters husband who had the cash to buy the place....he must have seen it as adding insult to injury.
Suey
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It was a disappointing episode The first 15 minutes devoted to the sinking of his grandfather's ship was of little interest as family history, but the Chancery case later did show how information might be gleaned from such events.
His father was apparently born in 1932 but FreeBMD doesn't like hyphenated names so it is not easily possible to search for other L-Bs to try and ascertain whence the hyphen arose.
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re the visit to Germany when Laurence was trying to establish whether anyone was to balme for teh sinking of his grandfathers vessel, i didn't think this was right and could have caused concern to relatives of the captain of the ship in question (was it the Narcissus?) i was glad that the German guy said that even if the Captain was drunk in charge the other crew members should be capable of carrying out their jobs.
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I was disappointed that there was nothing at all on the Llewelyn Bowen side too, never mind.
I was also disappointed that he didn't get out a huge roll of paper and crayon and take a rubbing of the grave stone. It's the first thing I would have thought of, if I'd been so lucky to have found one! ;D
Pipkim ;)
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I had really been looking forward to this being a fan of his but I was so disappointed :(
I'm afraid I found it all rather boring ::)
I thought too that he would at least have photograph that beautiful tomb inscripition :P
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I was also disappointed that he didn't get out a huge roll of paper and crayon and take a rubbing of the grave stone. It's the first thing I would have thought of, if I'd been so lucky to have found one! ;D
Pipkim ;)
how funny thats exactly what i said to my daughter
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I agree with the posters in relation to photgraphs etc. Of course we only see the edited and finished product but I feel sure that the subjects record something of their search or it is done for them and handed over later. I really cannot believe that they would not.
regards
Alan
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The thought just occurs to me - even if I had been shown the stone I probably wouldn't have had a roll of paper and a brass rubbing crayon in my pocket!!
Alan
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The thought just occurs to me - even if I had been shown the stone I probably wouldn't have had a roll of paper and a brass rubbing crayon in my pocket!!
Alan
Yeah, but then you wouldn't have a film crew in tow either ;D
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No that is very true. Anyway I feel sure that the programme researchers could have suggested that someone involved somewhere could have had a brass-rubbing kit handy. It was just my very feeble attempt at a jest!!!!
Regards
Alan
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I'm sure if it had been Linda Barker, she would have had paper and a crayon ;D
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No, I think she can write!!!
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His father was apparently born in 1932 but FreeBMD doesn't like hyphenated names so it is not easily possible to search for other L-Bs to try and ascertain whence the hyphen arose.
Possibly linked with the FreeBMD entry for a Trefor Llewellyn M BOWEN at Merthyr T reference 11a 896
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I found last night's programme the least interesting of the latest series I am sorry to say.
And like so many others I would love to know more about their Llewellyn-Bowen roots. If I remember rightly his paternal grandfather was a ships chandler in Newport but where is the Welsh surname connection?
There will be a new series in the new year apparently.
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I was also disappointed that he didn't get out a huge roll of paper and crayon and take a rubbing of the grave stone. It's the first thing I would have thought of, if I'd been so lucky to have found one! ;D
Pipkim ;)
Many churches don't allow the practice of brass and or any other rubbings nowadays.
I'm pretty sure someone will have either taken stills or at least a full transcription of that stone!
Suey
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Many churches don't allow the practice of brass and or any other rubbings nowadays.
I'm pretty sure someone will have either taken stills or at least a full transcription of that stone!
Suey
I'm in dream mode now ;) wouldn't it be nice if all the gravestones were cataloged in image format, saved as an archive, then we could all just walk in a get a paper copy of a brass rubbing without getting near paper an crayons.
Actually I would have liked to have seen the full inscription on the grave stone/memorial plaque, just from a graphic point of view.
Pipkim ;)
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Well, I've often thought about the feasibility of starting up a site which catalogues gravestones from graveyards around the country (even the world). When I visit a small graveyard, I photograph every gravestone in it, for future reference, and I often upload pictures of gravestones to my Ancestry tree. It would be great to have a national (or even international) site catalogueing photos of gravestones. However, the logistics of such an enterprise, and who would actually fund it, is always the stumbling block. I know that there are sites already with photos of local gravestones in some areas, but it would be great to have an archive, particularly since many stones will be unreadable in another 20 years, because the upkeep of some graveyards is so poor.
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Nick, I think there are several sites already that have tried to start up an online MI database. Content is very limited.
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Looks like the hyphen is a recent affectation
http://www.glenysgriffiths.com/bio/
indicates that Lawrences great grandfather was Ifor Bowen, whom FReeBMD indicates to have a mother by the name of Llewellyn, and doesn;t show Trefor's name as hyphenated
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The On Line parish Clerks often include photos of head stones with transcriptions but they rely on us ordinary folk to supply the m I have contributed mine for Beaford and St Giles in the Wood Devon but I admit I only take photographs of the family stones as usually time on visits to family areas is too precious to allow more than what is need for personal research or specifically requested hunts from fellow researchers. It would be a great project for local FHS though wouldn't it I could find time to do our local church
Trees
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I thought it was a good program without the exotics destinations( apart fro the unnecessary visit to the U Boat archives)
(Only saw it last night on video)
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Well, I've often thought about the feasibility of starting up a site which catalogues gravestones from graveyards around the country (even the world). When I visit a small graveyard, I photograph every gravestone in it, for future reference, and I often upload pictures of gravestones to my Ancestry tree. It would be great to have a national (or even international) site catalogueing photos of gravestones. However, the logistics of such an enterprise, and who would actually fund it, is always the stumbling block. I know that there are sites already with photos of local gravestones in some areas, but it would be great to have an archive, particularly since many stones will be unreadable in another 20 years, because the upkeep of some graveyards is so poor.
Have you thought of adding your photos to http://www.findagrave.com/? They mainly have US burials, but I think you can add graveyards in England too.
Kathryn
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The most amusing part was where Laurence stood back, and let two elderly gentlemen get down on their hands and knees to lift a carpet for him. ::)
I was abit concerned early on when they seemed to take it for granted that he was related to the 'squire'. I thought that was a bit sloppy (I suppose they would have traced it behind the scenes).
I found his trip to Germany as a complete waste of time. For a document like that, I'm sure they could have emailed someone to look for them. I didn't understand what the obsession was with the sunk ship - afterall - no-one died. ;) I also thought he was a bit ratty to the German researcher. 'My Grandfather was on that ship' - as if the poor man was supposed to grovel and apologise for what happened 90 years ago.
Apart from that it was alright.
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This is the only one in this series I have not seen. I recorded it but having read ALL the previous remarks I do not feel very inclined to watch it. If I have a spare hour to kill maybe I might make the effort. Anyway I will see!
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Well, I thought it was quite good, precisely because it was all a bit dull.
Like my tree! ;D
No histrionics, no miraculous discoveries, no staged telephone calls or unexpected parcels arriving in the mail.
I thought it was interesting that for this programme they were looking at census returns on microfilm (what an enormous machine too!), rather than Ancestry, which they usually use. Perhaps Auntie's subscription to Ancestry had run out! ;D ;D
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perhaps they will have library visits to view Ancestry in the next series ;D ;D ;D
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I thought it was interesting that for this programme they were looking at census returns on microfilm;D ;D
I did wonder how he knew what to look for going through the fiches.
How would you do it with no transcibed index?
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I thought it was interesting that for this programme they were looking at census returns on microfilm;D ;D
I did wonder how he knew what to look for going through the fiches.
How would you do it with no transcibed index?
Probably used Ancestry first, then got out the old machine, dusted it down, re-read the instructions and fired it up just so it would fill an extra few seconds of screen time. ;D
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Probably used Ancestry first, ;D
Well........I thought of that.
But then what was the point of using that big old fiche reader. Purely a rhetorical question, just another point to illustrate the way the programmme makers fudge information, and are economical with some of it.
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I did wonder how he knew what to look for going through the fiches.
How would you do it with no transcibed index?
Takes me back to the days before the censuses were indexed - and to find anyone you did have to go through miles and miles of microfilm ..... for the area where you thought they may be. If they moved to a different area there was no hope.
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Wasnt the chap a local historian or similar ? He probably had started research long before Online Indices and search engines ... :P
Perhaps he was well versed in the PIECE and Folios for the parish, and found his way around it quite quickly ?
8)
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Ah the good old days. I remember looking at fiches of the census. I have some CDs now, no indexes. Haven't looked at them in years.
Sylviaann
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I have used that very machine or one which is a lookalike in the same room at the same records office. Mind you that was before Ancestry et al. Then you could actually read from the parish registers - what a joy! You were touching the same page that your ancesters had touched!
Regards
Alan
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What if you don't live in Wales (Welsh libraries already subscribe to ancestry www. ancestrylibrary.co.uk so you can view census, bmd etc material for free) or don't want to pay fees for ancestry yourself - good old fashioned fiche/film readers will probably outlast PCs anyway!
L L-B was disappointing, but how many of us out there have uncovered anything remotely exciting? We can't all have exotic back grounds in far off places! Jodie Kidd was great! thoroughly enjoyed that episode - she even came across as being a pretty decent person and Human! Did you notice the car they gave her in Canada/Us? Radio Times pointed out that because she loved cars/driving they had to give her something really good to drive, lucky girl!
Loved Esther Rantzen - hope i'm like that at her age!
All in all - good series - looking forward to the next and enjoying reruns of the past.
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What if you don't live in Wales (Welsh libraries already subscribe to ancestry www. ancestrylibrary.co.uk so you can view census, bmd etc material for free) or don't want to pay fees for ancestry yourself
I've just tried a few counties at random ... Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and Lincolnshire all have Ancestry access from their branch libraries. You don't have to be in Wales.
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Did you notice the car they gave her in Canada/Us? Radio Times pointed out that because she loved cars/driving they had to give her something really good to drive, lucky girl!
Did they? Yes I was thinking all the way through how lucky she was.
I have to say I can't really believe that coming from the 'titled gentry' as it were, that no-one had yet done the family history though, at least some of it.
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Hi GeoffE,
that's great news, I thought it was only in Wales! Why don't we all use our libraries more? There's some great stuff there for tracing your Family, you don't always have to trek to the nearest Archive Research Point!
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Agree on the local library, ours has the graveyard layout to the local churchyard and civil cemetery cross referenced to the names and dates of who is buried in each plot. Something the RO doesn't have! A quick scan (10p when I last did it) and off you can go without spending hours trying to decypher the stones or wondering about the unmarked graves.
Only downside to the library is the kids that are "supposed" to be studying in there but aren't.
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I think a library should be all things to all people - get the kids in!! at least they're not on the street terrorising the neighbourhood! Of course when you have an XBox in your library that can be a pain but libraries are not only places to sit and study - they're supposed to be about bringing the community together under one roof - don't you think? ???
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Too right Pip
Our library has a separate computer room and a children's area and a reading room they have story reading times in the children's area Yes some of the teenagers giggle and chatter with their friends but as long as they don't usually stay long and if you can avoid the after school hour slot you can usually get on OK It is getting them used to the facilities offered and one day they will be back and not scared to enter the "hallowed silent ground" I must own up to the occasional excited outburst in the library my self couldn't help when I found my dear Great Aunt Alicia (almost had to curtsy when I met her as a child) was baptised Alice Fanny Minnie and her equally forbidding sister Great Aunt Lucile was plain Lucy..well you'd have laughed too
Also saved an awful lot of research on the day after sitting quietly for an hour next to a stranger both engrossed in our fiche readers I hissed art my husband Do yo also want Froodes? The lady next to me exclaimed Froodes She had the whole tree with her back about five more generations wow don't ban anyone from such institutions
Trees
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Good on you Trees!!
I'm glad someone else appreciates their local library. If we don't use them they will be lost forever! I used mine to check the Radio Times mag to see when the Who Do You Think You Are? programmes were on. So good on them........UP the libraries.......hurrahhh ;D they also take the Who Do You Think You Are? monthly magazine! Even better!!!
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Well yes I agree but the library in question is in a town where a certain poet laureate asked to be bombed! Its opposite the college, which is now dressed up to be a university.
the childrens area is fantastic, and the younger ones love it - its the older yound adults who duck out of college on the pretence of revising/research and cause mayhem that are a problem in the local studies area. Luckily there are not too many of them and my own local libaries do not suffer the same fate.