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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: lindapupcat on Sunday 28 September 08 19:23 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I have been reading with interest about your entry re the Burt family and would like to add my tuppence worth and maybe search your brain for more info!
We have a John Burt in our family born c 1717 in Dunfermline who married Rachel Hunter in November 1740. Their son John Burt (b, August 1751) married Arminta Wright in 1776 and their daughter Minto married Thomas Morris in1806. My gt. gt. Grandad was a grieve at the Elgin Colliery in Parkneuk and lived at Blackburn. I think they all worked or lived in Parkneuk at some time or other.
Do you think the above Burts are part of the same family as yours?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Linda Taylor.
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Hi,
What was the name and dob of your ggrandfather? I have connections with
the Burt family from Dunfermline, and the Hunter family. My ancestors also
worked at the Elgin Colliery in Parkneak.
We have a mystery relative called Stephen Miller dob 1886/7 who was born in Blackburn but nobody can trace him.
I know this is a long shot but with so many similarities I had to write.
Tab11
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Hi,
What was the name and dob of your ggrandfather? I have connections with
the Burt family from Dunfermline, and the Hunter family. My ancestors also
worked at the Elgin Colliery in Parkneak.
We have a mystery relative called Stephen Miller dob 1886/7 who was born in Blackburn but nobody can trace him.
I know this is a long shot but with so many similarities I had to write.
Tab11
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Hi,
Thanks for your letter. I hope this is of some help to you.
My gt. gt. grandad was Alexander Russell a one time coalhewer at Elgin colliery who must have worked his way up to the Grieve (This was on his death certificate). Alexander was born 11th May 1795 in Dunfermline and married Jane Wilson on the 24th December1813.
Re the Burt family:
My 5xGrandad was John Burt who married Rachel Hunter in 1740.
John's siblings were:
Agnes b 1743
Jean b 1754
William b 1745
Janet b 1747
Rachel b 1749
George b 1757.
John was born 27th August 1751.
Re the Hunter family:
Rachel was born 26 June 1718 to William and Janet Hunter who married 11th Dec. 1713.
William b 9th October 1692 to William Hunter and Bessie Craig who married 22nd July 1687.
William b to Johne Hunter and Jonet Morgan who married 19th May 1657.Johne Hunter b to Johne Hunter and Bessie Wels who married 20th October 1629.
I hope this is of some help to you and please contact me again if you have any more qyeries or info.
Are you in Scotland?
Kind regards,
Linda.
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Hi Lindapupcat,
Although I feel certain we have some connection I cannot see it. I will
continue to do research and get back to you if I make any headway.
I am in the freezing cold Isle of Man.
Tab11
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Hello again,
You might get more info from Scotland's People and the Church of Latter Day Saints family search. It's £6 for 30 credits on SP but LDS's is free.
Freezing here in Dunfermline too.
Linda.
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I have been following your correspondence about the Burt family with great interest. I am researching an ancestor named Robert Burt and am hoping you may be able to help me. From ScotlandsPeople, and censuses, I know that he married Margaret Watt in 1823 in East Lothian and that they had five children: Andrew, David, Elizabeth, John and Robert. The OPR of Robert's death (1859, Edinburgh) gives his parents as Andrew, a weaver, deceased, and Nancy Williams, deceased. I understand that the names Nancy and Agnes are interchangeable, so I think that he may be the son of Andrew Burt and Agnes Williamson, born Baldridge, Fife in 1801.
I have read another series of posts under Burt History and there is some correlation between what I have and the information posted. I am confused however by discrepancies between the IGI and ScotlandsPeople. Although both agree on Robert's marriage date and place, they differ on the birthdates of his children and I can't find any records on ScotlandsPeople for the birth of Robert to Andrew and Agnes. Have you encountered a similar problem? Would you have a suggestion for how I might resolve this problem? I live in Australia so am unable to see original documents in person.
Grateful any assistance or advice you could give.
Cheers
Earl
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hi everyone the burts are attached to every tree in scotland it seems. john burt who married arminta wright belongs to john burt and rachel hunter does any one know who john burt married to isobel anderson belongs to? i am still cleaning and verifying misinfo in my file this is another one of those. beans
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Hi Beansgram,
I have been trying to find the answer for you about John Burt/Isobel Anderson, without any luck so far. Do you have any further info i.e. dob's
for either of them?
Tab11
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Hi,
An Isabel Anderson married a John Burt at Cleish in 1765. Hope this helps.
Linda.
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hi chatters this john burt was attached to the wrong family in my file and i am trying to but him where he belongs i have no info on john or isobel but do have some of their children
john aug 24 1787
isobel feb 27 1798
henry feb 24 1800
james feb 2 1794
william apr 24 1806
robert dec 3 1795
all of these children were born around cleish how ever there are huge gaps between some of them. also there is another james and another william in the gaps beans
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Hi,
Should have said Isabel Anderson was BORN in 1765 at Cleish and John Burt was born in Cleish too in 1761. Not sure of the date of their marriage.
Linda
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hi linda thanks for the info you found all i have on this family is the children and the sam dates you found for the parents. and that all of the children were born in cleish kinross. i got this info from someone else and it ws attached to another john who was married to arminta wright. so now i am trying to find out where this john belongs.
beans
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Hi Beans,
Arminta Wright (Minto Burt) was my ?xGrandmother. Will send you more details when I rake out the file. L
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hi linda
do you know where the john burt and isobel anderson belong which burt family they belong to.
beans
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Hello all, I am new to chat, and the Burts of Dunfermline are my primary interest.
I do have a number of births transcribed from parish records, 1655-1811.
I also have some of the genealogy that my 3rd ggf worked on while visiting his family in Dunfermline.
I KNOW the name Arminta Wright is in one or both sets of records. I need to catch upon the other thread mentioned, and then I will start looking through the records I have and see what I can come up with.
In the meantime, I am happy to meet other Burt family members.
Amy
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I have a John Burt (or maybe father and son) as witnesses at the following baptisms (mother and daughter) in Dunfermline. The Burt and Shipherd/Shephird etc families were probalby friends, or maybe John Burt was an elder in the Kirk.
November 1739 Baptism
William Shephird, in Casestock had a woman Child, born to him, of his wife, Margaret Tulloch, the 11:th and Baptized the 22nd Called, Janet Witnesses John Burt & Will: Trotter
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Register of Baptisms Aug 1776
Robert Thomson Collier at Berilaw & his wife Janet Shipherd had a Daughter born 13th August and baptised the 25th named Elspeth
Witnesses John Burt & John Shiperd at Berrilaw
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I have some information on John Burt and Isabell Anderson. John is my grgrgr grandfather. I believe he was the son on John Burt (abt 1743) and Mary Drummond. That's about as far back as I've been able to trace them.
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Hi _ I've just picked up on some old chat about the Burt's of Wemys - I am descended from Margaret Salmond and John Burt m 30 December 1742. I know that there was quite a lot of discussion about this on the earlier chat, so am hopeful that some one is still out there looking for the same branch.
There was also talk of John Burt and Rosina Anderson - the name came down through the generations as my grandmother was called Rosina - my mother hated her mother in law's name and thought it was made up - so its been interesting to find out how old it is.
Chisel (this is not actually the my name you will be glad to know - but the name of my son's dog!)
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Hi Chisel,
BURT FAMILY
;)The only Anderson I can find in my tree is Grizzell Anderson 4/4/1629 (Dunfermline.) Is
your Rosina anything to do with her? How's that for a good name ha ha
Tab11
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Hi - I'm not back that far yet so could not say one way or the other - I will keep an eye out for her if I get back that far - its a name to remember, a bit like Rosina.
Cheers
Chisel