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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: gbugden on Thursday 25 September 08 07:38 BST (UK)
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Hello
The wedding certificate of MARY SHANKS who married William Clark in Queensland, Australia in 1883 says she was born in "Sago County Armagh Ireland" to Samuel Shanks and Jane Robinson. She was 22 years old. Therefore born about 1861.
I would like more information about this family. I tried to Google "Sago" but can not find any town or village by that name in Armagh.
Can anyone help with the geography or with birth or marriage data for these people?
I would appreciate any scrap of data that may be provided
Cheers
Greg
AUSTRALIA
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There's no place called 'Sago' but it's likely Seagoe. There's Seagoe Upper and Seagoe Lower. See www.thecore.com/seanruad to find details of townlands in Ireland (be sure to change setting from exact match to search for part of a word).
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Thank you
This is a good lead. Can you tell me how the word would be pronounced with an Irish Accent?
'Say-go' or perhaps 'See-go'
Cheers
Greg
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I wouldn't presume to tell you how to pronunce Seagoe, but here is a wee scrap of information. My subscription to Emerald Ancestors ran out yesterday, but they have 1 marriage for Samuel Shanks in 1857 marrying a Jane?,Co. Armagh and 1 Jane Robinson in 1857 marrying
a Samuel?,Co. Armagh. This makes me think this is their marriage!! Armagh Ancestors has one marriage for Samuel Shanks in 1857 which you can view for 5 euros. Probably worth it. Mary was born before civil registration of births, so you would have to look at church records. I would go for the marriage record first and that will tell you the church in which they were married.RosemaryJoan
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Great Leads! Thanks Rosemary..I'll get on to that site and see what comes up.
Your help is very much appreciated.
Cheers
Greg
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Let us know how you do. RosemaryJoan
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hi greg,
seagoe is pronounced " see-go".
tony
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greg, this is the marriage rosemaryjoan mentioned;
samuel shanks married jane robinson 14-aug-1857
seagoe church of ireland
seagoe parish
the seagoe church is in portadown. i cant remember the name of the church
at the minute but i'll find out for you tomorrow.
tony
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Church of Ireland website page for Diocese of Armagh:
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses&page=parishes&id=60
St. Columba's and St. Mark's both in Portadown.
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st. columba's church is on the loughgall road on the far end of portadown and st. marks is bang dead in the middle of the town itself. i had a look at the link and seagoe isn't on it. i have a notion that it isnt in the diocese of armagh but dromore, or down and dromore. not sure though.
tony
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Here's the page for Diocese of Down and Dromore:
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses&page=parishes&id=63
Seagoe is listed under Dromore:
www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses&page=showparish&id=12590
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st. gobhan, thats the one! i think once you cross the bann, in portadown, you leave the armagh diocese and enter the diocese of dromore.
tony
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Thank you everyone for your advice and suggestions for further information.
I have a lot more to go on now and I am very grateful for your kind interest in my question.
Perhaps I can update you on what I find in the near future.
Thank you all
Greg
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In reply to gbugden I have come across the following:
Jane Robinson 21, Spinster weaver, Father Dawson Robinson weaver. Seagoe Co Armagh
married Samuel Shanks 22, Batchelor weaver, Father John Shanks weaver. Kernan Co Armagh on 14th of August 1857. I hope this is a help.
Best Watson
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Thank you Watson.
I had the date for this marriage but not the residence for the groom; Kernan. So you information is appreciated and completes this record for me.
May I ask your source so i can site it in my records?
Cheers and happy Easter
Greg
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This is from the records at St. Gobhan's church in Seagoe and comes from their registers. You can Communicate with them on office[at]seagoe.fsnet.co.uk
Best Watson
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I'm on to it!
thanks Watson.
Greg
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Just noticed this thread!
My father was called Dawson Robinson and was born in Portadown in 1916. Our family has always wondered about his unusual Christian name. Could he possibly be related to the Dawson Robinson that you mention in your search?
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There are a few Dawson Robinsons in the records of Seagoe Parish which is on the outskirts of Portadown. I believe that you are probably related to a line of them. It was somewhat common to call a child by the maiden name of a wife for example and then that became a regular family name. I believe my first name Watson came from this practice and has continued through the generations. I have at least 23 relations currently whose first name is Watson.
Best watson
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I have come across the following records
Dawson Robinson b 1830 d.1892
District of Lurgan
Dawson Robinson Bap. 29 Jan 1865 d.1872
Father Dawson Robinson mother Ann Jane Linas
Dawson Robinson Law Clerk of Clones father Stephen Robinson Farmer
Married Jul – Sept 1904 Parish of Seagoe
to Elizabeth Robinson of Tamnaficarbit, father Dawson Robinson Farmer
Elizabeth had a brother Joseph.
Remarkable coincidence
This may be your father
Dawson Robinson b.3 Apr 1916 bap.in Seagoe Parish Church 4 Nov 1916
Father Joseph Robinson, farmer of Tamnificarbit Mother Mary
Sponsors: Henry McKnight, Joseph Robinson & Mary Robinson.
Best Watson
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There is a Dawson and Mary Robinson of Kernan having a son William baptized April 29, 1835 at the Seagoe church. I think this is the first child of his in the record, though Anthony and Sarah Robinson are also from there and having children earlier.
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Thanks for the information, yes that is my Father! I'm completely new to this, so what is the best way to tackle finding out more about the family?
My father said that his Mother and Father died when he was young and I know he had brothers called Joseph, Hampton and Robert and a sister called Grace, who have all passed away.
Any advice gratefully received!
Ann Marie
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Talk to as many living reletaves and get as much factual information of places dates and names as you can. Get some reasonable family tree software which will help a lot. You can make enquiries of the parish of Seagoe around which several generations of your family seems to be based from office[at]seagoe.fsnet.co.uk Another good site to locate generations of irish families is www.familysearch.org
Let us know how you get on
Best Watson
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Thanks for the information, yes that is my Father! I'm completely new to this, so what is the best way to tackle finding out more about the family?
My father said that his Mother and Father died when he was young and I know he had brothers called Joseph, Hampton and Robert and a sister called Grace, who have all passed away.
Any advice gratefully received!
Ann Marie
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Hi Joe, What is the reason for your post?
Best Watson
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Hello everyone.
I have just discovered this chat, and am interested in finding further information on my great great grandfather who was DAWSON ROBINSON. I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, which is where he died on 30 July, 1883.
The only facts I have are as follows:
He was born in Ireland, Co Armargh, c a 1815. His parents were Bartholomew Robinson (occupation 'farmer') and Jane Dawson.
Dawson married Mary Wilson in about 1834 in Ireland - Mary was born in Portadown, about 1812, and died in Brisbane on 1 September 1890. Her parents were Richard Wilson ('farmer') and Jane (nee Leathem).
Dawson and Mary's children were William b c 1835 (my great grandfather)
Joseph b c 1839
Dawson b c 1842
Lititia b c 1848
Martha b c 1850
John b c 1854
Mary b c 1857
I am quite certain that all of the above children were born in Ireland, as Dawson and Mary arrived in Australia in 1863. With them, came my great grandfather, William and his wife, Mary Jane nee Cairns. I believe their first child, Wanata, was born on the journey to Australia. I have heard family stories that Joseph and Lititia came to Australia, but have no knowledge of the other children.
William and Mary's sixth child was Mildred Wentworth Robinson who was my grandmother.
I would love to hear from someone who has more information about this part of my family tree.
Best wishes from sunny Queensland!
Traffy :)