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Title: Whitham family
Post by: wellspring on Tuesday 23 September 08 10:54 BST (UK)
Information required for my great grandad Harry Whitham who in 1928 lived at 28 Sherbrooke Road,Nottingham, he was a mechanical engineer and one of his sons was Sidney Whitham who  had a brother Harry.
Unfortunately thats all the information I have.
Hope someone can help
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 23 September 08 11:11 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat Wellspring  :)

Is the information you have from Sidney's birth certificate? If so, the certificate should also give Sidney's mother's name.

If we find the reference for Sidney's parents' marriage and you purchase the certificate, it should tell us more about both of them - ie ages and fathers' names, which in turn should (hopefully) allow us to find them in the 1901 census.

 :)
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: wellspring on Tuesday 23 September 08 11:23 BST (UK)
the information i have is from the marriage certificate between my grandad sidney and my grandmother Rosetta Mary Heathcote on the 9th of june 1928, her address was 6 Breedons Buildings Bobbers Mill Road.
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 23 September 08 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi Wellsprung

Welcome.  There is only one (out of 39 matches) Harry Whitham on the 1901 census in Notts:

Notts / North Wheatley / aged 3

I can't view the image from work, but someone else might be able to.  It would be unwise to assume that this is your relative without some form of corroberation.

David
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 23 September 08 11:33 BST (UK)
Ah, OK. So are you presuming that the address Sidney married from was his father's address?

Anyway - how old was Sidney in 1928? Any idea how old his brother Harry was?
With a little luck, they will appear on the 1901 census ...    

(Hi Williamscdr, long time no see ;))

 
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: wellspring on Tuesday 23 September 08 11:59 BST (UK)
Sidney was 26 years old in 1928. I have no idea how old Harry was but think he was younger.
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 23 September 08 12:27 BST (UK)
Sidney was 26 years old in 1928.
How very uncooperative of him  :P

I'm afraid this means you'll have to first get hold of his birth certificate to discover his mother's name
 
I can't see a birth in Nottinghamshire for him but I do see
Sidney Whitham
December quarter 1902 
Rotherham registration district
Volume 9c page 804 

(found here : http://www.freebmd.org.uk/)

Birth registrations in the December quarter can cover births between mid-August and December. Does anyone remember Sidney's birthday? 
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: wellspring on Tuesday 23 September 08 13:59 BST (UK)
hi tati many thanks for your help, certificate ordered, see where we go from there.
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 23 September 08 14:21 BST (UK)
I dearly hope it reveals the correct father  :P
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 September 08 17:14 BST (UK)
Hi Wellspring - thanks for PM. Indeed I think we're getting somewhere now, and I'm very relieved it was the correct birth reference!  :D

So Sidney Whitham's parents were Harry and Jane Ann nee Taylor.

There's only one match for the marriage on FreeBMD
September quarter 1877 1887
Middlesbrough registration district 9d 772
Harry Whitham - Jane Ann Taylor

Here they are in 1891 (and the fact Jane was born in Middlesbrough explains that they were married there)

1891
RG12/3851 67 4
Kimberworth, Yorkshire
Thorpe Hesley
Wentworth Rd 18
2 rooms occupied

Harry Whitham, head, 24, Coal Miner, b. Sheffield
Jane Ann, wife, 25, b. Middlesbro
Emily, dau, 1, b. Thorpe Hesley
Hannah, dau, 3, b. do.
Frank, brother, mar, 30, Coal Miner, b. Sheffield
 8)
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 September 08 17:28 BST (UK)
1901
RG13/4341 162 7
Sheffield Nether Hallam, Yorkshire
28 High House Ter
4 rooms occupied

Harry Whitham, head, 37, Stationary Engine Tenter, b. Sheffield
Jane D*, wife, 38, b. Durham Middlesborough
Hannah, dau, 13, b. Sheffield
Emily, dau, 11, b. do.
Harry, son, 1, b. do.

*It does look like D! Hopefully just an enumeration mistake.
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: wellspring on Tuesday 30 September 08 16:54 BST (UK)
hi again tati, Thanks again foryour help, Have been in touch with an uncle today who can remember visiting an aunt Emily .I wanted to make sure we were on the right track before i ordered any more certificates. Thanks again will be in touch.
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 21 October 08 07:53 BST (UK)
Hi Wellspring,

Thanks for PM - I'll post the marriage cert details here if you don't mind so that anyone looking at this thread can try to help

Date 17th July 1887
Residence at time of there marriage: Harry = 120? Street, Middlesborough
Jane = 44 Banks Road Linthorpe
Fathers Philip Henry Whitham and Robert Taylor

 :)
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 21 October 08 08:03 BST (UK)
Well, I now remember doing this before and trying to prove that the little Allen shown in 1871 is in fact Harry - now knowing his father's name, I have no doubt anymore (brother Frank ties in as well) 

1871
RG10/4664 6 5
Sheffield Nether Hallam, Yorkshire

Philip H Whitham, head, 47, File Cutter, b. Yorkshire Ecclesfield
Susanna, wife, 47, b. do.
Clara, dau, 12, b. Walkley
Frank, son, 10, b. do.
Charles, son, 8, b. do.
Allen, son, 6, b. do.
Sydney, son, 3, b. do.

 :)
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 21 October 08 08:19 BST (UK)
Marriage
Philip Henry Whitham - Susanna Dixon
Mar 1844 Wortley 22 493

found here: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

 :)
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 21 October 08 08:26 BST (UK)
Both Philip Henry Witham and Susanna Dixon's christenings are on the IGI at www.familysearch.org

Shout if you have trouble finding them  :)

Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 21 October 08 08:33 BST (UK)
1841
HO107/1327/7 8 10
Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
Wheel

James Whitham, 50, File maker (in 1851, his age is 62, birthplace Ecclesfield)  Elizabeth, 50 (In 1851, she's 61, born Esslesfield)
William, 15
Phillip, 15
Frederick, 15
Elizabeth, 10
Charles, 10

All born in county.

(There are other Whithams in the vicinity)

Susanna isn't at home in 1841 but this should be her parents:

1841
HO107/1327 5 21 2
Ecclesfield, Yorkshire
Ecclesfield Common

Benjiman Dixon, 45, Carter (1851: age 58 born Ecclesfield, now a licensed Victualler)
Sarah, 40 (1851: age 53 born Sheffield Park)
Margaret, 17
Benjiman, 13
William, 11
Joseph, 5
Martha, 3
Elizabeth, 1
Title: Re: Whitham family
Post by: yorkshiremags1 on Tuesday 23 December 08 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I was just browsing the Whitham name whe I came across your post. It seems you are researching my family. I am a direct descendant of Phillip and Susanna comind down through his son Charles. Allen/Harry has always baffled me and what really interests me is the mention of Emily. Could this be my aunt? PLEASE get in touch