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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: XANDRA on Saturday 20 September 08 23:05 BST (UK)
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I am researching a History of St. Nathy's College in Ballaghadereen co Roscommon Ireland for the bicentenary in 2010 . We had two young teacher priests who volunteered to become Chaplains , in the first world war , Fr . Felix Burke and Fr. Michaels Louis Henry . Both returned and we have found our that Father Burke was with the 16th Division and was cited in reports for bravery . Any information about either but especially Father Henry would be wonderful .
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Hell Xandra,
I can find an index card for Fr Burke's Mention in Dispatches and it is cited in the London Gazette, Issue 29890, Page 251. It's only a one liner.
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London
I can't find a medal index card for either, so far. As officers, they would have to apply for their medals and may not have done so.
I haven't spotted their service records on the National Archives catalogue either.
Liverpool Annie is the Chaplain enthusiast :D
Phil
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I am researching a History of St. Nathy's College in Ballaghadereen co Roscommon Ireland for the bicentenary in 2010 . We had two young teacher priests who volunteered to become Chaplains , in the first world war , Fr . Felix Burke and Fr. Michaels Louis Henry . Both returned and we have found our that Father Burke was with the 16th Division and was cited in reports for bravery . Any information about either but especially Father Henry would be wonderful .
From the Army Lists....
Temporary Chaplains to the Forces:
Roman Catholic:
Burke, Rev. F. 18 Nov 1915
Henry, Rev. L. 15 May 1916
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Well I found one MIC !!
Medal card of Burke, Rev F
Army Chaplain's Department
Temporary Chaplain to the Forces 4th Class
Date
1914-1920
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04cs/
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Hello Annie :),
That's the Mentioned in Dispatches card that is on A***y as well. There's absolutely no information on it other than the Gazette date and page.
Phil :)
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Hi Phil !
My Oracle on GWF says it is strange that there a no medal index cards -
You'd have thought that these would exist even if the medals were never claimed by the 'officers' in question
I went through 648 MIC's for Temporary Chaplains .... theres about 2500 for "regular" Chaplains .... I'll go through them and see what I can find !! ::) ::)
See yer in a week !! :D
PS ........ I meant to say ... Nice find Fordy !! :D :D
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They really must be difficult to find .... ( if the one person I know who could find them - can't !! ) ......... ::) ::) apart from the Mentioned in Dispatches card for Burke - there doesn't appear to be medal cards or Service or Officers files for either and searching in the gazette is difficult also ! ..... but .......
Rev L Henry appears to have travelled to France 3.9.1917 and been demobilzed 25.2.1919
Rev F Burke appears to have travelled to Frnace 19.12.1915 and relinquished his commission 17.11.1918
(Information from Officer's Movement Records)
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Hi Folks ,
Greetings and on behalf of the Principal staff and my humble self from St. Nathy's many many thanks for the information .
xandra
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I have come across one local village historian who reported that Father Henry had disciplinary action taken against him , we would like to know if there are any documents to prove or disprove this and we would love to know which regiments that he served with . thanking you
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Hello Xandra,
If we could find his service record surviving at Kew, it would be in there, but I've drawn a blank with the catalogue so far. Many officers records were destroyed.
He may possibly have been court martialled, but it's a subject I no absolutely nothing about. Once again any records are at Kew.
Is this Fr Henry?
Pray For The Soul Of Very Rev. Michael LOUIS HENRY D.D. D. Ph Parish
Priest Of Straide Who Died 30 Dec. 1947 R.I.P. NON NOBIS DOMINE NON
NOBIS SED NOMINI TUO DA GLORIAM Ps XCIII IX
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~deesegenes/straide.htm (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~deesegenes/straide.htm)
Phil
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Are you sure it was Army disciplinary action ... and not the church ?
Some Irish Catholic Chaplains got into trouble with their Archbishops after they came home ... because of the "Troubles" and all things to do with the British Army etc !!
When I was being taught History in school we were taught some about the Easter Rising the War of Independence and the Civil War but practically nothing of the contribution made by Irishmen North and South to the First World War .... tensions ran pretty high when soldiers in uniform came home ... ( which is a whole other subject !! :-\ :-\ )
Tell us what your historian said exactly .......... some stories have an element of truth but are not always definitely right !! :)
It's also possible he wasn't with a particular regiment ... he was a Roman Catholic priest with the British Army !
Nice find Phil !! :)
PS This is a good site about Father Burke's 16th Division !!
http://freespace.virgin.net/sh.k/xvidiv.html
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Just off topic for a bit .... I wonder if you were the one that bought this ..... ?? :D
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04ef/
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Nice picture Annie , my office is second window on the left top story . This is only the front view , take a look at the college website we have posted loads of old photographs etc, and i get a mention too .It is really impressive. thanks for all the help on Father Henry. i think from what the man said he was court marshalled.
Now as well as that we bought in the 1890s an old army barracks , which had been built in 1798/99 it was occupied by militia who left after about the 100 years... it was then used as the OLD college until the new bit , in the photograph was built in 1916 . I wish I could trace the name of the regiment... I THINK THE Royal ????? the town is Ballaghadereen and at that time it was in Co MAYO and became part of Roscommon in 1898 .
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yes Forester ,
that is Father Henry , he had a double doctorate from Salamanca , and that is why he had the nickname DOC .wish I could fill the gap ..I am hoping to do a section in my book on the two world wars and very few people had ever known that these two men who lived out their lives quietly in a parish , had been through so much . thank you .