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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: tofgem on Tuesday 16 September 08 11:16 BST (UK)
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I have traced one of my ancestors to Cutcombe. He was resident together with two bothers and twenty other scholars in the School House, Cutcombe in 1851. Does anyone know anything about the school? I can find no reference to it. Was it a boarding school?
Any help gratefully accepted.
Tofgem
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In 1714 or 1729, the dates vary, a Richard Elsworth founded a parochial school in Cutcombe to educate up to sixty children.
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50911#s26
Stan
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Thanks Stan
I had tried the historical directories site this morning, but there were gremlins in the system and it would not show results beyond one page. Have just tried again after reading your post and have found the references. Thanks for your trouble. I've also found the Samuel Lewis reference.
Tofgem
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Hi
I went to the school and now I am a governor there.
My mum, Grandfather, Great grandfather and so on went there.
My Mother sits on the Elsworth foundation.
Who are you researching?
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Hello
I am researching the Gregory family of Tewkesbury. Emma Gregory born 1838 (Worcester) married Francis Chorley at Worcester Register Office in 1862. Francis is recorded on the census as being resident at Cutcombe School together with his brothers Robert and William in 1851. I believe that Francis was the son of Francis and Eliza Chorley who were farmers.
It has been suggested to me that Francis (born 1844) was the son of wealthy parents, hence his residence in a boarding school. Therefore I would like to find out what I can about the school around this time and possibly about Francis. He ended up as an ironmongers assistant in Tewkesbury.
Tofgem
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If Cutcombe School still exists it may be worth contacting them for they may hold the school attendance records and the like, if not the the local Ro would be the place to go
http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/
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Hello
I am researching the Gregory family of Tewkesbury. Emma Gregory born 1838 (Worcester) married Francis Chorley at Worcester Register Office in 1862. Francis is recorded on the census as being resident at Cutcombe School together with his brothers Robert and William in 1851. I believe that Francis was the son of Francis and Eliza Chorley who were farmers.
It has been suggested to me that Francis (born 1844) was the son of wealthy parents, hence his residence in a boarding school. Therefore I would like to find out what I can about the school around this time and possibly about Francis. He ended up as an ironmongers assistant in Tewkesbury.
Tofgem
Hi
Francis senior was relatively well off, a farmer employing agricultural labourers. But very unlikely he owned the farm.
I am not sure why the children were boarding, the farm they lived at was a walk away. It is about a mile from the school.
It was not how we commonly understand a boarding school, it has always just been a little village school.
My two boys go there.
I notice the schoolmaster was called Gregory. Any relation?
I will try and find out why they were boarding.
Tom
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Thanks Tom.
According to the 1851 census there were 23 students resident on the night of the census. I had thought that perhaps the farm was isolated and it was too far to travel to school, but you have flattened that theory. If it is possible I would be interested to find out why they were boarding.
I don't know of any connection with the teacher named Gregory. Emma Gregory's father was a boat builder from Tewkesbury living in Worcester until his eatly death at the age of 40. I haven't been able to trace his parents or siblings, but I doubt that they would have become teachers (but you never know!).
I also have no idea how a boatbuilder's daughter in Worcester (in service) met a farmer's son from Somerset. It appears that they lived in the Somerset / Devon area when they were first married as their first two children's births were registered in Exeter. They were married in Worcester with Emma having a Worcester address on the marriage certificate and Francis having an Exton address. His occupation was given as an ironmonger's assistant.
Strange, but I suppose I'll never know the reasons why.
Tofgem
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This is an aspect of family history I had not previously considered. Do school attendance registers still exist from the 18th Century?
My ancestors were in Cutcombe from at least the late 1600's to the 1800's. Some cousins may still be there now.
Family names include Baker, Willis, Herd, Chilcott, Burnell, Bryant, Pugsley and Ridler.
Richard Baker left home in 1783 at age 16 and ended up in South Devon but presumably he would have at some stage attended the school.
Derek Baker
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A quick question and hoping that someone can answer it.
Francis Chorley senior is described in the 1861 census as a landed proprietor. What does this mean?
Tofgem
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Landed Proprietor. In other words he owned land, or had an estate in land, and had a (usually exclusive) right or title to its use or disposal.
Stan
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Thanks Stan. That makes sense re the family.
Tofgem
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Thanks Stan. That makes sense re the family.
Tofgem
Yes. That is interesting, I wonder what he owned?
Where was Francis junior in 1861 ?
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I can find no record of Francis jnr in 1861, although he married in 1862 (in Worcester Register Office). His occupation was given as an ironmonger's assistant on his marriage certificate, but I do not have the certificate to know the address given. I assume he lived in the Somerset area as his first two children were registered in Exeter in 1864 and 1866. Of the three Chorley children in Cutcombe School in 1851 none were with their parents in 1861. Brother William appears to have gone to London as a draper's assistant, later to be a commercial traveller.
Francic snr's address in 1861 was St. James' Cottage, Saint Sidwell with his occupation as landed proprietor and in 1871 he was living in Salem Place St. Sidwell with his occupation as retired farmer.
Tofgem
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I can find no record of Francic jnr in 1861, although he married in 1862 (in Worcester Register Office). His occupation was given as an ironmonger's assistant on his marriage certificate, but I do not have the certificate to know the address given. I assume he lived in the Somerset area as his first two children were registered in Exeter in 1864 and 1866. Of the three Chorley children in Cutcombe School in 1851 none were with their parents in 1861. Brother William appears to have gone to London as a draper's assistant, later to be a commercial traveller.
Francic snr's address in 1861 was St. James' Cottage, Saint Sidwell with his occupation as landed proprietor and in 1871 he was living in Salem Place St. Sidwell with his occupation as retired farmer.
Tofgem
Hmmmm I wonder what it means?
I see there were others at the farm in 1861, if he had owned it you would have thought he would have passed it on to one of his sons.....!
Nothing wrong with being a drapers assistant but you know what I mean ! :-)
Or an ironmongers assistant!
Couriouser and couriouser !!
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I can find no record of Francic jnr in 1861, although he married in 1862 (in Worcester Register Office). His occupation was given as an ironmonger's assistant on his marriage certificate, but I do not have the certificate to know the address given. I assume he lived in the Somerset area as his first two children were registered in Exeter in 1864 and 1866. Of the three Chorley children in Cutcombe School in 1851 none were with their parents in 1861. Brother William appears to have gone to London as a draper's assistant, later to be a commercial traveller.
Francic snr's address in 1861 was St. James' Cottage, Saint Sidwell with his occupation as landed proprietor and in 1871 he was living in Salem Place St. Sidwell with his occupation as retired farmer.
Tofgem
Hey!
If you look in the Somerset Record Office online catalogue there is a record of 1801 deeds to William Chorley of Exton, Yeoman concerning Exton common.
Hope you are near Taunton !!!
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Sorry. Nowhere near Taunton. That's been the problem with all my family research. I don't live anywhere near my origins, even though my ancestors seem to have spread all over the country. I'll just have to make do with what I have found out already.
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Tofegm
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Sorry Tom
I forgot to thank you for looking. At least I can summise that the family owned some land at the beginning of the nineteenth century.
Tofgem
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Sorry. Nowhere near Taunton. That's been the problem with all my family research. I don't live anywhere near my origins, even though my ancestors seem to have spread all over the country. I'll just have to make do with what I have found out already.
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Tofegm
you can contact them through email as previously suggested
If Cutcombe School still exists it may be worth contacting them for they may hold the school attendance records and the like, if not the the local Ro would be the place to go
http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/
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Thanks Toni. I'll try that.
Tofgem