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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: claretnblue on Tuesday 16 September 08 08:05 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I'm trying to find the following births in and around Maghera:
Joseph Grey Mccombs - 1855
William John Mccombs - 1859
Mary Mccombs - 1863
These are the children of John Mccombs (born 1823) and Mary Grey (born 1831), married 1850 in Maghera. I'm also seeking their births too, no luck there either. From marriage cert they where both resident at Lurganagoose, parish of Termoneeny, Maghera. John Mccombs father was Thomas Mccombs (farmer) and Mary Grey father was Joseph Grey (labourer).
Can anyone help me find them in indexes or records, or point me in the right direction?
Cheers, Ed.
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Ed,
I cannot help with your query but I can give you a bit of info which you can stick at the back of your files. On 21 Dec. 1854 Daniel McComb (no s) from Lettermusk married Mary Jane Hutton from Ballyhargan in Dungiven Presbyterian Church. McComb(s) is an unusual name for the Dungiven area but it is 10 miles north of Maghera, however I have never come across the place Lettermusk.
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'Lettermusk' is probably Lettermuck townland in parish of Cumber Upper.
Civil registration of births in Ireland began in 1864 so the 3 McCoombs children will have no birth certificates. First place to check for church records would be the place their parents got married in (1850)- what is the name and denomination of the church?
No McCoombs (or any variation) show up in Lurganagoose in Griffith's Valuation (mid 1850s) but it's possible they didn't have any land.
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They migrated to County Durham, England sometime between 1863 and 1866. I have most of the information on them from Durham census's after 1866.
Although I found their marriage in 1850 on emerald ancestors website, and got details from them, there is no further information regards the family on that website.
marriage details i have state:
Married in the Parish Church Maghera, according to the rites & ceremonies of the united church of england & ireland, by licence, by me James Spencer Knox, 5 jul 1850.
this is a transcription i recieved from emerald ancestors website, so not sure.
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They were married in the Church of Ireland. The actual marriage certificate should list the names and occupations of both fathers.
Good news is that Maghera Church of Ireland records still exist and are on microfilm at both PRONI and Coleraine Library (possibly also LDS library as well):
Baptisms 1785-1860
Marriages 1798-1860
Burials 1813-1860
The post-1860 records are probably in local custody still. About 8 years ago a friend and I went to the rector in Maghera to look up some of her husband's family and the records we needed were 1880-1900ish.
Am very busy at the moment and will be away for a few days next week but if you don't get any further information by October send me a pm after 1st October to ask me to look up the church records and I'll put it only my list for Coleraine Library.
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Thanks
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Also the 1831 census is available for Maghera and area.
There maybe death records available - sometimes parents are buried with children which can share more information.
You can request a copy of the marriage certificate as previously mentioned which will give the names of the fathers and where they lived.
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Hi,
from the new 1911 census I have Joseph Grey McCombs (c1855) birthplace as Knockcloghrim, Co Derry, Ireland.
Does anyone know where he would have been baptised?
Eddie
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Hi,
from the new 1911 census I have Joseph Grey McCombs (c1855) birthplace as Knockcloghrim, Co Derry, Ireland.
Does anyone know where he would have been baptised?
Eddie
What religion was the family? Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Methodist, Catholic all in Knockloughrim area.
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Hi,
I believe they were Church of ireland.
Thanks Eddie
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Termoneeny Church of Ireland records (on 2 microfilms):
Baptisms 1821-1882
Marriages 1821-1838, 1845-1891
Burials 1833, 1846-1961
PRONI and Coleraine Library have the above records on microfilm but I can't see the 2 microfilms in LDS catalogue.
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Ok,
Thanks for that, cheers!
Is there anyway of accessing those records outside of Ireland? or are they only held in that location?
Do you know if there exist any census's from 1831-1861 from Knockcloghrim?
Cheers Eddie
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Early Irish census records were destroyed- 1901 is first one available for that area as far as I can find.
If LDS had copies of the records you could view them at your local LDS library but they don't have them listed in their catalogue so it looks like only available here in Northern Ireland.
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Ok, thanks.
I know the family moved from Northern Ireland to County Durham England between 1863 and 1865. Does anyone know any history of the Knockcloghrim area around then? did many people leave the area around that time or were this family unique in moving on? Just wonder why they moved to Sherburn Hill, County Durham, North East England of all places.
Cheers Eddie
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The history of Ireland is full of migrations and Co. Derry is no exception. I don't know of any particular movement between Knockloughrim area and Co. Durham in particular but suspect it might have been related to employment. I do know of several members of a family from the area who went to Newcastle area in 1860s but they were medical doctors who had first studied in America and then went to England after completing their studies.
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Ok, thanks.
Eddie
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Wouldn't this area be covered by the 1831 census fragments - Co Londonderry householders - available on microfilm at PRONI?
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Yes, of course, I'd forgotten Termoneeny is in 1831 fragments. Have searched but can't come up with any online transcriptions of it (Dunboe, for example, is one several sites).
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Termoneeny is available for the census of 1831.
The Public Records Office in Belfast have it in the microfilm search room.
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Sorry should have shared that the census is head of families, # of males and females and religion.
There was lots of immigration during the 1860's because although the famine did not hit Maghera as hard as some areas of Ireland, it was affected. The 1860's provided a few years of better crops, some of the linen factories went under in the 1860's so less work and less sales in flax. Someone correct me if I am wrong but since the land reforms was this not the time when leases ran out that tenants were being asked to buy their land?