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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cardiganshire => Wales => Cardiganshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Raver26 on Saturday 29 January 05 12:12 GMT (UK)
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Hi could you please look for a Margaret Evans, age about 9, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys, father's name was Thomas Evans, a Glazier.
Also John Jones, age 15, born in same village, father Roderick Jones, a Farmer.
Thanks a lot Dave
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Hi Dave. I hope this helps ...
1861 census
Llanbadarn Trefeglwys, Cardiganshire
Thomas Evans, head, married, 38, glazier, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Elizabeth Evans, wife, married, 46, born Llangeitho, Cardiganshire
Hugh Evans, son, 15, scholar, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Stephen Evans, son, 13, scholar, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Jane Evans, dau, 10, scholar, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Margaret Evans, dau, 8, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
John Evans, son, 5, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Anne Evans, dau, 3, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
I'm afraid I can't find a John Jones, son of Roderick, who is born in the same village.
Good luck!
Andy
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Thanks a lot for that Andy, I will pass it on to Dave when he gets back from his hols. 8)
John Jones and Margret Evans where our Great Grand Parents. They married in 1872, at Bethania but they were both living in Llan. Trefeglwys at the time. Any chance of a look up in the 1871 census? We have tried the 1881 but no sign of John Jones. ???
Regards Trevor
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1871 census
Llanbadarn Trefeglwys, Cardiganshire
Thomas Evans, head, mar, 48, glazier, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Elizabeth Evans, wife, mar, 52, born Llangeitho
Jane Evans, dau, unm, 21, dressmaker, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Margaret Evans, dau, unm, 19, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
John Evans, son, unm, 16, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
Anne Evans, dau, 14, born Llanbadarn Trefeglwys
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;D Thanks for that Andy, it confirms the 1861 entry.
As for John Jones, the only definite info we have is that he was born 1846 in Cardiganshire, father Roderick jones, a farmer. I expect that a search using just that would turn up too many hits, any ideas? ???
Trevor
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Hi Andy,we have got a bit further with our search for Rodrick Jones.
He has turned up in the 1871 census.
Rodrick Jones, 69, born Trefilan, Farmer, living in Nantcwlle with his wife Jane Jones, 67, no sign of any children though.
Could you please look in the 1861 census and see if they are in Nantcwlle? His age should be about 59 and there 2 children that we know of, John, age 15 and Evan.
Thanks
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Sorry Andy, made a spelling mistake. :-[
For Nantcwlle read Nantcwnlle
Regards
Dave
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Sorry, no Roderick Jones or Jane Jones in that village?
They still seem to be elusive.
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Thanks for that Andy, I am at a loss as to where to go next. I have tried the IGI but no luck there either. ???
Looks like the proverbial "brick wall" is on the horizon. :-\
Dave
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Andy, in desperation before I start banging my head against that brick wall and the men in white coats come to take me away, could you check the 1861 census to see if Roderick and Jane Jones are in the village of Trefilan where they were both born? I know it is a long shot but right now I can't think of anything else. ???
Thanks Dave
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Hi.
I just did a search on the 1861 census for Wales.
There wasn't one Roderick Jones born around 1802 in the whole of Wales!
I couldn't find the right Jane Jones either.
I don't know what to say. It seems to be one of life's cruel mysteries; no much you can do about it.
Andy
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Could well be that the particular area hasn't been transcribed and put online yet....
If you send an email request to Ceredigion library, they might lookup the 1851 census for you - the 51 is indexed, so it shouldn't cost anything. If you find them there, you should be able to work out where they might have been in 61.
D
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Hi Dave, is this any good from the 1841 census for Llanbadarn Trefeglwys.............
HO107/1373/5, Enumeration District 12, page5. Address: Crofswinter
All surnames Jones, all born in county
Roderick 35 Farmer
Jane 35
Mary 75 Ind
Evan 15
Sarah 13
Mary 11
Margaret 6
Roderick 4
Thomas 4mths
Hope this is the family you're looking for - John is yet to be born?
Cheers Dave
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Hi Dave, sorry I haven't got back to you sooner but I have been nursing a twisted knee for the last couple of weeks :'( and didn't feel like doing much on the family history front.
Yep, I think this is them all right, ;D as John was living at Crosswinter fach, in Llan Trefeg when he was married, in 1872. Also one of the witnesses was Evan Jones, his brother. He wouldn't have been listed in 1841 as he was born about 1846. 'though I have yet to find his birth certificate.
In the 1841 census does it say where abouts in Cardiganshire Roderick and Jane where Born ?
I haven't been able to pick them up in either the 1851 or 1861 census as yet but live in hopes.
Regards Dave
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Hey Dave,
Sorry about the knee.
Glad it's the right family, I know how difficult the Jones families can be! It look's as if Mary was Roderick's mother.
Unfortunately the 1841 census only says if a person was born in county or not, it does not go into great detail. I read the address as 'Crofswinter' which is close enough considering the quality of the transcription.
Cheers Dave
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Thanks Dave, it was just a long shot. Crofswinter could be written the old english way where the first s of a double s is like a f. I looked up Llan Trefeg on the Old Maps site to see if I could spot the farm, but no dice.
I will have to try and find John Jones's birth certificate. As there are 14 John Jones's list as being born in Cardiganshire in 1846 alone the GRO are not much help as they only check the first 6 when there are multiple entries. I will have to try and arrange a trip to Kew some time soon.
Happy hunting Dave
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Thanks a lot for that Andy, I will pass it on to Dave when he gets back from his hols. 8)
John Jones and Margret Evans where our Great Grand Parents. They married in 1872, at Bethania but they were both living in Llan. Trefeglwys at the time. Any chance of a look up in the 1871 census? We have tried the 1881 but no sign of John Jones. ???
Regards Trevor
Hello Raver 26,
I have only just discovered this site.
I realise this is nearly 4 years late (!) but looking at your signature we may well have a connection. A member of "my" Jones family married a Wartsky and they lived in Bethnal Green at the time of the 1901 Census.
Some of the other names you mention in your posts also tally with what I have learned thus far.
A general question please as this is my first post here.
Given that Raver 26 may well have disappeared from the site given the time lapse, is there anyway I can e mail him or my e mail address can be e mailed to him?