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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Herefordshire => Topic started by: kingpettey on Saturday 13 September 08 21:38 BST (UK)
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Noel Gordon
Family tell me Noel Gordon had an estate or large house down Ross way. Can anyone tell me were? The reason for asking is same as my last post – King brothers 1887 -1897 were gardeners of whom I’m trying to track down their place of work.
Thanks – Ray
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Hi if you look on google earth for ross on wye, then zoom in on the A40 towards monmouth and about 1/2 mile down the carriage way, where the river wye curves round close to the motorway is Noels old house, it a nursing home now, the part of ross is called weir end
good luck
regards Diana
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Diane
Thank you that’s a great help.
I can research this but do you know off hand when Noel first moved there as it was then that my relative left, so it’s said. And or name of Nursing Home now so I could write, it could well be some older folks may remember some details of my family?
The family story, true or not? A brother was head gardener before Noel arrived and it was his responsibility to plant given plants in the location best suited for them. However Noel insisted she should choose the location so he left
Ray
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Hi Ray, Sounds about right, it would have been in the 60s she was there. my mother and father knew her and we would go there as children. both my mother and father are dead now so I cant ask them, but if you give me a few days I will ask my Aunt what she knows
regards Diana
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Diane, thank you
In another post of mine: There was a William King Head Gardener to Capt. W F Campbell circa 1926 -1929. Location possibly Harewood. Can anyone throw some light on that please?
Regards
Ray
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Hi Ray,
Capt. W F Campbell I think but will have to check it out lived at Harewood End Manor now owned by the Duchess of Cornwall HRH the place was for a long time a smoking lab for beagles then with all the Animal Rights people closed it down it was then empty for along time, till it was taken by Prince Charles it was said that William would live there. if you look on google A49 from ross to Hereford look for Harewood the house is between harewood dot and the A49 road. it has a square building and church by the side.
Noeles house was called Weir End House and still is as I went by today I took a look, still waiting on Aunt for info. you may pick up some thing on the house by searching net but you may need to look for her under her full name Joan Noele Gorden, Weir End House was her mother home and Nolly would come back at weekends Nollys mums maiden name was Honey it that helps. You never know your Kings may turn up in some info somewhere. As they were such gardeners as Head they may well of put things into the Ross Horticultural show. I know they keep records but will have to find out who keeps them
Regards Diana
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Hi Diane, thanks again for your help and information.
The Ross Horticultural show is something that hadn’t even crossed my mind but perhaps should off as George King who moved to Birmingham won awards at local allotments as did his son (my dad).
Harewood is figuring highly in the King ancestry as George William King (1860), father of granddad George King and his brothers, was according to Kelly’s a sub-postmaster at Harewood end 1891 – 1926 and it seems at times was also a domestic gardener.
Regards
Ray
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Hi Ray
I am going into Ross today will pop in and see a few people, see if I can turn anything up for you. My father was a big gardener and the show was a very big part of life in Ross when I was a child. both my mother and farther were on the committee and it was run along side with the regatta on the river bank.
Regards Diana
PS the other thing you could try is writhing to Alan Woods he runs the web news on Ross the site is called wyenot, I have known him put in request for history info
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Hi Diane
Alan did place a request for me on the Ross site sometime back http://www.ross-on-wye.com/index.php?page=info_000Information_wanted
Sadly no reply.
Ray
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Hi Ray,
Ok got this from some old Ross folk today, but still have more people to get hold of. the Family were Deakin from 1911 to 1935 for sure was S H Deakin JP this I was told by the elderly sister of The Master of Hounds,
should know more tomorrow from RHS on prizes given
Regards Diana
ps Alan did place a request for me on the Ross site sometime back http://www.ross-on-wye.com/index.php?page=info_000Information_wanted
Your Bungalow is called Hill Top, Bridstow, Ross on Wye
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Hi Diane
Thank you, from being stuck I feel like I'm moving forward again.
I will write to the occupiers of the bungalow and see if can gain any moving into dates etc.
Ray
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I knew Noele Gordon as I too lived in Ross-on-Wye. Her grave is in Ross Churchyard alongside her mother. Often visited by many, it is easy to find.
Noele was a committed Christian and worshipped on a weekly basis in Ross Parish Church. Kind regards. John.
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My Grandfarther William King who lived at the bungalow Hilltop Bridstow was gardener at the the house that was owned by Noel Gordon. I am sure I can help with your search as I am still in contact with some of the King familly who are still living in Ross
Mike
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Hi Mike
Is this the same ancestry Siblings of George King 1892: Annie King 1885 - John king 1887 - Harriet King 1889 - Ellen King 1890 - Henry King 1894 - William King 1897 - Step brothers (Known) Frederick James King 1907 - Charles James King 1909 (All Pencoyd Ross)
As kids we used to be taken to Abergavenny and Ross (Uncle Bill?) We think this is the bungalow near Ross although there was another one.
http://king-family-history.blogspot.com/search/label/Ross
I'm trying to download photo of Uncle Bill but having problems so will post this then try again
Ray
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Uncle Bill
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Hi Ray
Thanks for the picture of my Grand parents and my dog at the time Sandy. Picture must have been taken in the mid sixties. Definitley the same familly. Do you rember my mother Karthleen.
I am still in contact with Joan who still lives next door to the cottage you used to visit. Through Joan I am still in contact with other members of the King familly, one of whom as also been working on the King familly tree.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
My sisters recall names far better than I so I will get in contact with them.
The name of Bill's wife – Amy?
Joan is a name mentioned by siblings. We thought Joan was a bus driver?
We're also aware(think) Bill and wife took a new born child in?
I know there is a cluster of King's in Ross, but unsure if they're related. I've tried unsuccessfully to contact them in the past via local Ross web site so your post is a very pleasant surprise.
I've traced ancestry back to George William King 1859 who was later sub post master. Further back to John King and it looks like his father was born at sea, but?. Males on King side tan easily, is that so your end?
If I send via private message my email address could you pass it on please and of course use it yourself if you so wish.
I'm now 65.
Nice to be contact with you.
Ray
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Hi Ray
The picture you sent me was of William (Bill)and Emily King my grandparents and they had one child Kathleen my mother. Unfortunately my mother passed away 2 years ago.
How this started was that Joan sent me a picture in the local Ross paper of the homeguard during WW2 and it include my grandfarther Bill. I decided to google Bill King at Ross and was shocked to find your postings and picture of their old bungalow.
Joan was adopted by auntie Nellie. She used to work as a bus conductress in the sixties. Joan is now 81.
I am Kathleen's son aged 52 living Gloucester. My e-mail address is (*).
I have spoken to Joan and she is trying to re call you. If you can provide the names of your parents etc she will no doudt rember you. She is very good at the names of all the different branches of the family.
As a coincidence I am just going to Ross to change the flowers on Emilly's grave which is in Bridstow Church just a field away from there old bungalow.
Mike
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Hi Mike,
What luck for me at least that WW2 photo came up, any chance of a copy via email or link to site please?
I've brief service details of George King service record if off interest
Uncle Geoff tells me 4 King brothers were gardeners?
As some are living relatives I've given names via email.
Sorry but my childhood memories are pretty scant, one reason why I wanted to do ancestry research in the hope as it does trigger some memories. Hopefully Joan and as you have can help there. I hasten to add any info I have Joan and yourself are most welcome to.
I've just had a quick chat with Roma and she can recall auntie Nellie – lived not far away down the lane? However like I she is unsure on where she fits in the relative table, can you help?
Sending email now.
Thanks
Ray