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Title: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: SueW on Saturday 29 January 05 08:06 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am looking for a child HARRY SPARROW BENCE ROE who was born in Lowestoft in 1847.  His unmarried mother died in 1850 and I can't find what happened to Harry until he turned up in Liverpool marrying a German girl called Frederika Geyer in 1870.

Can anyone check the Suffolk census for any sign of Harry.

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 29 January 05 08:45 GMT (UK)
1851 census in Norfolk

HO107/1814 Folio 370 Page 20
Bracondale Norwich
St Peters Southgate Norwich Norfolk


CHAMBERS ROE John Head 36 b Lowestoft Suffolk Commercial Traveller
CHAMBERS ROE Mary Wife 32 b Clenchwharton Norfolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE Emily Dau 11 b West Lynn Norfolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE Mary Dau 9 b Lynn Norfolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE Ellen Dau 8 b Lynn Regis Norfolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE Louisa Dau 5 b Brandon Suffolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE Anna Dau 2 b Brandon Southgate Suffolk At Home
CHAMBERS ROE John Son 1 b Brandon Suffolk At Home
WITTA Martha Servant 24 Unm b Brandon Suffolk House Maid
BUTTLE Elizabeth Servant 16 Unm b Trowse Millgate Norfolk House Maid

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 29 January 05 08:49 GMT (UK)
What Happened there I was following a list of these names Suffolk or mayb Norfolk....along with  nephew I didnt find in Norfolk...and now they disappeared  :-\ I wasnt dreamin was I  ???
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 29 January 05 08:59 GMT (UK)
Will wait to c if young Harry turns up in 1851 Suffolk b4 I start trawling Lowestoft in 1861....Too big to trawl without being pretty sure he is there....No index for 1861 census so do need to know just where to look.....Kris  ;)
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: SueW on Saturday 29 January 05 09:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks for doing the lookup so quick. You weren't dreaming!  I had put the message on the Norfolk and Suffolk boards as I wasn't sure where the family were.

I had a reply for the Norfolk topic so changed the Suffolk one to save anyone else having to do the lookup.  But you had beaten me to it.

I keep hoping that young Harry turns on the 1851 index but no luck so far.  But the name may be spelt incorrectly.  Or he was under the Sparrow or Bence name.  I don't know that it really matters where he was but I would just love to try and work out how he ended up in Liverpool married to a German girl.

Just part of the fun of family history!

Thanks again

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 29 January 05 09:26 GMT (UK)
LOL I Knew it was there I kept scrolling back and forth as I was typing it up comparing names and places of birth ..ages etc...then I posted and it was a totally diff message...Sat here scratching my head and thinking what happened here This is not the message I answered...Am I goin bonkers or what...LOL....Not to worry...Heres hoping young Harry turns up in the 51 index for Suffolk....As U say he gets around To end up married in Liverpool so really he could be anywhere I guess...As u say it would be nice to find who brought him up.....I have just solved a similar problem in my family ...mother died in childbirth but fortunately I had a good idea where to look and now am very pleased to finally know who brought her up......All The Best...If I c he is found in 51 Suffolk I will have a go at 61 for u Providing of course it is a small enough parish to trawl...Good Luck....Kris  :D
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: Rick on Wednesday 02 November 05 15:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue

I'm doing a spot of housekeeping and I wondered if you have managed to find Harry in 51 and 61?

Rick :)
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: SueW on Wednesday 02 November 05 19:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have found Harry in Shropshire in 1861 with his aunts but there is no sign of him in 1851.  I have found all his mother's siblings (I think) and he is not living with any of them.  I was hoping to find him living with his father (his mother never married) but no such luck.

He must have been around somewhere and I was just hoping for some confirmation of his father, as none was named on his birth certificate.

I just think I will have to give up on 1851.

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 17 November 05 11:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Sue

As I like a read...........you never mentioned who his mother was? or where she came from? and how old was she when she died in 1850?

Bryant
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: SueW on Thursday 17 November 05 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hello Bryant

Harry's mother was Harriet Elizabeth Roe and was christened in Lowestoft on 31/12/1819.  She never married.

I have found her on the 1841 census living with her family.  And found the family and various of her siblings in 1851.  But no sign of Harry in 1851.  I found him living with his aunt in Shropshire in 1861 and then married in Liverpool in 1871.

Just one of these family challanges that I keep digging at and I hoping that I get some proof about my theory about his father.

Regards

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 lookup please
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 17 November 05 15:31 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Sue

Have you thought about looking for a HENRY ROE in 1851 instead of Harry, it would have been rare for someone in the middle of the 19th century to be christianed Harry..........they might have been called Harry throughout their life but christianed Harry?.......real name Henry.......my father was one!
And even if he was christianed Harry? the enumerator when transposing might have automatically changed it to Henry (as all Harry's were Henry's).....if you get my drift.

1841
Back Street, Lowerstoft, Suffolk
Michael Roe  55 farmer
Rebecca  "     60
Emily       "     20  IND    (now whats that all about?)
Harriett   "     15
___________
*all born Suffolk*

Hope you find him
Bryant