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Title: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: obd on Tuesday 09 September 08 14:23 BST (UK)
My great grandfather Alfred Oakley was born in Lydbrook abt. 1846.
Does anybody have any info. about him ?

Thanks,
obd



Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 09 September 08 14:28 BST (UK)
what have you already got? e.g Have you found him in the censuses, have you found his birth ref, etc
Dont want to duplicate by looking for things you have already found
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: obd on Tuesday 09 September 08 14:34 BST (UK)
lizdb

Thanks for your reply.

The only info. I have is from the 1881 census when he was living in Kidwelly nr. Llanelly working as a tin man.
I've no idea when he moved or any of his parents.

Regards,
obd

Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: manx-kayt on Tuesday 09 September 08 14:54 BST (UK)
The Forest-of-Dean family history site (Parish Records) shows the following baptism on 14 Dec 1845.

Newland Parish
Alfred Oakly [sic]:  Occupation Miller
Father: Robert
Mother: Susanna [sic]
Residence: Redbrook  [Forest of Dean].

It's quite close to Lydbrook.  Would this fit the bill ???
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: obd on Tuesday 09 September 08 19:28 BST (UK)
manx-kayt

This could be them.

I have found info. elsewhere of a Rowland Oakley married to Susanna ????? (surname unknown).

Could you add to this ?

obd
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: manx-kayt on Wednesday 10 September 08 09:38 BST (UK)
obd

See 1891 Wales (Llanelly) census

RG12 4493 135 25

Globe Buildings Llanelly
Alfred Oakley Head M 45 Tinworker b. Redbrook Gloucs
Catherine Oakley Wife M 45 b. Kidwelly Car.
Elizabeth Oakley daur S 12 b. Llanelly Car.
Evan Oakley son S 10 b. Llanelly Car.
Sarah Oakley daur S 6 b. Llanelly Car.
William G Oakley son S 18months b. Llanelly Car

Hope that helps!  Good Luck.

manx-kayt
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 13:12 BST (UK)
1851

HO107 2444 61 8

Upper Redbrook, Newland, Glos

Susannah Oakley widow 37 Tin plate worker
William 20 son                         "
George 19 "                        "
Mary 13 dtr
Elizabeth 9 dtr
Alfred 5 son
Sarah Ann 2 dtr
all bn Newlands, Glos.

(different world, isnt it? Nowadays many women of 37 are just starting their families - and here is Susannah at 37 widowed with grown up children)
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 13:15 BST (UK)
1861
RG9 3980 79 11
Lower Redbrook, Newland

Susan 46 widow Tin plate worker
Elizabeth 18
Alfred 15
Sarah Ann 12
Thomas ? ? ? boarder, also tin plate worker
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 13:23 BST (UK)
Married a Welsh lass and moved over the border by 1871
RG10 5470 57 14

LadyStr?? Kinwelly

Alfred 25 Tin Man at TinWorks bn Glos Redbrook
Catherine 25 bn Kinwelly Carmarthen
Susan 3 wks     "

then you have 1881 (are you sure pl of birth is not Redbrook, rather than Lydbrook?) and 1891 above.
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: obd on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:03 BST (UK)
lizdb

The print I have from 1881 census (from Ancestry.com) definately states Lydbrook, Glos.
Does Lydbrook belong to the district of Redbrook ?

Thanks for the other info., pity we couldn't establish the maiden name of Susannah.

obd
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:17 BST (UK)
Just looked at the image for 1881 - I think my money would be on Redbrook rather than Lydbrook.
But as it is clearly the same family, and manx-kate found his christening anyway, it does not really matter!

Susanna's maiden name? havent got that far yet!!
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:24 BST (UK)
1841
HO107 365 5

Upper Redbrook Newlands Glos

Rowland 40 Miller
Susannah 28
William 10
George 9
Peter 7
Mary 3

Getting one of the children's birth certs will give Susannah's maiden name.
I was hoping to find Alfred's birth reg for you, but have not succeeded - will look for others
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:29 BST (UK)
Birth:
Oct/Nov/Dec 1842
Elizabeth oakley
Monmouth reg distr (covers newlands)
ref 26 75

Jul/Aug/Sep 1848
Sarah Ann Oakley
Monmouth
ref 26 89

either cert will give mother's maiden name
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: obd on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:31 BST (UK)
lizdb

Thanks, this is excellent


obd
Title: Re: Oakley from Lydbrook
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:34 BST (UK)
Death
(from FreeBMD, as were births, so easy to find!)

Rowland Oakley
Oct/Nov/Dec 1848
Monmouth reg dist

poor Susannah, husband died about same time youngest child born.