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Title: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Saturday 06 September 08 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Guys

I still haven't been able to find any information about George Rice Price Parry's birth / parents / siblings

I posted some information here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,269450.msg1537495.html#msg1537495

and tried the site suggested but didn't find anything. I've had a look through Pigots Trade Directory for 1823 and couldn't find any Parry's.

I've got him on Census' for 1841 & 1851 in Wales - Living in Holywell; Occupation Tailor. In 1861 he's in the Workhouse at St. Asaph. In 1871 he's living in a boarding house in Bradford; Occupation Tailor.

In all these returns he states he was born on the Isle of Man but I can't find any evidence of this.

Its a major brickwall that I'd love to topple so any help would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: joyce341 on Saturday 06 September 08 21:22 BST (UK)
do you know that someone is doing a one name surname for Parry.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/im.griffiths/parryfamilyhistory/parryhome.htm

joyce
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Voirrey M on Saturday 06 September 08 22:46 BST (UK)
Have   you   eliminated          George    Isaac   Pary     bapt.    13   May   1810   at    St    Mathew's   C  of  E

Douglas   IOM    parents   John   Pary   /    Margt.  Clarke.  ???   Very  few   Parrys   ever   in  IOM.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Sunday 07 September 08 12:18 BST (UK)
Joyce, thanks for that I'll get in touch and see what info we can swop - have a large parry family!

Voirrey - i have seen the entry on the LDS website but I don't think its the right George. Throughout the records george referrs to himself as Rice Price Parry and Isaac doesn't feature in any of his offspring's names either.

Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Frances_mnb on Sunday 07 September 08 13:35 BST (UK)
Is he possibly Catholic ? - the name Rice is often Catholic and there was a Rice family in Peel - see http://www.manxnotebook.com/towns/peel/rice.htm - if so then Catholic records don't seem to exist for that period - see http://www.manxnotebook.com/parishes/rcath/rc_bapts.htm for some recorded in Dublin which have a Rice family member as sponsor
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Frances_mnb on Sunday 07 September 08 19:14 BST (UK)
Have   you   eliminated          George    Isaac   Pary     bapt.    13   May   1810   at    St    Mathew's   C  of  E

Douglas   IOM    parents   John   Pary   /    Margt.  Clarke.  ???   Very  few   Parrys   ever   in  IOM.
I think you will find this is Pavey not Pary - and also I think he is buried Braddan 18100928
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Monday 08 September 08 09:35 BST (UK)
All of the family marriages / baptisms / burriels are carried out by the Parish Church in Mold - this is Church of Wales and Christian.

....and here was me thinking that Rice Price Parry is rather uncommon so would be easy to track......silly me!    :-\

Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Frances_mnb on Monday 08 September 08 09:48 BST (UK)
I understand that Roman Catholics consider themselves Christian (having possibly some 1500 years prior claim than the Church in Wales? (they disestablished many years ago so no longer 'of') ) - however it is not that unusual for a male to defer to his wife's wishes in religion.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Tuesday 09 September 08 17:17 BST (UK)
Religion confuses me and I certainly can't follow all the twists and turns of the family........


So.... if there were very very few Parry's on the Isle of Man maybe he wasn't born there - could he have been born elsewhere (say Ireland) and gone to the Isle of Man as a very young child? Does anyone know how common the Parry surname was over the water?

....thinking via posts now, he's got be going round in circles - seriously thanks for all your help so far.  :D
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Voirrey M on Tuesday 09 September 08 18:10 BST (UK)
The  census   entries  for  Scotland ,  England   &   Wales  show   many   Parrys  born  in  all   regions  of

Ireland.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Tuesday 30 September 08 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Again

Im still having no luck so have gone back to what i do know from census returns and he doesn't give his year of birth consistency...they are as follows

1841 Wales Census = 1816
1851 Wales Census = 1813
1861 Wales Census = 1810
1871 England Census = 1805

Do you know of any Parry's on the Island between these times?? *clutching at straws*

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Voirrey M on Tuesday 30 September 08 20:01 BST (UK)
Go   to   www.iomfhs.im                                                  Click  on    RESEARCH  on   home   page   &  you

can  search  for   Parrys   there.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Tuesday 30 September 08 20:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Voirrey, i've already looked there ... but the entries are too late.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Voirrey M on Tuesday 30 September 08 22:33 BST (UK)
Parry  was   a  very  unusual  surname  here. A  simple  surname  search  in  1841   shows  one  15  yr.  old
servant/  1851   a  female   headteacher  &   2   female   Parrys  &   1861   only  one --  a   Charles   Parry
age  20 /  a  lodger  / in   Castle  Street ,  Peel  town  in  German  parish/   a   slate   quarrier  born   Wales  along   with   2   other  Welsh  colleagues.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Frances_mnb on Wednesday 01 October 08 09:23 BST (UK)
I have 9 parry's and one perry (I wouldn't try to distinguish them given Manx prononciation) in the 1841c (tho one - benjamin ) was I think counted twice - family of james perry + judith quirk in Peel + that of Saml Perry + ann morrison in German  (tho saml wasn't at home that night) + the couple of odd ones (eleanor welsh born servant)
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Moragdon on Thursday 04 April 19 22:11 BST (UK)
Just been reading around as I’ve been looking for Parry in Holyhead, after reading this thread I noticed on the next page to my find on Probates, that’s there is a reference to a John Parry and his probate/will of 27 August 1860, late of the Isle of Man in the parish of Llanfaethle, Anglesey. Farmer deceased who died about 7 March 1860 on the Isle of Man. Will granted at Bangor to Mary Parry (Widow the relict) of Isle of Man..etc.

I hope this might be some use in attaching some Anglesey Parry’s to the Isle of Man Parry’s you search for.
Title: Re: Completely Stuck - Please Help
Post by: Lazylover on Friday 05 April 19 08:06 BST (UK)
Thanks, I'll check it out.

Carole