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Title: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: philip2012 on Saturday 06 September 08 15:40 BST (UK)
Hi all

I've been trying to find out when my Great Grandfather died but so far have had no luck. I wonder it someone could help?

His name was Thomas Henry Niblock and I know that he was born in Templecorran, Larne, in 1878. He must have left there because he married Victoria Eveline Radcliffe in 1905 in Banbridge, Down. They had only one child, Kathleen Florence Niblock born in 1906. She was my Grandmother and, as far as we know, did not remember her father. So I presume he died not long after her birth. But I've found nothing.

If anyone is able to help I'd love to hear from you.

Many thanks

Phil
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: silvery on Saturday 06 September 08 16:31 BST (UK)
Have you tried the Latter Day Saints (LDS) Family History Centres?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp

The larger of these have the microfiches of BMDs for Ireland.   Give  your nearest one a ring, and see what they say.   I know Liverpool has them, as I phoned last week.

Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 06 September 08 20:15 BST (UK)
I have a Niblock connection to my Ancestors, Charles Niblock married a sister of my g-g-grandmother around 1900 in Dublin City, as far as I remember his father was a Johnstone Niblock from Co. Cavan.

not sure theres any connection - but I dont come across many Niblocks!


Shane
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 06 September 08 21:09 BST (UK)
Suggest you check 2 places on PRONI website for Thomas Henry Niblock.
1. Will extracts- go up to 1900s. If he's listed you'll get date of death and a few other bits of information.
2. 1912 Ulster Covenant if you think he or wife would have signed it which should give you an address.

Have had trouble (AGAIN) with PRONI so just keep trying until they fix it.
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: philip2012 on Sunday 07 September 08 11:17 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone for your suggestions.

Silvery: I haven't tried the LDS Family History Centres - I'll certainly give the a call as you suggest, though a search of the LDS website has revealed only his birth.

Shanew147: You're right - there aren't a lot of Niblocks around. I've found a cluster in Islandmagee near Larne and I believe there is a family of Niblocks still living there. My ancestors came from Templecorran, which is actually very close to Islandmagee, so there is probably a connection, and I think the family may originally have originated from Scotland. We have no records of a Dublin connection, though.

Aghadewy: Thanks for the suggestion. I've searched the Covenant records and didn't find him, though I did find his father-in-law's signature and since the Covenant was signed in 1912, I suppose it is possible Thomas had already died by that time. No luck on the Will extracts either.

Once again, thank you all for your help and suggestions.

Phil
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: maryd on Sunday 07 September 08 21:59 BST (UK)
Hi

I recall a family named Niblock living in the Sunnyhill area of Whitehaven, Cumbria, in early 1970s - I believe they went to Australia - I think dad was 'Jim'?? They owned a corner shop, I believe....I think I may have an old letter from them...will take a look

Mary
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Sunday 14 September 08 07:46 BST (UK)
Phil, I had a wee look around, so your Great  Great Grandfather was James Niblock

from familysearch.com
Thomas Henry Niblock Pedigree
Birth:  23 DEC 1878   , Antrim, Ireland
Parents:
Father:  James Niblock  Family
Mother:  Jane Mc Kee Niblock

from Ulster Historical Foundation  a wrong Niblock death is
NIBLOCK THOMAS 1901 Shankill Belfast City, Co. Antrim

from ancestryireland.com a wrong Niblock death is
1903 Thomas Niblock  Monaghan

from across the water some wrong deaths but in case they get interesting later www.freebmd.org.uk
Deaths Jun 1873   (>99%)
Niblock  Thomas Henry  1  Liverpool  8b
Deaths Mar 1879   (>99%)
Niblock  Thomas Henry  1  W. Derby  8b 480

so sorry, good luck onwards, Jim
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: philip2012 on Sunday 14 September 08 09:37 BST (UK)
Mary and Jim

Thank you both for your suggestions. I had fond those Thomas Henry's and I do know that my THB never came to England, it was his daughter, my Gran who came over in the early '40s. But thank you both anyway.

Regards

Phil
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: TF13 on Monday 15 September 08 13:06 BST (UK)
hi,

i got a promotional leaflet with the post this morning for an online takeaway ordering service and was having a nosey at it when i noticed a
------ niblock had won the summer prize draw for ordering from a restaurant in newry! so there are some niblocks in county down :)

tony
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: swerv72 on Friday 29 January 10 02:54 GMT (UK)
hi,

i got a promotional leaflet with the post this morning for an online takeaway ordering service and was having a nosey at it when i noticed a
------ niblock had won the summer prize draw for ordering from a restaurant in newry! so there are some niblocks in county down :)

tony
;D yes that was me won a wii from nifty nosh ,,, there is quite aa few niblocks around here in the newry area,, my father had 4 brothers an 5 sisters in his family good luck, you need any more info let us no
Title: Re: When did my Great Grandad die?
Post by: DJLee on Friday 05 February 10 17:08 GMT (UK)
Hi all

I've been trying to find out when my Great Grandfather died but so far have had no luck. I wonder it someone could help?

His name was Thomas Henry Niblock and I know that he was born in Templecorran, Larne, in 1878. He must have left there because he married Victoria Eveline Radcliffe in 1905 in Banbridge, Down. They had only one child, Kathleen Florence Niblock born in 1906. She was my Grandmother and, as far as we know, did not remember her father. So I presume he died not long after her birth. But I've found nothing.

If anyone is able to help I'd love to hear from you.

Many thanks

Phil


Hi Phil,
On the night of the 1911 Irish census there was a Kathleen Florence Niblock (aged 4) at 2 Mountain View Terrace Banbridge.

Here's the list of people at that address on census night:
Samuel Archer Radcliffe       Head of family   (aged 66)    Married  35 years   6 children born alive  5 still living
Sophia Radcliffe                    Wife               (aged 70)
Clara Sophia Radcliffe         Daughter           (aged 30)   single
Kathleen Florence Niblock   Grand daughter   (aged 4)


Samuel Archer Radcliffe married Sophia Douglas in 1874
I have found 5 of their 6 children:
Margaret Florence    B 1875
John Alexander        B 1877
Louisa Jane             B 1878
Victoria Eveline        B 1881
William Leslie           B 1883

I cant find any trace of Thomas Henry Niblock or Victoria Eveline on the 1911 Irish census.  Could they both have been dead?

You probably have all these details already but if you want all the wedding details on S A Radcliffe / Sophia Douglas marriage or the children's birth details let me know.

I also found wedding details of 3 of Victoria Eveline's siblings.

regards
Dave