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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: Georgfriedrich on Sunday 31 August 08 14:22 BST (UK)
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Hallo,
I am looking for the parents of George Manning Rees and Martha Llewelyn. I 'beleive' that Martha's parents were Thomas and Mary but I cannot be certain. As for George, it is said that his parents were David and Ann but once again I cannot be sure. Martha was born in c.1818 and George in c.1802.
While I know of their children (including Martha's daughter Emmaline) I do not know about any siblings they might have had either so any help or extra information will be great! ;D
I should add that they lived in Fishguard but that Martha came from Dale
Thank you
Kirk
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there's a baptism of the IGI that looks likely for Martha - batch C081001 for Dale
Martha Llewhelin bp 22/2/1819 daughter of Thomas & Mary.
No siblings for her in the same batch.
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Well, there is a baptism for a George Manning Rees in St Martin's, Haverfordwest son of William & Mary , but it's 27/7/1828 so probably not likely.
Also this one in St Mary's, Haverfordwest batch C081081
George son of David Rees & Ann, born 2/12/1802 baptised 29/1/1807
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Hello both :)
If it ties in.... possible marriage:
Thomas Llewhelin (fisherman) - Mary Hall (widow) married 1 Nov 1817, Dale, Pembroke
Cas
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Cas, can you see any sign of George & Martha's marriage? It's not on my disc, so I assumed sept qtr 1837 on. They're on the 1841 with baby Emmaline. Several Martha Llewellyns or variants, but none on the same page as a George Rees, that I can see.
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Just had a quick look, but if you cannot find them ???
Nothing coming up for me either, gotta Martha Rees/George Rees in 1840 but nothing to match Llewhelin or varient
Cas :-\
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thanks for looking, Cas.
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Thanks everyone for all that information!
That marriage information looks good to me as for some reason I know that Thomas Llewelyn was a fisherman.
I am going to do a bit of delving based on that info.
Cheers
kirk
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Hello. I have just noticed that you are researching the person that I think may be the father of my gggrandfather, James Lee Rees. If you look at my topic (Rees, James Lee b.1830 Pembrokeshire) you'll see that both James and my great grandfather had "Lee" for a middle name. I know my gggrandfather's father was called George (from a marriage certificate) and that he was a watch maker. What does not ring clear is why James is not included with the family in 1841. George and Marth are 15 years apart in age. Do you know whether George had a first wife who gave birth to James (plus possibly other siblings) and that she might have died and this wife's parents brought up the children? It's the only conclusion I can reach.
James ???
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Kirk,
I have sent you a message.
I am a descendant from George Manning's oldest brother John.
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I'm just back from a visit to west Wales and while waiting for a bus in Fishguard, I wandered around the churchyard looking at the stones (as you do ::) ) and a name leapt out at me - one George Manning Rees. It reads
Sacred to the memory of George Manning Rees of Lower Fishguard Watchmaker who died April 19th 1875 aged 72 years.
Also Margaret Hall Seddon daughter of the above and relict of the late William Seddon of Everton Liverpool who died November 16th 1872 aged 21 years
death reg
Margaret Hall Seddon 21 dec qtr 1872 Haverfordwest vol 11a pg 615
marriage reg dec qtr 1871 West Derby vol 8b pg 610
The stone no longer marks a grave, if it ever did. It's leaning against a fence as are most of the stones in the churchyard. This should be picture 7.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/sites/inpictures/pages/fishguard.shtml?7
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Osprey
Well spotted! and thanks for bringing to our attention.
James
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Thank you Osprey. You are certainly very helpful, not just to me but many others. The researcher Georgfriedrick, like you, has just spent some time in Fishguard and he also took some photographs of Fishguard, which he forwarded. JamesBust, I will need to share with you as well.
Osprey, I have posted another message under Martha Rees.
Once again, thank you for thinking of us as you walked through St. Mary's. It must be time for me to return to your beautiful country. This time, I will be armed with a far greater depth of knowledge.
Keith Rees Aus
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only wish I could find my own lot so easily. Perhaps the secret is not to be looking, just strolling in the sun.
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Hi! I'm a Lower Fishguard girl by birth & still live close by. It was great to see that you have 'George Manning Rees of Lower Fishguard Watchmaker' as your ancestor. I'm doing a bit of research for data & old photos of the village & would love to swap any information that you may be interested in ??
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Thank you HHughes for your comment and interest.
I am only too happy to forward some information on George Manning Rees, for your project on locals of Fishguard.
You may come across more information on GM, which may in turn be of assistance to us.
Keith
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To Osprey
I was just re-reading your notes, and I now realize the relevance of your find of George Manning Rees, born to William and Mary bp St. Martins 27/7/1828.
I had previously had only Manning c1829 as the second child to Lt. William Lee Rees and Mary Pocock, as that was the name only supplied to me, and Lt. William was back in uniform 21 June 1828 aboard HM Victory based at Portsmouth.
One present Haverfordwest site acknowledges his older brother William Gilbert Rees for his pioneering work in New Zealand.
Keith
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I believe that George was the youngest of 5 to David Rees & wife Joan (?). It is rumoured that George was the result of a liaison between David and their housemaid. This resulted in family disagreements regarding his share of the inhertience :o
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As this is a public forum, and there are a number of people who have shown an interest in George Manning Rees, I would like to add a number of facts, which may assist me in resolving some issues with this family, that being my aim:
* a recently located Will of David Rees of Haverfordwest, innkeeper, and dated 8th. Sept 1979, clearly names his mother as Joan; and was bequeathing his sister-in-law Ann Lee, spinster, and mother-in-law Mary Lee money and silverware. It also names his two sons (to wife Mary Lee m. 5 May 1791 St. Pauls Covent Gardens, Westminster) John Rees and William Rees; and that David Rees has sisters and brothers;
* the next child Sarah Ann Rees (Mrs. Rev. James Hughes Thomas) claims on subsequent Census documents that she was born c1799 Gloster, Gloucester; followed by James Rees (b. 17 Sep 1800 Haverfordwest); Mary Rees (Mrs. George Pocock Jnr.) (b. 2 Sep 1801 Haverfordwest); and George Manning Rees (b. 2 Dec 1802). I have no birth or baptism date for Sarah Ann Rees. Thus, six known children.
* there is no evidence as yet showing a second and third official marriage for David Rees, formerly of the Castle Inn, Haverfordwest; and then in 1837 of Derby Farm, Trenwydd, Merlin's Hill, Watford lands; and Green Hill properties (the "housemaids" could easily be Ann Lee (I believe illegal at that time to marry your wife's sister) and the widow Ann Green of the neighbouring property - Green Hill, later owned by David Rees at the time of his death in 1837)
* The Last Will of David Rees (1837) clearly named six children who were bequeathed money.
* An annotation was made on 17 June 1842 to Mary Pocock and Sarah Thomas, (above two daughters) but as yet I have not viewed its content, and would dearly like to trace it down.
Keith Aust
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Hi Keith
Thanks for the update. I stand corrected, David Rees fathered 6 children. From the information that i have gathered I believe that Mary Lee married David at St Pauls Covent Garden in 1791 (why so far from Haverfordwest, i am not sure). Mary gave birth to John c. 1792, William c. 1793, and James c. 1795 - the same year that she died at St Martins Haverfordwest. Subsequently Sarah (b. 1812), Mary (b. 1814), & George (b. 1815) must have had a different mother. It was not unusual in those times for a man to marry his sister-in-law upon the death of his wife (i will check into the legality of a widower marrying his sister-in-law, as per your comment), and i believe that he later married Ann Lee (although i am yet to find proof of this, it seems to fit the timeframes). As for George's birth mother, the name Green is ringing some bells (more investigation required). I also believe that it was Mary & Sarah who contested George's share of the estate, some of which was also driven by the two marriages with the Pocock twins George & Mary.
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Thank you AJ.
Some of the information that you have mentioned was published in 1991 and is now out of date. If my private email address came through to you, then drop me a line and I will be more than happy to fill you in on the latest developments, and may be you might be able to work with me on finding out more.
You may have to post 5 messages before you are able to use the personal message icon. I am not sure.
Keith
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deceased_Wife%27s_Sister%27s_Marriage_Act_1907
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Many thanks Osprey. The act makes interseting reading, 95% of which negates my thinking, but stlll leaving the option open under ecclesiastical law. Once again i will need to do deeper research into Sarah, Mary & George's maternal parent.
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To interested readers:
My apologies:
a recently located Will of David Rees of Haverfordwest, innkeeper, and dated 8th. Sept 1979
should read dated: 8th. Sept 1797
Thank you Osprey for you reference: re marrying one's sister-in-law
Thus, it is highly likely that we will not find a marriage of David Rees and Ann Lee. This may account for why three chn were not baptised until 1807 and at St. Mary's Haverfordwest until after she died. It is probably going to be difficult to find a marriage for widow Ann Green of the neighbouring property post 1810. Maybe we should look for when he purchased the Green Hill farm, adjacent to his Derby Farm at Haroldstone, St. Issels.
Keith
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One more ask, if I may ........
Thank you very much for the birth of George Rees 2/12/1802 and bap 29/1/1807 son of David Rees and Ann. Batch C081081 - St. Mary's Haverfordwest; I believe this record also gives his siblings James and Mary Rees baptised on the same day but not the only other sibling Sarah Ann Rees c1789-90 that we do not have a baptism for.
In later Census data, Sarah (Mrs. Rev. James Hughes Thomas) claims her second name to be Ann and that she was born in Gloster, Gloucestershire. A Will of 1797, indicates that Ann Lee is in the house looking after the first two infant chn of her deceased sister Mary Lee (Mrs. David Rees).
I am still looking for proof that Ann Lee, the sister of Mary Lee is David Rees' wife or just partner and house keeper, and that they didn't marry, because she was his wife's sister.
I am 99.9% sure that she is the mother, as the names of George Manning Rees' chn strongly suggest that Ann Lee was his mother:
James Lee Rees; William Manning Lee Rees; David Lee Rees; Rhys Llewellyn Rees; Thomas Lee Rees; and Anne Lee Rees; among others.
For those interested, I have just located descendants of the son of George Manning Rees - Thomas Henry Rees, living in Port Talbot, Wales, so I hope that these descendants may also have some answers!
Keith Rees Aus
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Not sure if its been mention there is a baptism of a George Manning Rees at Fishguard in 1848.
I also note the baptism of
Ann Lee Rees at Fishguard in 1863.
David Lee Rees at Fishguard in 1856 and
Thomas Lee Rees at Fishguard in 1856, who just possibly mrd in Swansea area circa 1879.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Thank you Orielbenfo
George Manning Rees Junior was baptised 5 Mar 1848, Fishguard but born 28 Sep 1848;
David Lee Rees and his brother Thomas Lee Rees were baptised in 1856 as you confirmed; however, have you discovered another child -
I had their last child Anne Lee Rees b. Dec Q 1862; baptised 15 March, 1862 Fishguard - therefore, I could I have some more details of the Ann Lee Rees baptised in 1863. as the first Ann Lee Rees could have died and they tried again.
Orielbenfo, next time you happen to go to Haverfordwest, (St. Martins)and if it it not too much trouble, could you check to see if what the records say for Mary Rees (nee Lee) who died 1795, St. Martins and who I think is her sister Ann Rees (nee Lee) buried 14 October 1804 St. Martins.
But then, if she was buried at St. Martins, why were 3 of her chn baptised at St. Mary's 29 Jan 1807, or have the wrong Ann Rees and should be looking for Ann Lee buried in Haverfordwest - not technically David's wife.
I hope I am not annoying you, but the thrill of finding more distant relatives who remained in Wales, like two weeks ago in Port Talbot, is certainly exciting, not only for me, but these Welsh relatives.
Regards
Keith Rees Aus
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I had their last child Anne Lee Rees b. Dec Q 1862; baptised 15 March, 1862 Fishguard - therefore, I could I have some more details of the Ann Lee Rees baptised in 1863. as the first Ann Lee Rees could have died and they tried again.
Keith
Birth had to be registered(in theory) within 6 weeks of the event by law. Baptism was by choice at any time and age in any faith after the birth. I have never heard of baptism taking place upto 9 months prior to the registration of a birth, therefore may I suggest that the date you have of 15 March 1862 should in fact read 15 March 1863 ~ everything then falls into place. Furthermore all records appear to show there is no further birth/baptism of an Annie Lee Rees pre 1862/3.
what the records say for Mary Rees (nee Lee) who died 1795, St. Martins and who I think is her sister Ann Rees (nee Lee) buried 14 October 1804 St. Martins
You appear to suggest that Mary Lee and Ann Lee each mrd a Mr (?) Rees after all nee' denotes maiden name before mrge. Whilst I have come across a reference to the mrge of a Michael Lee at Huberston in 1787 to Martha Phillips I have not seen any reference to the mrge's of Ann & Mary Lee to anyone with surname Rees. Am I confused?
The burial entries you seek will only show e.g. Mary Rees buried (date given), for circa 1795 no other info will appear. That said if you are very very lucky and they where of very old age it might give age and if very well to do "wife of ......." but its rare.
Please understand St Thomas, St Martin & St Mary are each within a couple of streets of each other if a family lived in parish of St Thomas then they baptised children there, if they moved and lived in St Mary they baptised children there.
Likewise please be aware the published parish of abode at mrge of bride or groom post 1837 only denotes that either or both have resided in that parish for the minimum of 6 weeks and has absolutely no bearing on the parish of birth/baptism. In many cases the parish of baptism and mrge might well be the same, in just as many cases they are not.
I wonder if you are confusing the requirements by law post Sept 1837 of Birth, Mrge and Death registration, with peoples choice as to whether or how a baptism or burial is carried out?
I will investigate the burial of the two mrd ladies you indicate, Mrs Mary Rees and Mrs Ann Rees on a future visit.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Thank you Orielbenfro for your explanations of requirements of births and baptisms.
David Rees married Mary Lee 5 May 1791 St. Paul Covent Gardens, Westminster (both of that Parish).
Children:
John Rees b. 13 Feb 1793 Haverfordwest bp. .................
(and wife Martha Tomkins of London - solicitor of Pembroke area)
William Lee Rees b. 17 Aug 1793 Haverfordwest bp. 3 Jun 1795 St. Martins
(later Lt. W.L. Rees and Elizabeth Pocock , teacher of Bristol)
Mary Rees died 1795 St. Martins Haverfordwest
Darft Will 8 Sep 1797 David Rees of Haverfodwest, innkeeper, leaving estate for sons John and William in trust until they turn 21; money to his sister-in-law Ann Lee spinster, mother Joan Rees and mother-in-law Mary Lee, and rest to brothers and sisters, thus inferring that Ann Lee and her mother is now looking after the young boys.
Early 1800s David Rees is innkeeper of Castle Inn Haverfordwest and a farmer, also linked to West Barners Inn.
His next children are:
Sarah Ann Rees b. 1798/99 Gloster, Gloucestershire (Later Census details of Sarah Thomas or Mrs. Rev. James Hughes Thomas, her husband)
James Lee Rees b. 17 Sep 1800 Haverfordwest bp. 29 Jan 1807 St. Marys
(Dr. James Lee Rees and Mary Pocock of Bristol)
Mary Rees b. 2 Sep 1801 Haverfordwest bp. 29 Jan 1807 St. Marys
(Mrs. George Pocock Junior, school teachers of Bristol)
George Manning Rees b. 2 Dec 1802 Haverfordwest bp. 29 Jan 1807 St. Marys
(watchmaker of Fishguard)
Ann Rees buried 14 Oct 1804 St. Martins.
David Rees lease owns properties of Dredgmans Hill, Woodbine Cottage, Derby Farm, Greenhills - all neighbouring properties
Brother John Rees (later of Westbury Hill farm - you helped me before) also leased Westfields, which my map shows also borders Woodbine Cottage.
Thus, I have no proof that Ann Lee, his sister-in-law becomes the mother of his children No.s 3 to 6, only assumption, as many of their descendants have the Lee as a middle name.
Regards,
Keith Rees
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Ann Rees buried 14 Oct 1804 St. Martins.
Keith
Sorry to disapoint there is no Ann Rees buried at St Martins 1804. I searched today.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Is the Ann Lee Rees buried at Johnston in 1834 part of your research?
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Thank you very much for looking Oriel
My date for a burial for Ann Rees and Mary Lee (I was hoping her mother) was based on this very hard to read extract.
I was kind of hoping that it was actually confirmed to be St. Martin's and /or that it would give me more evidence.
I appreciate you effort and willingness to help.
I have just been notified from a "new relation" from near Port Talbot, that her elderly aunty has lived in Fishguard for the last 30 years, and her Aunty Joyce didn't know that her grandfather George Manning Rees was a jeweller in Fishguard, as well. They had no idea that "we" had gone to the Colonies. So, I have now found some very excited people, and we hope, also become interested in genealogy.
One step backwards, and two steps forward.
Your assistance is much appreciated.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Keith Rees Aus
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What about the 1834 Ann Lee Rees burial at Johnston ?
Would I be on the right track believeing that William Rees married Mary Evans of H'west St Martin at H'west St Mary on the 29th Oct 1822? Are these the parents you expect of George Manning Rees baptised at H'west St Martin 1828.
I'm going back to the Rec Off this morning to recheck my sources.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Hi Orielbenfro
First of all - I have no Ann Lee Rees buried at Johnston 1834, but I am more than keen to find out who she was, dear soul.
With such a name, she will be of high interest to me.
George Manning Rees baptised at St. Martins H/W is the son of Lt. William Lee Rees and Mary Pocock. Between service in the navy, it seems that he did return to Haverforwest area to live.
Sep 16. 1817 Entry #3950 page 184 of the unknown book:
1. Jane Roch of Bullford (Bulford), Parish of Stainton (Steynton), widow, and William Roch of the same, farmer, her eldest son by John Roch her late husband, deceased;
2. David Rees of Woodbine Cottage, Parish of St. Issels, Haroldstone, esq;
3. William Rees of the same, a lieutenant in H.M.Navy.
Conveyance of a messuage and lands, being part of Bulford aforesaid.
William Lee and Mary's first child William Gilbert was born at Derby Farm, on the 6th. April, 1827 and baptised in the nearby St. Issells Church , Haroldstone, Pembroke, Wales on 7 May 1827.
The Pigots Directory of 1830, has Lieut. William Lee Rees living at Church Lane, Bristol. Gloucestershire. His father-in-law's boarding school Prospect Academy is also in Church Lane.
There is an article in Haverforwest written about his eldest son William Gilbert Rees - the explorer in Queenstown NZ.
His two other known girls were Mary St. George Rees (Mrs. John Clark of Folkestone - teachers) and Isabel Rose Day (Mrs. John Bellenie Day - lithographers to the Queen - London)
Thus, the above Ann Lee Rees could belong to either my John Rees, the eldest child of David Rees or even Lt. Wm Lee Rees or David Rees' wife. David himself died in 1837.
Great news.
Thank you very much for yet another clue.
PS My daughter - 180 years later is Ana Lee Rees
Keith
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If Ann Lee Rees buried Johnson 1834 was a baby, then it is possible that she was George Manning Rees and Sarah Williams' second child.
This is the same Geo Manning Rees later of Fishguard, who marries Martha Llewellin of Dale.
1832 At the baptism of son James Lee Rees, George and Sarah are living and farming at Dredgman Hill, St. Thomas, and south of Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire. It is known that George Manning's father David Rees owned Woodbine Cottage (1818), Derby Farm (1825) and Green Hill Farm (1835), all large farms immediately to the east of Dredgman Hill and his Uncle John Rees leased Westfields Farm adjoining Woodbine Cottage.
They may have a second child, who died before they split.
In David Rees' Will of 1837 all the spouses are named except for George Manning Rees' wife. Then in 1838 on the setttlement of David's Will George Manning leaves 180 pounds for his son James Lee Rees, to be administered by Richard Rees (grocer Haverfordwest) and Sarah is to keep James Lee Rees of the annual dividends until he is 21 when he signed for the 180 pounds.
Regards,
Keith
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Went back to the Rec Off today to double check my findings
H’west St Thomas Burial
***Mrs Mary Rees aged 28 buried 13th June 1795.
***Ann Rees aged 35 buried 1st Oct 1805 (PLEASE NOTE THE YEAR)
***Ann Lee Rees of Johnston aged 5 months buried 03 August 1834
*** I have jpeg’d these items send me an email address by PM if you require copies
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Keith
I should have added searched H'west St Mary and St Martin for the baptism of Sarah Ann Rees 1796 to 1803, but alas nil found.
Hope the jpegs of use.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Thank you very much Orielbenfro for your excellent help.
Still without evidence that David Rees married Ann Lee c 1797 to 1805, this is the best evidence of her being called Rees and assuming it was not just another Ann Rees.
I still will go with the Census evidence for Sarah Ann Thomas, nee Rees where she claims to have been born in Gloster, Gloucestershire. Assuming Gloster is near Westbury on Trym, then it is highly possible that the Rees family had a connection there. Three of Sarah's siblings having married 3 of George Pocock's chn of Prospect Academy, St. Michael's Hill, Bristol. May be a couple of the boys went to boarding school there.
Much appreciated.
Keith
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no, Gloucester isn't near Westbury on Trym. It's now part of Bristol.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/WestburyonTrym/index.html
http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/wot-00.asp
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Thank you Osprey.
I welcome your comments as I have made a misconception between Westbury, Gloucestershire and Westbury on Trym... ; and mixed my knowledge of other family members being born at Westbury Hill, near Rosemarket.
(see attached old map)
With the spelling of the birth location of Sarah Rees (Sarah A. Thomas) on the 1851 Census: HO107/2477 Milford being Gloster, Gloucestershire c.1800, maybe I should be re-trying Gloucester for her birth (c1799)
Thank you for your input again. As you can see, I am back on the Rees trail again and having success with "new relations" in Cwmafan, Wales, which is great news.
Keith Rees Aus
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I would like to acknowledge Orielbenfro for his assistance with looking up records of the Rees and Rev James Hughes Thomas in Haverfordwest. A great helper.
Would some like to look at the above burials for St. Martins Haverfordwest. I am now starting to doubt reading down or sideways as to where 1804 and 1805 finishes starts with the records of Ann Rees aged 35 died buried Oct 14th ... and maybe her mother Mary Lee May 14th. ... and the baby David Rees opposite Mary Lee's entry.
It is also possible that the baby aged 11 months buried ....... called David Rees actually belongs to Ann and David Rees. Of the other four boys none have been called David Rees, maybe this child is his as well, and a possible cause of Ann Rees dying some months later.
A new family contact has been made, and they make mention of folklore of Miss Lee from Northampton being the wife of George Manning Rees. It is my opinion that she is his mother, not wife. This is certainly another break through. With the help of RootChat.com Northampton members, interested people may look at their very positive options for the two Lee sisters coming from Watford, Northampton and the close connections with the names Lee and Manning.
The above death age of the mother Mary Lee at St. Martins, certainly also matches a date for her and a marriage to a John Manning Lee in the small village of Watford, Northamptonshire 21 Jul 1763. John Manning Lee's mother could have been Elizabeth Manning of Milton, Northampton.
Once again, than you to all helpers.
Keith
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George Manning Rees
Kirk
During a very long day of motorcycling early this week, over much of Pembrokeshire in search of ex-servicemen's headstones I had cause among many others to walk around the churchyard/cemetery (among a number of others) at Fishguard.
I'm sure it was there that I stood and looked at the headstone of a George Manning Rees, trying for the life of me to remember who was interested in him why and where or was it just an O.A.P.'s imagination trying to remember peoples interests in the county.
If you have not already obtained it and I do have to return north for more service headstones anyway do you want me to double check and obtain a jpeg of the headstone.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Hi Orielbenfro
Keith getting in before Kirk as we get messages earlier down under!
Yes, the headstone now leaning up against the back fence is the correct George Manning Rees with one of his daughter's Margaret Hall Seddon. Margaret did have one child called Amy (Amelia) before she died. The Hall middle name would have come from her grandmother or Martha Llewellin's mother Mary Hall of Dale.
Thank you for the offer of the photo, we do have one or two or three or four! Another fantastic person (like yourself) was waiting for a bus outside St. Mary's church with plenty of time to spare (like you do in the country) when she decided to go for a walk. Such a name as George Manning Rees brought back memories to her, so snapped the headstone, just in case.
Kirk may have his own version of both a story and a photo as well. Without mentioning names, there is a lady living in Fishguard (in a converted shop left by her in-laws) who descends from George Manning Rees, and had no idea, to some recent conversations.
Once again, your thoughtfulness is much appreciated.
Regards,
Keith Rees
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George Manning Rees 1802 - 1875
New development:
Marriage to Sarah Williams 1831 St. Thomas, Haverfordwest. Two known children James Lee Rees 1832 and Ann Lee Rees 1834. James Lee Rees 180 pd invested for him; Ann Lee Rees died infant.
The Will of his father in 1835 names a partner for Geo Manning Rees called Cross, and infers that two daughters were born from the partnership; who and when.
Option1: two daughters born between 1820 and 1830; and his father did not know of these children in his 1831 Will
Option 2: GMRees had an affair with Miss Cross 1834 and twin daughters born before 21 July 1835.
1837 Will of father: 400 pd to be invested for son and daughters of George Manning Rees, thus Cross girls still alive.
Any assistance to try and identify Miss Cross and her two daughters with George Manning Rees most welcome.
Keith
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Orielbenfro
Just a short message to let you know that one of your earlier research works may now give me something to work on:
Wm Rees m. Mary Evans of St. Martin, Haverfordwest at St. Marys 29/10/1822.
Recent purchase of an 1831 Will of David Rees of Dredgmans Hill, Pembrokeshire indicates his intention to leave his sister Sarah Evans and housekeeper Elizabeth Lawrence 300 pds invested. First I have heard of Evans name. Sarah not in 1835 version; Elizabeth was named.
Noted that a John Evans, a baker of H/West, went bankrupt 22 Feb 1833; and a John Evans may have had something to do with Richard Rees the baker/grocer of Hill Street, Haverfordwest.
Once again, your research is most appreciated.