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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: Brie on Thursday 28 August 08 12:57 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I wondered if anyone can help me with a bit of local topography.
In our family records my 6xg grandmother marries "a farmer from Mapperly Park in Derbyshire" 1747. The bit in quotations was written about 35 years later by her brother George so I expect it to be accurate. However, whenever I try and find Mapperley Park a suburb of Nottingham comes up. So is there another Mapperly Park or is George wrong? I have to say that George hasn't been found to make any other errors so far in his notes and he farmed near East Leake and knew that part of Leics/Notts/Derby very well.
Thanks
Brie
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There's a Mapperley in Derbyshire. Its near Ilkeston.
Sue
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mapperley (Village)- on the edge of what now is called "Shipley Country park" is in Derbyshire -and has problems being mistaken for mapperley nottingham. The village shop used to have a map of mapperley Village and a route to mapperley Nottingham -stating "you are here and you should be here!-for the lorry drivers/delivery vans which called in to ask the whereabouts of certain roads which were in the "other" Mapperley.
mapperley Derbys has been there MUCH longer than mapperley nottingham and today consists of approx 100 houses and several farms.
What name are you researching?
I am involved in a project of researching the history of mapperley Village Derbys -and may be able to help
Suz
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Hi Brie
I hope this link works
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55132&sheetid=6457&ox=0&oy=0&zm=1&czm=10&x=499&y=283
ricky
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Thank-you everyone. I think it stands a strong chance of being the Mapperley in Derbyshire mentioned, particularly bearing in mind its proximity to Shipley. So I will look into this further. Suzard, the names I am researching are the Brentnall family in Shipley (16/1700s) and the Trumans in Mapperley (1700s is when they appear on my tree) Joseph Truman married Mary Brentnall in 1747.
Thanks
Brie
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There are people still living in Mapperley Village who married into the Truman family -to this day.
Truman/brentnall are quite strong Shipley /Mapperley names
What was known as Mapperley Park (Derbys) is now known as Park Hall - it is just up the lane from the little cluster of houses which make up the village -and consists of 2 farms (park hall farm and what we know as Alfie Shaws farm as the Shaw family have farmed there as long as anyone can remember, and half a dozen cottages.
There is also mapperley brook (which is in the opposite direction to Park hall) and that again is half a dozen cottages and a farm (headhouse farm)
Suz
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Suz,
Thank-you, your last post certainly seems to answer my query. I'm hoping to visit Shipley soon so shall try and get Mapperley in too. I would be interested if anything crops up about Joseph Truman when you are doing your history. I don't know when he was born or anything about his forbears. He had four daughters, from one of whom I'm descended (I have details about their marriages and children if anyone wants that information) and one son Joseph born in 1754. I don't know what happened to him or whether he continued to farm in Mapperley. George the 18th C genealogist doesn't seem to have much about him or I've overlooked it.
Brie
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There is an E Truman occ Wheelwright in mapperley1845 Post office directory
he is on 1841 census
I also have a list of mapperley personel and it lists Elijah Truman Wheelwright and also Elijah Truman Farmer - but i have no date for this list!!!!
I will keep a look out
Suz
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Hi Brie,
Have you seen this website:
http://www.brentnall.com/
It's been brilliant for me researching my Brentnalls from Horsley/Ilkeston...maybe we have an ancestor in common?!
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Burto,
Thanks, I have seen it. However, I haven't ever worked out how to read half of what is on it. Much of it is too late for me but I would like to be able to read the information posted by Alison but it is too unclear on the screen and very small but when I try to print it out it is enormous and I only get a piece of the page.
My 6xg grandmother b 1721 was a Brentnall and I have her family for two generations further back to a Samuel b. 1650 in Shipley. If you think there could be any link with your Brentnalls do let me know and I'll send further details. Most of the family farmed in South Derbyshire/Notts/N. Leics area.
Brie
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Did you know that you can change the size of a page you are reading by holding down the CTRL key and moving the wheel on the mouse?
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thank-you. No I didn't. I've just looked at it and it worked! Can see my Brentnalls there but it doesn't seem to go any further back than we had already. However I expect there may well be the odd bit of information we haven't got. It's good though to see 6xg uncle George's record confirmed.
Now I must go back to work and resist the temptation to read everything there now!
Thanks again
Brie
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Hi All,
Suzard
I am involved in a project of researching the history of mapperley Village Derbys -and may be able to help
I would be interested in this. Many of my Hallam's lived in Mapperley.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Regards,
Dave
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Hello there, I'd be most interested to hear about the Mapperley village history project too. This is on behalf of my wife, who has 'Bardill' and 'Spendlove' ancestors from there. We're local and have been in the Black Horse at Mapperley a few times, always been intrigued by the framed old photographs on the walls, I assume they're local? Know anything about them?
All the best,
Nick Miller.