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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: GillyBW on Wednesday 27 August 08 22:33 BST (UK)
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My GGranparents are on 1911 Dublin Census living at St Patrick's Terrace, New Kilmainham. Would anyone be able to look up this on the 1901 census. Their names are Thomas and Mary Beahan, plus children, Thomas, William, Ambrose and Mary. I have no idea if they would be at the same address in 1901 though. Any help would be great - thanks!
Gill
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The Irish 1901 census is not yet on line.
You need to know the address and search in person in Dublin!
Kooky
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Hiya, did you have any luck with this? I reckon we're related, Thomas Beahan was also my great grandfather, his son William Beahan was my grandfather.
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hi if you havnt already looked , look at the profile , the wee face !
click on it and go down to view posts , youll be able to see what they searched for and responses , might help you .
looks like they havnt been on since 2007 .
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Hi,
It is on line www.censusnationalarchives.ie
There is a family at 10, Hawthorn Terrace, New Kil. father thomas, mother mary with several children - one called Ambrose
Junev
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thanks guys, found that family in Hawthorn terrace, that's the right family, I just can't get any further back. The Father Thomas Beahan was born in India, I can't get any records for him. Also, I found a record of Thomas and Maria's marriage in Dublin but none of their total of 9 children seemed to be baptised in ireland, this seems very strange.
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thomas patrick beahan 20 oct 1857 meerut india .
james 26 june on ship1854-1932 leeds
catherine j 1863 meerut india
elizabeth 1865 york
norah 1870 curragh ireland
born to james beahan died 24 march 1900 ireland catherine nolan 29 april 1903
tree on ancestry goes down
james beahan 1854 wed winona gertrude columbine 1884 leeds
lawrence beahan
agnes mary 1886-1886
james patrick 1888
catherine hilda 1890
you should be able to find james and catherines deaths in ireland
tree goes on , would be worth lookin at
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Name: James Beahan
Registration District: Dublin South
Event Type: Death
Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1900
Age : 70 (estimated year of birth : 1829)
Volume : 2
page : 662
cant find wifes she could have died england maybe
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james and catherine buried in glasnevin 1900 and 1903 an extended grave .
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/
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Name: Catherine Jane Beahan
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 May 1863
Baptism/Christening Place: MEERUT, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1863
Birthplace: MEERUT, Bengal, India
Father's Name: James Beahan
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Catherine
Reference No: v 104 p 235
(India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947)
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wow, thanks obbie, great info your sending through
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1891 england census lambeth .
nora beahan 18 1873 kildare
jeannie beahan 22 1869 merut india
possible ?
Marriages Jun 1896
BEAHAN Norah Manchester 8d 501
Name: Elizabeth Mary Behen ?
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Apr 1860
Baptism/Christening Place: Meerut, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1860
Father's Name: James Behen ?
Mother's Name: Catherine
Reference No: v 98 p 158
(India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947)
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Births Jun 1865
BEAHAN Elizabeth York 9d 29
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your thomas married mary ?
if you dont mind me asking
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yes, that's right, thomas was born 1959 ish in India, still can't find out who his parents were
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do you know thomas 1859 spouses name ? mary whom ?
thomas beahan 1859 india his parents are james beahan and catherine nolan who died 1900 and 1903 and buried glasnevin cemetry .
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Hello Bluehat
Kooky is right. I haven't been online for a long time - pressure of work, family etc.! Thanks for your reply. I believe that Thomas Beahan had the middle name of Charles as did his son Thomas, my Grandfather. I haven't found the surname of his wife, Mary though.
So it may be that we are related through our Granddad's. My Grandad died young in around 1929/30 and eventually most of the family moved to England. I don't have much information at all about the family but my Mum remembers William and has an idea that he was gassed in WWI - does fit in with what you know?
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Hiya, thanks for your reply, yep, seems we're related alright! That's the same William, my mam Olive was William's daughter, she passed away in 1994. I keep coming up against a brick wall trying to find out what Thomas' wife Mary's surname was. Also, any idea why he was born in India? Who his father was?
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do you know thomas 1859 spouses name ? mary whom ?
thomas beahan 1859 india his parents are james beahan and catherine nolan who died 1900 and 1903 and buried glasnevin cemetry .
is this not correct ?
ww1 record
royal engineer sapper
no. 48981
william m joseph beahan
born st james dublin
a wheel wright and coach builder
joined dublin 10 sept 1914
discharged unfit 31-8-17
father thomas beahan 1 north square inchicore
age 21 5ft 4and 1/2 inchs 116ilbs blue eyes sandy hair
rejoined 17 sept 1917
no. f26902
discharged 2-8-1918
on ancestry .
williams likely birth
Name: William Beahan
Registration District: Dublin South
Event Type: Birth
Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1893
Volume : 2 / Page : 578
(Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958)
go into any birth reg office and ask for record above
cost 6 euros .
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thomas patrick beahan 20 oct 1857 meerut india .
james 26 june on board ship 1854
catherine j 1863 meerut india
elizabeth 1865 york
norah 1870 curragh ireland
id guess india , york and curragh kildare all army births .
it would be worth getting james death cert as might give occupation (1900)
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wow, that's amazing, thanks so much for all this!
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from number of years married in census 28 = 1883ish possibly dublin as kids all born dublin .
thomas beahan looks like married mary meehan 1883 dublin .
marriage can be got from GRO roscommon or GRO dublin .
Name: Thomas Beahan
Registration District: Dublin South
Event Type: Marriage
Quarter & Year: Oct - Dec 1883
Volume : 2 / page : 621
(Civil BMD Index)
Name Mary Meehan
Registration District Dublin South
Event Type: Marriage
Quarter and Year Oct - Dec 1883
volume 2 / Page 621
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This is fantastic information. Thanks to everyone who has looked it up.
Bluehat, good to find a relative. My mum, Catherine, would be your Mum's first cousin. Mum is still with us at 87 and I'll tell her all about this and see what else she can tell us.
I was always told that Thomas was born in India and that he was in the British Army but knew very little apart from that. But the research backs that up. My Mum remebers him as being a very respectable man, wore a bowler hat and paid for her to have piano lessons.
My grandad, Thomas, is listed as working as a Fireman on the railways but in 1923 when Mum was born her is on her birth certificate as a sergeant in the in the national army.
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Hi GillyBW
My mam two brother's are still alive, Harry who lives in Essex and Christy who lives beside my grandparents family home in Camac Park, Bluebell, Dublin, your mam might remember it. Charlie, Breda and Liam have all passed on. Whereabouts is your mum living now?
I never met either of my granddads and my grandmothers on both sides passed when I was 6. I also lost both my parents very young, so finding all this info out now is fantastic, it's stuff that's been a mystery for years.
Thanks Obbie for all the info, and GillyBW, nice to meet you.... cousin!
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your welcome only too pleased to help
hope your research goes well and ye gets lots of long lost distant cousins knockin on your family trees .
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Hi - have just found these comments, having given up rather on my searches for information. My paternal greatgrandfather was James Beahan. He was born on board ship and eventually ended up in Leeds as a Lithographer. He had two sons, one of whom was my Grandad Jim. I knew his brother was called Thomas and lived in Inchicore and his father was James. I have a journal that he kept for many years with all sorts of bits of information. He talks of going to visit Thomas and of his nephew William not being well. He mentions visiting his father's grave at Glasnevin. Also about his sisters Elizabeth and Norah. I have a letter from Norah's estranged son Alan who was trying to trace his relatives in the days before the internet. Anyway - hello those of you to whom it looks I am related! My father Patrick was an only child and we never had many relatives on the Beahan side. His uncle Lawrence and his father Jim fell out when they were young. My Dad managed to make contact with his cousin Paul Beahan before they both died. Anyway....enough for now!
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wow Pangie, good to hear from you. Myself and my sister have been trying to find information for a while now. We would love to find out more about this diary, if you don't mind.
Private message me when you get a chance.
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Pangie will need a few more posts (need 3) before they can use the PM system - see : http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
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Wow - like you, I had sort of given up on finding anything and within 2 days i find two relatives! I'd love to know more, especially about the journal. Look forward to hearing more. LIke BlueHat if you get the chance, could you post a private message.
Are you Leeds based? I have a son there at Uni.
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This is so interesting....as soon as I have posted enough I will get in touch with you both. I am here in my sitting room with 2 sketches of James Beahan, my great grandfather, brother of your great grandfather Thomas, on the walls. They were done by my step grandmother who was the family lodger at the time! He is bald and bespectacled with a bushy little tache.
I will have to get the journal out again as I havent looked at it for ages. It is in copperplate handwriting and very difficult to read. I keep meaning to transcribe it and now it looks as though I must get round to that.
James Joseph (I believe he adopted this middle name as it is not on his certificate of baptism in London which I have) Beahan came to Leeds from London I think in the 1880s but I dont know why he ended up there. I couldnt find him on census records from his birth in 1854 till he was working in Leeds as an adult. He worked as a draughtsman in the Engineers dept at Leeds City Council. His eldest son, my grandfather James (Jim) lived in Leeds all his life and was a Headmaster. I remember him well. My Dad Patrick was born and brought up in Leeds. I was born in Leeds but my parents eventually moved near Sheffield and lived in the Peak District for 46 years. So the Leeds connection ends with me.
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Hi Pangie
Really looking forward to hearing more. Between the three of us we have loads of information to share so looking forward to hearing from you
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I can feel a visit to Dublin coming on...
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It turns out that GillyBW and I are doubly related. Our Grandfathers, Thomas and William Beahan actually married two sisters Catherine and Brigid Flynn from Mallow, Co. Cork. We've exchanged photos of our grandmothers and the similarity is amazing!
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That's fantastic bluehat. My stepgrandmother Hilda who married Jim Beahan after his wife died (before I was born) and who lived until 2003 (she was much younger than him) mentioned two sisters in Dublin - I wonder if it was your grandmothers???
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Well most likely it was the same sisters she was talking about.
What do you know about James Beahan Snr? What was his actual occupation that all the kids were born in India, on a ship etc?
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He was an officer in the Carabineers (6th Dragoon Guards?) and fought in the Crimean War. We have his medal from that war. I will go up into my loft tomorrow and dig all my stuff out about the family. Will then PM you if possible.
I would think he was stationed in India - it was the time of insurgency and the British Army was very involved over there with quashing riots etc
Be in touch again soon.
I wonder what GillyBW's mother knows about him?
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My Mum know very little about him. All she knows is that her Grandad was born in India. She was very young when her Dad, Thomas Jnr, died and I suppose she lost that connection. She does remember Thomas Senior as an old man who visited her with his wife. He was a clerk and dressed very smartly and had a bowler hat.
I am fascinated that James Snr fought in the Crimean war - really looking forward to hearing more.
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it's great to see long lost relations finding out about each other like this.
well done!
Shane
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Very exciting stuff, wish I'd asked more questions when my parents were both alive, but at last I'm finding out loads thanks to you guys.
Can't wait to find out more. I just wish I had more to tell you, I'll catch up with my brother and my uncle Christy soon (William's son) and see what I can find out.
Thanks Shane for your good wishes.
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i did some research on my military ancestor , found out quite a lot of english military records still exist , my guy joined 1851 left late 1890,s .
got in contact with KEW in england through them was put in contact with a guy called Richard Moles (google his name just) he does lots of irish connected research .
he got my guys attestation papers gave me where from date of birth and start of military career .
charged 40stg maybe two years ago .
might be worth it for you guys .
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wow, thanks obbie, great info your sending through
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Hi
I would like to learn more about Thomas Beahan born in India in 1859. he married Mary Beahan they had aboy 5 children. One of which was Mary Teresa Beahan b 1889 Dublin died 1972. Can you go further back than Thomas Beahan ? what were the names of the other Beahan siblings? I assume Thomas was in the Britsih army in India ?? where was he stationed - any info?
Paul
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Hi Paul
My greatgrandfather was James Beahan- older brother to Thomas. There were I think 3 sisters 2 of whom were also born in India. James was born on board ship in 1854 and left in Kensington in London where he was baptised and ended up at a school for orphans - he had one leg shorter than the other which is why he may have been abandoned. Somewhere along the line however he reconnected to his family and used to visit his father and brother Thomas in Dublin from Leeds where he settled. One of his sisters left her son with him at times. He kept a journal which I have in my possession. I have never been able to find out much about his parents - but my family do have James senior's crimean war medal.
Angela