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Title: I'm confused!
Post by: Timotheus on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:14 BST (UK)
Can anyone help please?

I've not done much Family History recently but when I went into Ancestry.com I found entries in the 1841 census for Thomas Smothers (or Smethers, or Smithers) and his family.  But in the transcript they were described as 'Nee Worgan' - not just his wife, but the daughters and Thomas himself!  Yet to further confuse me the actual census itself makes no mention of this as far as I can see. 

Ancestry.com have a widget next to the name that offers further information, but when I click this, it tells me I'm not authorised to see it!

Any ideas would be appreciated.

T
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: newby dee on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:20 BST (UK)
i clicked on widget it says thomas smothers transcript error should read thomas smithers
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: Flouncylicious on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:21 BST (UK)
When I click on them I get a list of corrections from Ancestry users for those entries. It says that Smothers should be Smithers.
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: Dave Francis on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:26 BST (UK)
Hi there

The entries read as follows:

1841 St Philip & St Jacob, Gloucestershire
HO 107/378/1 folio 46 page 35

Thomas Smothers, 50, shoem
Sofie do., 50
Sofia do., 11
Eliza do., 18
Amelia do., 8
Samuel Josen, 35, lab

All recorded as born in Gloucestershire

The additional notes (nee Worgan etc) aren't part of the Census itself. They've been added to the system by another user, presumably as a useful finding aid. Someone else is researching the same family as you!

Dave

PS: It does actually say Smothers!
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: Timotheus on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:37 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your comments.  I'm particularly interested in the fact that the 'nee Worgan' note was added by someone - could this mean that someone has found that Thomas's wife Sofie was Sofie Worgan when they married I wonder?

Further views or comments welcomed.

Thanks again.

T
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: newby dee on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:37 BST (UK)
not always helpful then if any one can add on is it ? just more confusion to the already difficult  job !!!!!
GOOD LUCK
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: SueTeakle on Wednesday 27 August 08 21:43 BST (UK)
Hi All,

I`m not sure if it will help or hinder but I`ve just found this marriage:-

Thomas Smethurst (otp) & Sophia Worgan (otp)
1st November 1807 at St Pauls, Bristol - Banns


Sue
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: Timotheus on Friday 29 August 08 19:24 BST (UK)
It sounds good - the Smethurst name reappears later in my family so that sounds right.  However if the ages in the 1841 census are right (both 45) they would have married at 11.   That sounds a bit young even by 19th Century standards!  Do you think the ages in 1841 census might be wrong? (Problem is, I can't find them after 1841 to check ages)

T
Title: Re: I'm confused!
Post by: Arranroots on Friday 29 August 08 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi Timotheus

Remember that ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest five years, so somebody whose age was given as 45 could be aged anything from 45 to 49.

I hope that helps?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)