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Title: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: claire31 on Wednesday 27 August 08 19:46 BST (UK)

Within our family tree I have found a marriage between Elizabteh J Fagan and Renzo A L Tognarelli in 1942.  She is deffinitley from Workington and I think he was too.  The marriage appears to have taken place down in Oxford.  There is a Tognarelli family in Whitehaven on the 1901 Census consisting of 3 brothers and their cousin Celestion.   Celestino married in Barrow and then moved to Ulverston.  The other brothers were Ferrucio, Filippo and Giovanne.  If anyone has any information it would be greatly appreciated.

Claire

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: GeoffE on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:12 BST (UK)

I don't know if you know about this - under the heading Cafes, Snack Bars and Tea Rooms,

H & R Tognarelli Ltd
46 Pow Street, Workington, Cumbria, CA14 3AG
01900 602317

so there is still a TOGNARELLI presence in Workington.

(http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/images/mm047.jpg)

http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/MM047%20Tognarelli.htm

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: Jackie M on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:17 BST (UK)

Don't know the family personally but I am from the area and know the cafe - it was really good.  I think they used to make their own ice cream (if my memory serves me well).

I'll ask around and see if anyone knows what happened to the family.

I'll keep you posted.

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: claire31 on Wednesday 27 August 08 20:43 BST (UK)

Thank you for helping out.  Every bit helps!!!!!!!  I had seen the Cafe when I conducted a generic search but couldn't get much info other than it was there and that there had been this large ice cream empire!!

If you are local, - well local knowledge can alwasy be such a bonus!

Thanks again

Claire ;D :D

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: Northside lass on Thursday 28 August 08 06:56 BST (UK)

I too am from Workington  but now live 'down under' and can remember 'Toggies' they used to have a shop on Oxford street  as well went in there quite often and had Vimto and icecream in the same glass must have had some name but cant remember, big sister worked there, the icecream was lovely.
          Will ask big sister if she can help with any info,
                                                                               Susan

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: jeffbubble on Thursday 28 August 08 13:39 BST (UK)

Claire,
I was talking to Peter Toggnarelli in Cockermouth, this morning, can you tell me why you want contact with the family. Then I can get a phone number to you.

Jeff.

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: claire31 on Thursday 28 August 08 15:23 BST (UK)

I have been conducting family research down the Fagan line, who came to Workington from Ireland.  I am now looking at the wider branches of the tree which include the marriage of Elizabeth J Fagan, to Renzo AL Tognarelli in 1942.  Elizabeth would be second cousin, I think to our family and I am simply trying to piece together the history of the families, and  to establish if Renzo fits in with the Tognarelli family that I have found living in Whitehaven in 1901.  Any info to piece together the puzzle is greatfully received.

Thank you

 Claire

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: jeffbubble on Friday 29 August 08 09:59 BST (UK)

Thank you, When I get your phone number I will put you in touch with the family.

Ps One of the family walked from Italy to Workington in an effor to join his brothers.

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: claire31 on Friday 29 August 08 12:15 BST (UK)

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Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: Jackie M on Saturday 30 August 08 21:42 BST (UK)

Hi Claire

I have asked people at work if they know the family which several people do.  I see that in the meantime you have a good contact who can help so I will leave it up to them.

Hope the research goes well
Jackie

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: claire31 on Saturday 30 August 08 22:00 BST (UK)

Thanks for thinking of me anyway!  The contact has beeen great.  I can now confirm that Elizabeth married into the family I found in Whitehaven, and the gentleman I spoke to was able to add a feww more pieces of the puzzle.  It is so rewarding when you get that kind of response, makes all the fruitless hours of internet search spring to life!!

Thanks to Jeff too.  It was very good of you to get the contact for me.

Claire :)

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: Northside lass on Sunday 31 August 08 06:00 BST (UK)

Glad everything worked out Claire  ;D ;D ;D
                                                  Susan
                                                

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: am.gilbert on Wednesday 03 September 08 15:21 BST (UK)

The Tognarelli's bought the shop on Pow Street from ancestors of mine in the Topping family.  I have a photo of the shop on Pow Street when it was owned by the Toppings if anyone is interested pm me.

If anyone looking has any information on the Topping family I would be very interested.  In particular if any Tognarelli's can tell me who actually owned the shop that would be interesting.  My gg grandfather Newall and his wife Eleanor lived and worked in the shop but it may have been Newall's brother John (who emigrated to Argentina) that owned properties in Workington.

Thanks

Title: Re: Tognarelli marries Fagan
Post by: Lapo on Wednesday 11 September 13 12:25 BST (UK)

Non faccio parte della famiglia Tognarelli ma abito nella casa che Renzo Al Tognarelli aveva costruito in Italia (Toscana - Barga) chiamandola "Villino Germana" in ricordo della madre emigrata ai primi del '900.