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Title: Sutcliffe family
Post by: gaburton on Tuesday 26 August 08 15:13 BST (UK)

Desperate for help.
I am trying to find the back history of Ernest Sutcliffe  born approx 1885 in the Bradford workhouse his mother was Mary Ann Sutcliffe, may have a connection with Eli Salter may not.
Both can only be found in these records and then disappear until 1903 when Ernest is the father other of my gfather (Albert Thorpe).
Do the names mean anything to anyone.
Cheers,
Glenn

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: johig on Saturday 30 August 08 20:02 BST (UK)

Hi,
I have 2 families  from 1881 census, I have another but no more space.
At Gibson Fold, Bowling
HLF Film 1342061,  PRO Ref R11,  Piece 4437, Folio 114, Page 28

3 Gibson Fold, Bowling.
URIAH SUTCLIFFE   Head.  age34  born Wibsey. (Carter)
MARY ANN SUTCLIFFE  Wife  "  34 born Bradford
BRIDGET MACK          Mother in Law    age 62  born Longford Colam Hill
******************************************************************

77 Maperton Road,
FHL Film 1342063, PRO Ref RG11, Piece 4445, Folio 94, Page 6

THOMAS SUTCLIFFE  Head  age 38  born Bradford (Stuff Warehouseman)
SARAH E. SUTCLIFFE  Wife age 29  born  Leeds
ANNIE L. SUTCLIFFE  Dau.  age 7  born   Bradford   (Scholar)
NELLIE  SUTCLIFFE    Dau.  age 6    "             "           ( Scholar)
THOMAS E. SUTCLIFFE  Son  age 2    "            "     
MARY ANN SUTCLIFFE  Sister  age 35   "        "        ( Photographers Assistant)

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: Sisterjane on Saturday 30 August 08 23:08 BST (UK)

Hi Glenn..What makes you think she may or may not have a connection to Eli Slater?..its a toughy this one so any scrap of info could help us sort it for you.. :)

Jane  :) ;)

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: johig on Sunday 31 August 08 08:30 BST (UK)

Hi,
MARY ANN SUTCLIFFE was a boarder at the house of WILLIAM IBBOTSON.
This was at 6 Carr Syke, Heaton, Bradford.

ELI SALTER lived with his wife & 3 Children at 100 Napier Street, Bradford


John

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: Sisterjane on Sunday 31 August 08 09:57 BST (UK)

Hi

Its possible that Ernest was adopted soon after his birth in the Workhouse and his "parents" changed his name.

Jane

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: gaburton on Sunday 31 August 08 20:27 BST (UK)

Hi, Ernest is proving a problem, He retained the surname until his death, and I believe had a spell in the army prior to 1903, He was certainly in Bradford 1907 when he married his son's (my gfather) mother.
All I know about his time to that is his birth in the workhouse. I have details of his mother admitting herself, leaving with him. His baptism approx 12 months later. one of the three addresses Mary Ann Sutcliffe uses around this time is the address of Eli Salter and by what may be a very strange coincidence the address Ernest Sutcliffe gives at the time of his marriage in Dudley Hill, Bradford and is the home of Eli Salter.
I am not aware of any siblings etc. as it appears he spoke little about his past. On his marriage certificate he names Mary Ann Sutcliffe as his mother but she is not shown as deceased.
I am really scratching my head re this close ancestor of mine.
Thank you for your ideas so far.

Glenn

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: Sisterjane on Sunday 31 August 08 22:43 BST (UK)

Hi Glenn..



Sorry to be a pain but can you tell us where your Mary was in 1881 cencus.?

Thanks

Jane :)

Title: Re: Sutcliffe family
Post by: Brylee on Wednesday 04 May 11 11:15 BST (UK)

Need help! A family member will be visiting England this month and would like to know more about Charles Henry Sutcliffe born 1842 / died 1930(Australia) occupation -wool classer. Married Elizabeth Harriet(nee-Senior) born 1842 /
 died 1920 (Australia)
Maybe around Leeds or Reading Yorkshire

Thanks
Brylee