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Title: Help Please!!
Post by: genuisscuffy on Sunday 24 August 08 19:32 BST (UK)
Hi, I've just found some relatives in the Cornwall area and wonder if anyone can help?
Elizabeth Sarah Pill born 1865 Penzance, Cornwall Married a George Richard Fielder in 1883 Portsea Island (Hampshire) Died 11 June 1942 Father- Walter Charles Pill  and Mother Elizabeth Ann Griffiths.  I have the marriage cert to George Richard but no other info.
Walter Charles Pill born 1836 in Senna, Cornwall died c. 1883? (was a Mariner) - his Father Hugh Pill and Mother Sarah St. Andrew.
Elizabeth Ann Griffithsborn Oct-Dec 1838 in Penzance married Walter Charles Pill in Jul-Sept 1863 Penzance. Father William Griffiths Mother Honor Angwin
Hugh Pill(father of Walter Charles Pill) born Jan-Mar 1789 in St. Keverne, Cornwall died 28 Sept 1872 Wherrytown, Penzance. Father? Mother?
and Elizabeth Rowe(Mother of Honor Angwin born 1793 Penzance
and help on census would be appreciated :)
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 25 August 08 01:10 BST (UK)
Hi genuisscuffy,

Welcome to Cornwall  ;D

Cornwall Census is Free Online

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html

Cornwall is a great County for research. You will also find many parish records Online.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,52054.0.html

You will find Senna is Sennen. - Parish Records Online.

http://members.tripod.com/sennencornwall/contents.htm

I see by the baptisms Hugh was with the preventative service

He is mentioned in a couple of Coast Guard sites

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/

http://morrab.tripod.com/known_coastguards.htm

Also St Kerverne Records Online.  ;)

Have a good look around and get back to us if you have any queries

Cheers Kris  :D

Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: genuisscuffy on Monday 25 August 08 15:05 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks for your help its very interesting!! I still cant find Hugh Pill on the early census - maybe I'm just not looking properly!! ??? Thanks
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: Barbara F on Monday 25 August 08 15:16 BST (UK)
Hi

Is Hugh the man in the 1871 census in the Kemp household in Penzance?

I will see if I can trace him in earlier censuses for you.  As he was  a coastguard (assuming I have the right man) he may have moved around quite a lot

Barbara
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: Fisherman on Monday 25 August 08 15:20 BST (UK)
Hi,

Hugh Pill, coastguard, and family in 1841

HO107/144/15/10/13

Living in Sennen Cove

Chris
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: deb usa on Monday 25 August 08 15:53 BST (UK)
Hi everyone

in 1861
Wherry Town
Hugh PILL head mar 72 pensioner/coastguard b GORRAN Haven??
Sarah wife 68 b Hants Gosport

IGI has this extracted record;
Hugh PILL
4 Jan 1789 GORRAN
parents; John Pill and Jane

a Submitted records suggests that Jane RIPPEN is his mother.

deb :)
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: deb usa on Monday 25 August 08 16:23 BST (UK)
In 1841 living with Hugh and Sarah Pill (and their many children) there is a 90 year Elizabeth St Andrew...not born in county.

Maybe her mother?

deb
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: deb usa on Monday 25 August 08 16:57 BST (UK)

Elizabeth Ann Griffithsborn Oct-Dec 1838 in Penzance married Walter Charles Pill in Jul-Sept 1863 Penzance. Father William Griffiths Mother Honor Angwin
Hugh Pill(father of Walter Charles Pill) born Jan-Mar 1789 in St. Keverne, Cornwall died 28 Sept 1872 Wherrytown, Penzance. Father? Mother?
and Elizabeth Rowe(Mother of Honor Angwin born 1793 Penzance
and help on census would be appreciated :)


Hi according to IGI and Extracted record we have this :

Honor Angwin (father; RICHARD) married William Griffiths 15 Jan 1839, Madron
Honour and Willam we both 23 at time of marriage.

Richard Angwin = Elizabeth ROWE 3 Aug 1811 Madron (extracted and submitted record) IGI


1841
Madron
Elizabeth ANGWIN 40
Richard  Angwin 20 shoe maker J (journeyman(
Margret   " 20
John Angwin 15 shoe maker ap

next door
Joseph ROWE 20 sawyer
Elizabeth Rowe 20

next door
HONOR GRIFFITHS 23 ...transcribed as GriffEths
Elizabeth Griffiths 3

(no sign of William ...will look for him)

a few doors away
John ROWE 70 shoe maker
Prudence Rowe 40
Peggy Rowe 4

all born in county
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: deb usa on Monday 25 August 08 17:33 BST (UK)
1851
Madron
Under Chapel Yard
Willam Griffiths (Transcribed as Griffith no "s') head mar 35 mariner b WALES
Honor wife 34 b Penzance
Elizabeth dau 12 b penzance

next door;
John ANGWIN head 29 shoemaker b Penzance
Margaret wife 23 b ??
(there is a marriage of a John Angwin to a Margaret Trembath Mar q 1850 Penzance)

deb :)
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: deb usa on Monday 25 August 08 19:00 BST (UK)
By 1861 Honor Griffiths is a widow  Living at 50 Queen Street Madron,

Elizabeth Angwin head wid 68 house keeper
Honor Griffith dau 44 wid plain needle ??
Elizabeth "     grand dau 20 unm dressmaker
all born Penzance

deb
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: genuisscuffy on Sunday 31 August 08 08:00 BST (UK)
Thank you so much - that is a lot of help  :) - Am I right in thinking the 1841 is the first census? and is it a lot harder to go further back?
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: genuisscuffy on Monday 10 November 08 22:19 GMT (UK)
I would just like to say a big thanks to everyone that helped :) I managed to go back a lot further to 1654 (see my last topic) but I couldnt have done that without your help. So thanks again.
Title: Re: Help Please!!
Post by: gwd on Monday 10 January 11 14:22 GMT (UK)
My ancestors also include Robert Pill (b 1685) son of John (b 1654).
You mention 3 sons in a post but I have Robert also.
Does this match your latest info ?
Five generations later I have Sarah (Sally) Pill married to William Borlase, whose son John migrated to Australia where his daughter Grace married William Lewis Mead and his daughter Sara Elizabeth married William Taylor and his daughter Grace was my mother.
I have about 300 Pill listed in my database if you would like to compare data - Graeme Dickason