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This is from the 1881 census RG11 / 4971 - my GGG Grandfather was the master Jacob & Eleanor (Ellena) was his wife.
I'm not sure what the name of the ship is - it's attached for inspection.
We don't know anything about the ship and I'd like to find out more. I have my idea what the name is but would like to make double sure by asking you lot!
Many thanks
Catwomyn
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Looks like what you've named the picture ;) but I read an 'o' rather than an 'a':
Ython of Deal - odd name but that's what it looks like. :-\
... not happy with the word starting with a "Y' - wonder if it could be a "D"?
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thanks - I wasn't sure but since there was a river Ythan in Scotland I thought it might be that.
No idea where to go from here - grr. Off to the occupations board!
Ta
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I favour Ythan. Googling told me that it's an estuary in NE Scotland
Cheers
Ian
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Might find him somewhere on this site
www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/Somerset81.html - 21k -
Pete :) :)
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Ythan
Seen the description yet?
(link edited as no use)
:)
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< Seen the description yet? >
No. My stupid subscription's ran out and I'm undecided as to which account to renew with.
Suppose I'd better go & find the credit card & smile sweetly at the bank manager...
Cat
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Ython of Deal, I'd say.
charlotte
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On the Enumerators Page:-
Vessel - Ythan (very clear)
Official Number - 2915
District/Place to which belongs - Deal
Tonnage - 76
Type - Schooner, Coasting
Master - Poirett
Census Schedule delivered - 28/3/81, Seaham Harbour
Position on April 3rd - Seaham Harbor, Durham
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Thanks everyone - so kind!
I know nothing about ships so lots to learn from now on!
Cat
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Hey cat!
I suggest a trip to the UK Natl Archives if feasible. A quick search (google) of the words ythan schooner deal
turns up this intriguing line:
"Ythan (75 tons) built at Aberdeen in 1832 and sunk by collision with the Norwegian S.S. Franco in 1885"
[ Shipping Register RBS/De1/2 1855-1878 ]
I wonder if Jacob was piloting at the time?
Nick
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Wow!
Thank you SO much Nick, your googling fingers are much luckier (and more patient) than mine.
Might also try and chase Jacob's death certificate.
Thanks again
Cat
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Nick, seems Jacob had a lucky escape as Ellener was still a mariner's wife in 1891.
He possibly snuffed it much later in 1915, but will take a bit more digging.
Thanks again
Cat
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your googling fingers are much luckier (and more patient)
I prefer to think "highly skilled". ;D
Yes, it appears he and Eleanor lived long lives, dying in Whitby in 1915 & 1918 respectively ( at least possibilities).
This according to FreeBMD - I was interested after finding info about the wreck.
Nick
PS Turns out the shipping records cited above are at East Kent Records Centre in Dover, in case that is easier to get to.