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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Monmouthshire => Topic started by: franpow on Wednesday 20 August 08 22:15 BST (UK)

Title: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: franpow on Wednesday 20 August 08 22:15 BST (UK)
I found my G.Dad aged 8yrs living with family of Pugsley in Newport Mon.(His Mums Maiden Name in the 1901 census) However, Sarah (his Mum) is named "Thangettie" along with her son Richard. Where on Earth did she get this name from?

I have ordered a birth Cert for Richard. Feb 1893. died. Sept 1948 Named Purchase Haggett.Couldn't find him  under P.Haggett. It does not exist.
Is the name Thangettie within the realms of reasoning I can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 20 August 08 22:35 BST (UK)
More likely to be enumerator error

Sarah married Richard Purchase Haggett in 1892

Marriages Jun 1892 
 
Haggett  Richard Purchase    Newport, M.  11a 336   

Pugsley  Sarah Ann     Newport M.  11a 336
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 20 August 08 22:43 BST (UK)
Richard is the 1891 entry b Llandenny 1872 parents William P and Edith - have a look at the 1891 for Monmouth  - his aunt & uncle were surname Purchase

RG12; Piece: 4344; Folio 29; Page 2;

Per freebmd

Births Mar 1871 
 
Haggett  Richard Purchase    Monmouth  11a 45
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: franpow on Wednesday 20 August 08 23:22 BST (UK)
I'm a little confused at this information on reply. You see, G.Dads father, (Same name) his parents were Edith&William P.Haggett. Llandenny.1871-2.

Richard P.Haggett (or so I thought) no record of his birth date. I've checked with registras office Newport.
Today I found Richard  surnamed as Thangetti..........including his mother Sarah.in 1901 census.

I checked with Freebmd no luck there.
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 20 August 08 23:29 BST (UK)
I know you found him as Thangetti on the 1901 census but my suggestion was quote
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More likely to be enumerator error
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 20 August 08 23:30 BST (UK)
When Richard junior married - what name did he marry as?
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: franpow on Wednesday 20 August 08 23:49 BST (UK)
Richard Purchase Haggett, Maried Alice Amelia Winfield.1917
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: Telford 1445 on Tuesday 02 September 08 20:54 BST (UK)
I read the first two letters of the surname to be Ha - reading from the image on Ancestry.  The H is very ornate but it's the same as the initial letter for Hodgson two houses up the page.

Don't ask me why there appears to be an odd letter in amongst the rest of the surname - it looks like an n as the third letter before first g -  but perhaps the enumerator was unfamiliar with the surname and did an approximation of Haggerty which might have been a name he was familiar with?  This could possibly explain what looks to me to be ie at the end of the surname.

Hope this helps?
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: franpow on Tuesday 02 September 08 21:34 BST (UK)
Telford 1445, You possibly may have hit the nail on the head. When I spoke to the registrar's office (Newport before the last Bank Holiday) they seemed very positive of digging deeply for this name. However I may need to contact them as no reply has been forthcoming yet. Maybe in the next couple of weeks.

Apparently it has been accepted that Richard P.Haggett was christened, so another day in the Archives shortly, I think.
I wonder if anyone knows if a birth cert must be produced before a marriage can take place? otherwise how would he get married?
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 September 08 21:52 BST (UK)
Hi

If you just search freebmd without putting in a surname and put in christian names Richard Purchase you will find a Richard Purchase Pippard bn Yeovil RD.  March qtr 1854

There is also a possible marriage Yeovil RD  June qtr 1855 5c 877 for a Richard Purchase and a Emma Pippard

Perhaps this is your Richard bn c 1854 born before his parents married

Rosie
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:02 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie

From my reply above dated 20th August

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Per freebmd

Births Mar 1871 

Haggett  Richard Purchase    Monmouth  11a 45


Franpow is searching for the birth reg for the son of the above - also of the same name - who was born around 1892/93 and is 8yrs old on the 1901 census

Parents married June qtr 1892 as per my reply above
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:03 BST (UK)
Also in Yeovil is a marriage for Edith Purchase to William Haggett June qtr 1853. Are these the William and Edith you have 1871

Rosie
Title: Re: Help Granddads changed his name
Post by: franpow on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:32 BST (UK)
The marriage between Edith and William P.Haggett were my G.Grandfathers parents.
 
Their son,  (Richard Purchase Haggett born 1872) married Sarah Pugsley.

His son, (my grand dad born 1893/4 also named Richard P.Haggett. no birth cert married Alice Winfield 1917.