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Good evening,
If anyone has access to Longcot PR's or a Berkshire Marriage index, I would be grateful for any information or details concerning:
The marriage of Lucy HEAVENS & James HATHRILL in Longcot on 23rd January 1826 please.
Notably their father's names if possible, and from which parishes they came.
Many thanks,
Nick
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This 1851 census for Longcot should mainly answer your query with the exception of James father
Richard Heavens 75 widower Parish clerk and farmer b Longcot
Lucy Hathrill 46 dtr shopkeepers wife b Longcot
James Hathrill 50 son in law general shopkeeper b Wiltshire Brinkworth
HO107; Piece: 1687; Folio: 95; Page: 20
In 1861 they are still in Longcot but Richard has presumably died. Birthplaces are the same as the 1851 entry - indexed as Hathiele in 1861
RG9; Piece: 727; Folio: 82; Page: 8
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James' Parents were:
James Hatherel
Hannah
He was christened in
24 MAY 1801 Kington Saint Michael, Wiltshire, England
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Good evening,
Thank you both for your information.
You've successfully solved a question for me !
Much appreciated !
Nick
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From Longcot PRs
1804 Aug 5, HEAVENS Lucy, aged 1 wk, d. of Richard and Sarah formerly TIBBELS
1801 Mar 16
HEAVENS Richard, wid
BISHOP Sarah, widow, botp
wits: Marey HIGGS; Elizabeth YOUNG; Thomas BUTLER
1791 Jul 6
BISHOP James, b
TIBBALS Sarah, sp, botp
wits: Mary HAWKINS; Thos. NOBES
1798 Mar 3
HEAVENS Richard, b
WRIGHT Ann Flower, sp, botp
wits: Thos. NOBES; Grace PAGE
1798 Sep 19
HEAVENS Ann Flower, 24, d Silvister & Ann WRIGHT (formerly FLOWER), died in childbead with a mortification in her legg.
1800 Mar 16
BISHOP James, 49, died of favour
1809 Nov 19
H(E)AVEN, Patient, w of John, 72, died Nov 16th, sudden death
Richard's first wife could have been WRIGHT or WAIGHT.
Ian C
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Longcot marriages
1826 Jan 23
HATHRILL, James, b
HEAVENS, Lucy, sp, botp
wits: Ambrose? HEDGE; Ann CHESTERMAN
Ian C
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Longcot burials
1834 Feb 13, HEAVENS Sarah, 69 (Not sure if this is Richard's wife and Lucy's mother or not)
1855 Jan 5, HEAVENS Richard, 78
1869 Apr 18, HATHRILL Lucy, 64
1870 Aug 25, HATHRILL James, 69
Ian C
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A great many thanks, Ian, for all that information. You've given me a great deal to work from.
Very much appreciated !
Nick
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Good evening
I have just found your topic from 20/08/08 and I am also researching James Hathrill & Lucy Heavens.
The 1851 census for Longcot shows James Hathrill 50 as born in Brinkworth, Wilts.
Following the Brinkworth connection I have found a James Hatheril, bapt in Brinkworth on 28 Dec 1800, son of John & Sarah
Regards
CW
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Good evening,
Many thanks for your message. Can I ask what your source is for the baptism ?Up to now I had only found a baptism in Kingston St. Michael which fitted, but which is some way from Brinkworth.
Your baptism sounds better, notably as Lucy & James's first son was called John and their first daughter Sarah, very probably named after James's parents.
Regards,
Nick
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Hi
I have used a transcript of the Brinkworth baptisms which also show an entry (possibly for John's baptism) as follows:
Hathrill John 19 Feb 1769 s Benjamin & Judeth
The spelling is always a problem and this transcript shows lots of Hathrills and variants Hatharill, Hatheral, Hatheril, Hathriel, Hathril
I only have two children for James Hathrill & Lucy Heavens being
John Hathrill, born 1827, died 1855
James Hathrill, born 1828, died 1865
James married Eliza Hill, and I am researching their daughter Sarah born 16-05-1850
Regards
CW
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Good morning,
Thanks for your reply.
I too have John and James as children for James & Lucy.
If you are researching Sarah Jane b. 1850, I can help you, because I am in contact with a descendant who now lives in Australia. Let me know what you are looking for and I'll see what details I can supply.
Regards,
Nick
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Good morning
Thanks for you reply.
Do you have any other children for James & Lucy as I only have these two.
I am researching Sarah J. b,1850 and I am one of the Australian descendants - 2 of Sarah's sons immigrated to Australia, ( I now live in the UK) and you are probably in contact with my cousin, who I am also in contact with.
I know most of the downline from Sarah and I have given this to my cousins in Aus. It is the ancestry I am trying to sort out, ie. prior to James & Lucy.
I will keep looking at the Brinkworth connection for now.
Did you follow up the posting from FamilyDigger:
James' Parents were:
James Hatherel
Hannah
He was christened in
24 MAY 1801 Kington Saint Michael, Wiltshire, England
Do you think it was relevant?
Regards
CW
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Further to my PM just now:
I had already seen the details about James Hathril in Kingston St. Michael but from experience I would have a tendency to say that the baptism in Brinkworth is the right one, especially with the names of the two parents. There was a custom whereby the names of parents were often given to the first boy and girl, and this would tie up here.
Nick