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Title: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: catherinesimes on Thursday 27 January 05 13:38 GMT (UK)
My Great, Great Grandfather Frederick Walter Simes was
born in Sedlescombe in 1850 before moving to Gravesend around 1878. I do not know where he or the family lived in the meantime. He married an Emily and had three children Frederick Charles, Arthur and Norman born after 1880.

Does anyone have access to the 1861 or 1871 or 81 Kent
census and could find Frederick? He may have been living in Hastings from 1860 with his mother Caroline.

Catherine Simes
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: PaulineJ on Thursday 27 January 05 14:30 GMT (UK)

Can you give us any census to start with? There does not seem to be any match that I can spot.

Alternatively give kids's ages and birthplaces, or addresses for BMD certificates. 

It may be that his name is mistranscribed and birthplace is listed under a bigger town. Where is Sedlescombe near? 

Pauline
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: catherinesimes on Friday 28 January 05 10:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline

If you could have a look on the 1861 Census for Caroline Simes and her children that would be great. I think they may have been in either Sedlescombe (near Battle) or Hastings in 1861.

Caroline Simes born Caroline Crouch in Hastings c1815 age 46 in 1861
Augusta Simes born Sedlescombe in c1847 age 14
Caroline M Simes born       "           in c1849 age 12
Frederick W Simes born "               in 1850 age 11

In 1851 they were at Hancox Farm Whatlington.

Thanks for your help.

Catherine
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 28 January 05 10:35 GMT (UK)
1871

28 White Rock Rd, Hastings

Augusta J SIMES head unm 23 housekeeper b.Seddlescomb
Harriett MOORE visitor married 64 independant b.Derby H Werburburghs??
Sophia BUTCHERS servant unm 23 cook b.Ore Sussex
Annie TUSSLE unm servant 15 housemaid b.Dover Kent

Rg10/1031 folio 117 page 46

Casalguidi
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 28 January 05 10:41 GMT (UK)
1871

48 Wut? Hill Street, Brighton

Frederick W SIMES head unmarried 21 clerk to corn merchant b.Seddlescomb (it is spelt Sa.... in census)

RG10/1082 folio 55 page 10

Casalguidi

Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 28 January 05 10:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine

You say that Frederick was in Gravesend by 1878.  Do you have an address for that reference?

Any address on marriage?

Do you know when/where any of the children were born?

Do you have Fred & Emily on 1891 and 1901 census?  If so could you post details please.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 28 January 05 10:54 GMT (UK)
A possible follow-up entry for sister Augusta?  Just needs the marriage checking out to confirm:

1881

15 Robertson St, Hastings

Charles E HALLETT head mar 30 watchmaker & jeweller b.Bradford on Avon Wiltshire
Augusta J wife 33 b.Seddlescomb
Marion A dau 5 b.Hastings
Frederick W son 5 b.Hastings
Beatrice E dau 3 b.Hastings
Caroline E dau 5m/5w b.Hastings
Mary Ann mother wid 62 b.Ashburton Devon
Samuel PERRY servant unm 18 porter b.Derbyshire
Laura BRIDGELAND servant unm 16 nurse b.Ore Sussex
Alice TILBURY servant unm 15 gen servant b.Hastings

RG11/1026 folio 47 page 11

Casalguidi
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Friday 28 January 05 11:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine

Found him in 1881 now

Frederick W SIMES lodger unm 31 clerk to corn merchant b.Seddlescomb Sussex

Lodging at 11 Brandon?? Street, Gravesend

Loding with a Richard MORSLEY and family

RG11/0874 folio 73 page 35

Casalguidi
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: catherinesimes on Friday 28 January 05 12:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for this - it's certainly filled in a few gaps.
Caroline Simes had a lodging house on White Rock Road Hastings in 1867 so daughter Augusta must have carried it on.

Frederick W Simes is living in Darnely Road Gravesend in 1901 and by then is a seed merchant with a shop on New Road Gravesend.

Thanks for all your help. Where do you get all your info?

Catherine
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: gennig on Friday 28 January 05 12:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine

Do you have the marriages? If not do these help.

Marriages
December QTR 1882 St George Hanover Square 1a 747
Frederick Walter SIMES
possible wife Emily Elizabeth BURTON

September QTR 1874 Kensington 1a 157
Augusta Julia SIMES
Charles Edwin HALLETT

Cheers
Genni



Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: pinky on Wednesday 16 February 05 12:14 GMT (UK)
He lived @ 120 Darnley Rd, Gravesend . 1901 Census.
Title: Re: 1861 & 71 & 81 Census Look Up Simes
Post by: casalguidi on Sunday 15 May 05 12:16 BST (UK)
1861

Flancur?? Farm, Sedlescombe

Caroline A SIMES head wid 40 farmer of 190 acres emp. 6 men & 2 boys b.Hastings
Augusta J dau 14 b.Sedlescombe
Caroline M dau 12 b.Sedlescombe
Frederick W son 11 b.Sedlescombe
Frances TAPPER governess unm 23 governess b.London Middlesex
Jenie WAKER visitor 14 b.London Middlesex
Jane GUY servant unm 21 general servant b.Sedlescombe

RG9/564 folio 21 page 13

Casalguidi