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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent => England => Kent Lookup Requests => Topic started by: MattD30 on Wednesday 20 August 08 03:46 BST (UK)
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Can anyone do a look up in parish registers of Chilham, Molash, Whitstable,Goodestone, Boughton Aluph, Thanet (St Lawrence) and Challock for me?
Also is there anyone who can photograph some tombs in Littlebourne, Kingstone, Ickham, Barham, and Canterbury.
matt
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Hi Matt
I've got transcriptions of Molash & Boughton Aluph parish registers.
Betty
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Hi Matt
I've got transcriptions of Molash & Boughton Aluph parish registers.
Betty
Hi Betty
That's great. Would you mind looking for the following for me?
In Boughton Aluph I'm looking for the following:
Baptism of Jane Clark/Clerk late 16th century (possibly 1580s). She married Matthew Dod in Kennington in 1607. He was born in Boughton Aluph in 1582. I would also be greatful if you had any info on Jane's siblings or her parents marriage if you find her.
I am also after the following in Boughton Aluph
Christening of Robert Dod/Dodd c1545. His parents are supposedly John and Avis Dodd. If you find Robert can you see if you can find John's marriage (I'd say try c1535-1545) and his christening (possibly 1500-1525).
Christening of Anne Gray - she married Robert Dod/Dodd in Kennington in 1571 so may be from there but I'd be greatful if you could check for a birth of her c1540-1555
I'm aslo looking for a woman with the unusual name of Lusbeth Kenneth born in about the 1730s. She married George Baldock in Boughton Aluph in 1760. I believe she was probably born c1739 and he was born c1736. I'd be greatful if you could find a baptism for either of these two between 1720-1745.
George and Lusbeth's daughter Mary Baldock married Nicholas Jordan in Molash in 1785. I would be interested to know if you are able to find a christening for Nicholas in Molash (possibly between 1750-1781).
Thanks
Matt
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Hi Mat,
I have access to Whitstable PRs. Let me know what you are after!
:D
Yvonne
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Hi Mat,
I have access to Whitstable PRs. Let me know what you are after!
:D
Yvonne
Thanks for that Yvonne.
Ok now the bad news - the name I'm looking for is Smith! Don't know how many Smiths are in the PRs but hope it's not hundrereds.
Here's what I'm after
Marriage of Richard Smith and Elizabeth c1782 (maybe earlier)
Richard and Elizabeth had the following children:
Sarah (Jan 1782 Whistable)
Elizabeth (November 1782 Whitstable)
Mary Ann (May 1786 Whitstable)
Richard (April 1788 Whitstable)
Thomas (December 1789 Whitsable)
Nathaniel Shrubsole (1795 Seasalter)
I am also keen to find out if they had any other children before Elizabeth and when Richard and Elizabeth died.
According to the IGI there is a Richard Smith marrying an Elizabeth Thrabsole in Faversham in March 1782 and I wondered if this could be them? Could Thrabsole be a mistrascription of Shrubsole? Given that it is Nathaniel's middle name I am thinking this may be his mother's maiden name. By the way in 1820 Nathaniel married Sarah Chambers of Faversham. Here parents were James Chambers and Sarah Shrubsole!
If you can find Richard Smith's birth as well it would be a great help.
Anyhow that's all for now.
Thanks again
Matt
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:-[ :(
Oops, I though I had answered this, but I've just found my notes & I appear to have started looking & for some reason didn't finish.
I'm looking now :)
Betty
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Oh dear, it's hardly worth waiting for.
The Baptisms I have for Boughton Aluph are from 1558 to 1870, All Saints.
There are Clark/e baptisms (no Clerk) but nothing for Jane.
There are Dod/Dodd baptisms, but, again, nothing for Matthew.
Robert Dod/Dodd would be too early.
Anne Gray would also be too early, but there are no GRAY/GREY baptisms at all.
I've found Lusbeth's marriage, (down as KENNETT)
There are Kennett/Kennet/Kenet baptisms, but nothing for Lusbeth.
There are Baldock baptisms, but nothing for George.
Perhaps there was another church in Boughton Aluph.
The only Nicholas Jordan in Molash was baptised in 1811.
These records are for St Peter's church.
:(
Betty
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Oh dear, it's hardly worth waiting for.
The Baptisms I have for Boughton Aluph are from 1558 to 1870, All Saints.
There are Clark/e baptisms (no Clerk) but nothing for Jane.
There are Dod/Dodd baptisms, but, again, nothing for Matthew.
Robert Dod/Dodd would be too early.
Anne Gray would also be too early, but there are no GRAY/GREY baptisms at all.
I've found Lusbeth's marriage, (down as KENNETT)
There are Kennett/Kennet/Kenet baptisms, but nothing for Lusbeth.
There are Baldock baptisms, but nothing for George.
Perhaps there was another church in Boughton Aluph.
The only Nicholas Jordan in Molash was baptised in 1811.
These records are for St Peter's church.
:(
Betty
Oh well thanks for checking these. I have these entries so thanks for confirming there are no others. Perhaps these people were from other parishes.
matt
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Hello MattD30,
I can clarify, correct and expand your information concerning Smith/Shrubsole marriage at Faversham:
According to the IGI there is a Richard Smith marrying an Elizabeth Thrabsole in Faversham in March 1782 and I wondered if this could be them? Could Thrabsole be a mistrascription of Shrubsole?
Indeed, this was a mistranscription. The entry reads:
Groom: SMITH Richard
Bride: SHRUBSOLE Elizabeth
Event: M 12 March 1782 - by banns
Place: Faversham
Witnesses: Samuel Shrubsole, John Holloway
Sources: PR, AD
I am also keen to find out if they had any other children before Elizabeth...
I believe the marriage above to be the correct couple at Whitstable as there are no children baptised at Faversham. It also appears that Elizabeth, the daughter, born during 1782, would have been the first child of the couple, if the ones from Faversham are correct. You would need to find a settlement/removal for the couple at Whitstable to verify the connection to Faversham or a Will of one of the parents to help tie it all together.
...when Richard and Elizabeth died.
There is no appropriate burial at Faversham for either Richard or Elizabeth at any time between 1794 and 1863. So burial is possibly at Whitstable or Seasalter.
Elizabeth Shrubsole is likely this child:
Child: SHRUBSOLE Elizabeth
Event: C 22 Feb 1761
Parents: Nathaniel/Elizabeth
Place: Faversham
Source: BT
I am basing this on the fact that this couple also had a Samuel at Faversham during 1760. But, I have to add a cautionary note: There is also a couple at Chartham - Nathaniel and Mary, who also have a Samuel and an Elizabeth just a few years previous to the two mentioned above.
The Shrubsoles of Faversham do track back to the couple at Chartham, who, in turn, originated in Faversham. It is quite a tangled web of people.
I have more, but will put it on separate postings to keep all of the information straight.
Sincerely,
Zacktyr
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Hello MattD30,
Continuing with your Shrubsole information:
By the way in 1820 Nathaniel married Sarah Chambers of Faversham. Here parents were James Chambers and Sarah Shrubsole!
Actually, Nathaniel married Sarah's sister, Martha Chambers. Here's the entry:
Groom: SMITH Nathaniel Shrubsole
Bride: CHAMBERS Martha
Event: M 06 Oct 1820
Notes: bachelor, spinster, both of this parish - banns.
Wit: James Chambers
Place: Faversham
Sources: PR, BT
Martha CHAMBERS was christened 14 April 1801 in both the Faversham Parish Church and at Faversham, Partridge Lane Chapel.
Sarah CHAMBERS, the lady you mention above, married her cousin Samuel CHAMBERS 28 Jan 1813 - bachelor, spinster, both of this parish at Faversham. Sources: PR, BT.
The Sarah SHRUBSOLE, wife of James CHAMBERS above, was the daughter of:
Groom: SHRUBSOLE Nathaniel
Bride: SCHOLER Elizabeth
Event: M 24 Dec 1754
Place: Faversham
Sources: PR, AD
having been christened at Faversham on 02 Dec 1770.
So, Nathaniel Shrubsole SMITH married his first cousin, Martha CHAMBERS, as his mother (Elizabeth SHRUBSOLE) and Martha's mother (Sarah SHRUBSOLE) were sisters.
Now, as to Richard SMITH, I do not have any appropriate christening for him at Faversham, Ospringe, Preston-Faversham, Throwley, Badlesmere, Selling, Goodnestone-Faversham, Buckland-Faversham, Leaveland, Graveney, Challock, Great Chart, Little Chart, Bethersden, Pluckley, Lenham, Ashford, Chartham, Westwell or Luddenham. At least, you now know where not to look for this item!
I hope this information helps you with your Shrubsole and Smith search.
I still have more that I can perhaps help you with, and again, will put it on separate postings.
Sincerely,
Zacktyr
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Hello MattD30,
Can anyone do a look up in parish registers of Chilham, Molash, Whitstable, Goodestone, Boughton Aluph, Thanet (St Lawrence) and Challock for me?
I have, among the others mentioned in my previous post, Goodnestone-Faversham, Challock, at ready disposal and Chilham I can check for you during the week.
What entries are you in need of?
Sincerely,
Zacktyr
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Hello MattD30,
Now to deal with the last big area of enquiries you had - DODD family, et al.
First, though, please be aware that very few registers extend back to the 1538 time frame. A few found in Kent will stretch back to 1540 but most begin circa 1554-1558. So, it is most unlikely that unless information comes from a Herald's visitation record, manorial record, or a Will, that you will be able to extend lineage earlier than the 1550s.
However, that being said, you will see that DODD is one of the surnames in my lineage. I have a relatively large database of Dodds throughout Kent, in addition to my direct line, and have spent considerable time this summer trying to connect up all of the loose ends. Please feel free to go to my website (see link on the left margin) and put in DODD surname as the search. I have much, yet, to upload to the site (a busy schedule leaves me little time to housekeep my research) but I do know that among my notes there is data concerning the Mathew Dodd you mention. Drop me an email from the link on that site and I will put you on my list of contacts for updates to the Dodd info.
I hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Zacktyr
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Hello MattD30,
Now to deal with the last big area of enquiries you had - DODD family, et al.
First, though, please be aware that very few registers extend back to the 1538 time frame. A few found in Kent will stretch back to 1540 but most begin circa 1554-1558. So, it is most unlikely that unless information comes from a Herald's visitation record, manorial record, or a Will, that you will be able to extend lineage earlier than the 1550s.
However, that being said, you will see that DODD is one of the surnames in my lineage. I have a relatively large database of Dodds throughout Kent, in addition to my direct line, and have spent considerable time this summer trying to connect up all of the loose ends. Please feel free to go to my website (see link on the left margin) and put in DODD surname as the search. I have much, yet, to upload to the site (a busy schedule leaves me little time to housekeep my research) but I do know that among my notes there is data concerning the Mathew Dodd you mention. Drop me an email from the link on that site and I will put you on my list of contacts for updates to the Dodd info.
I hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Zacktyr
Wow what a lot of info Zacktyr, thanks! :)
I haven't looked at either of these families for a while so will have to look at my notes to see how all this fits together. Also the Dodds seem to be all over the place as you say they were widespread. The name is also found spelt Dod and in some bad transcriptions I've seen Dadd. As for Shrubsole, will that also seems t have a number of spelling variations.
I will have to have a good look at your posts to see how it all fits together. However if you have any more info or think you can offer any more help please pm me or email me at (*)
Thank you again.
Matt
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Clive, I have moved your post regarding the HILLS and ELDRIDGE families so it is a new topic of it's own:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,349157.0.html
Casalguidi :)
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Hi Matt
I've got transcriptions of Molash & Boughton Aluph parish registers.
Betty
Hi Betty,
I am a newbie to this list researching the FRYER family from Boughton Aluph. Please can I ask for a couple of look up's if you are still able and willing? Is there any chance at all please of looking up Baptism and a Prior Marriage :
According to the census's James Fryer Christened /Born between 1848-1850 son of George and Emily Fryer Boughton Aluph. (I have yet to obtain possible GRO index ref: Jun Qtr 1849)
The parents were married prior to Civil Regn est as eldest son Aaron was born abt 1840-1, I cant find any marriage in the GRO index.
I wonder if they married in the Parish ?? Allthough Emily was born Chilham, I am hoping you are still able and willing. Any help very much appreciated.
Regards
Pav
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Hello Pav, welcome to RootsChat :)
I'm happy to do these lookups for you, here's what I've found:
Boughton Aluph Baptisms.
There's two children for George & Emily FRYER, that's George & Walter in 1858 & 1861.
Nine children for George & Emily FRIAR.
3rd Sept 1848 James (George was a Labourer)
Details of the others if you want them.
No sign of a Marriage for George & Emily in Boughton Aluph so it probably did take place in Chilham.
Betty
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From the Mid Kent Marriage Index
http://woodchurchancestry.org.uk/midkentmarriages/
30th July 1831 George FRIAR to Emily ARNOLD at Chilham
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1841 - Boughton Aluph
Margaret FRYER 75 b.kent
George FRYER 30 lab b.Kent
Emily 25 b.Kent
William 6 b.Kent
Ann 3 b.Kent
David 4m b.Kent
HO107/471 folio 4 page 3
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1851 - Boughton Leese, Boughton Aluph
Margarett FRYER wid 86 pauper formerly labourer's wife b.Willesborough
George head mar 42 ag lab b.Boughton Aluph
Emily wife 37 b.Chilham
William son 15 b.Boughton Aluph
Ann dau 12 b.Boughton Aluph
Aaron son 10 b.Boughton Aluph
Mary dau 7 b.Boughton Aluph
John son 2 b.Boughton Aluph
James son 2 b.Boughton Aluph
HO107/1622 folio 342 page 13
Casalguidi :)
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Hi Betty,
thats very kind of you thankyou for taking the time to look them up for me , If possible I would welcome any of the others as well, do you have the actual dates of the Baptisms or just the year?
Can I also thank Casalguidi for the census info and Bearkat for the marriage lookup all so very very welcome, thanks again.
Regards
Pav
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Hi Pav
It's no trouble, & I do have the actual dates of the Baptisms.
I'll let you have them tomorrow.
Betty
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Boughton Aluph All Saints Baptisms
The children of George & Emily FRIAR
1835 17th May William
1838 4th Nov Anne
1841 9th Feb Aaron
1843 13th Oct Mary
1846 14th Jun Fanny
1848 3rd Sep James
1848 3rd Sep John
1851 3rd Aug Caroline
1855 25th Mar Elizabeth
All say George was a labourer.
No note to say James & John (3rd Sep) were twins.
Child of George & Emily FRIER
25th Oct 1832 Emily
Children of George & Emily FRYER
29th Aug 1858 George
14th Jul 1861 Walter
Burials All Saints
Emily FRYAR
31st Jan 1837 age 4 OTP
George FRYER
21st Feb 1863 age 53 OTP
The ages fit with Emily baptised 1832, & George snr on the census.
This could well be Margaret's, (the pauper on the 1851 census) burial:
18th Feb 1852
Margaret FRIAR age 86 OTP
Betty
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Hi Betty,
Thankyou so very very much, all seem to fit in perfectly in my Fryer family research, we have a very excited 95 yr old we are hoping to present his family tree soon! thank you once again.
should you come across any stray Fryers in the locale I would always be grateful to hear of them.
Very Best Regards
Pav :-*
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You are very welcome, Pav, I hope the 95 year old gentleman is pleased with your research :)
There are other Friar/Frier/Fryar families in Boughton Aluph, from the late 1790s.
Betty
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Very Grateful for your help Betty, I am not familiar with the Boughton Aluph area this is the first Time I have ventured into Kent, since we last "spoke" I have found from the IGI Parents of George to be William (B 1764 Chislett)and Margaret Dodd (b 1767 willesborough).
with Williams Parents recorded as William b abt 1738-1744 Chislett whom married a Mary ?? surname unknown. so possibly marr abt 1760 ish.
should you know of anyone who might be able to help with any further lookups, in these Parishes I would be very happy to hear from them,
I am sure there must be a large Fryer Family clan in the area and would love to be able to connect up any individuals anyone might want to post.
Q: Are there any online resources available at all?
I have been looking at the Kent family History cds for sale but for one family in the odd parish seems a bit expensive.
Should anyone have any used cds for sale I am interested for sure.
Pav
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Boughton Aluph
Marriages
1826 11th Mar
Moses FRIAR otp
Amy SHILLING otp
Witnesses: John Brooks, Charlotte Dodd
1812 25th Feb
Caroline FRYER otp
Thomas MEPHAM otp
Witnesses: Mary Fryer, Henry Knowles
1858 22nd May By Banns
FRYAR William (23) Ba of Godmersham. Son of William
JORDAN Mary Ann (19) Sp otp. Dau of Robert
Witnesses: John Jordan, Frances Chittenden
1881 19th Nov By Banns
FRYAR George (23) Ba otp Son of George
HODGES Annie (21) Sp otp Dau of Thomas
Witnesses: William Burchett, Hellen Burchett
1858 25th Jul By Banns
BISHOPP Edward (23) Ba of Kennington. Son of Thomas
FRYAR Anne (20) Sp otp Dau of George
Witnesses: William Fryar, Mary Fryar
:)
Betty
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Boughton Aluph Burials
1818 18th Nov Hannah FRYER 7 OTP (Affd. Bur in Wool)
1837 31st Jan Emily FRYAR 4 OTP
1848 13th Dec Frances FRIAR 31 mths OTP
1852 18th Feb Margaret FRIAR 86 OTP
1863 21st Feb George FRYER 53 OTP
1864 21st Aug Moses FRIAR 59 Kennington
1874 21st Jul Amy FRYER 69 Wye
1875 4th Jan Ann FRIAR 75 Willesboro union
1891 26th Jan Emily Jane FRYER 76 OTP
1897 4th Feb John FRYER 10 OTP
Betty
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Hi Matt
http://www.familysearch.org (select Record Search Pilot) has recently been updated with a vast number of Kent baptisms/marriages and burial including some of the parishes that you are researching
Casalguidi :)