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Title: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Sunday 17 August 08 17:28 BST (UK)
Hi, up until a few months ago I have to admit I had never heard of Dysart and then I discovered that this is where my husband's family come from.  OH is 72 in November and I thought I would try and get his tree organised for him with as much info as poss. 
I would love to know if the two addresses listed on the census I have still exist.
1851 - Flesh Close, Dysart
1861 - Cross Wynd, Dysart
I have searched without success but hoped someone may have heard of them or have some info about them.
I know this is a longshot but these little details make history so much more interesting. Any information gratefully received.  Many thanks.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: Rockford on Monday 18 August 08 10:36 BST (UK)
Hi Royd,

I had relatives living in Dysart from around the 1890s.  As it's now been swallowed up by Kirkcaldy, I found that Kirkcaldy Central Library were very helpful - I was trying to trace WW1 soldiers, but they might be able to help you.

Their contact details are www.fife.gov.uk - use the A-Z search towards the bottom of the page to look for libraries.

Best wishes

Rockford
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Monday 18 August 08 13:25 BST (UK)
Many thanks Rockford I will contact them and see if they can help.  Kind Regards. Royd.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: ostler on Monday 18 August 08 15:28 BST (UK)
I don't think these streets exist anymore but the council should be able to tell you where they used to be or what they're called now.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Monday 18 August 08 15:34 BST (UK)
Hi royd,
I also have looked for theese street,s ,most of the street names have remained only the houes,s have changed the smaller Lane,s &  Wynd,s have gone. There is still a Cross St.
What are your names from Dysart ? you never know some one might have them as well. I,m only 20 mins from Dysart & have a few families from Dysart .  Christine.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: ostler on Monday 18 August 08 15:39 BST (UK)
Where are you, Kirsty? I'm in Markinch. :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Monday 18 August 08 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi Ostler and Kirsty, thank you for getting back to me with this info.  The names I am particularly interested in are Taylor and Watson, closely followed by Smith, Leitch and Miller.  I am grateful for your time.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Monday 18 August 08 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi ostler
  I,m over in sunny Glenrothes  :D
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: patches71 on Friday 22 August 08 20:00 BST (UK)
Hi Royd,

    My wife was born at Birrell Street Wynd, which is now Pathead Village and she remembers Flesh Wynd and Cross Wynd but she cant identify which was which, as there were about four Wynds connecting Commercial Street with Mid Street and then more Wynds connecting Mid Street to Nether Street.

   She remembers the Wynd at the bottom of her street, it was called Two Legged Wynd until someone knocked one of the bollards down then it became One Legged Wynd. I think all Wynds were named by the community rather than the Council.

   Ostler, your Marjory Hughes who married your Wlliam Kinnes in 1864 was a cousin of the Calmans' of Dundee which I see in Christine's interest
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Friday 22 August 08 20:22 BST (UK)
Hi Patches, thank you for getting back to me.  It's interesting about the different Wynds, do you know of any websites which may have pictures or descriptions of them?  Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: ostler on Friday 22 August 08 20:57 BST (UK)
Ostler, your Marjory Hughes who married your Wlliam Kinnes in 1864 was a cousin of the Calmans' of Dundee which I see in Christine's interest
How do you know about that? :/
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Friday 22 August 08 21:51 BST (UK)
Hi patches,
 You can,t say that & leave without telling us how ;D

  Flesh Wynd is between Mid St & Nether St at the top of the Path
the 3 Wynd,s between Back St & Mid St are Broad Wynd,Bogie,s Wynd & West Wynd.
When the new house,s were built most of the street names were kept so Flesh Wynd could still be there.
 My Weir,s were in Mid St but long before your wife was there. :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: patches71 on Friday 22 August 08 22:40 BST (UK)
Hi Royd,

     I'm not really sure but there is a series of books showing "Old Kinghorn", "Old Dysart" etc. giving old photos of the areas. I think WH Smith sells them. I think I have some of them but as I've just moved house it will be a miracle if I ever find them again.

Hi Ostler,

    Its not very difficult, I saw you had Kinnes in your interests and you said that you lived in Markinch. Marjory Hughes was my 1st cousin, three times removed.

Hi Christine,

   I'm sure that there was only one Calman family in Dundee in the late 1700's. Most of this family are buried at the "Howff", grave 58. This is the family of John Calman born 1771, Elie, Fife. John was also my 1st cousin, but five times removed. Is this your family?

   So, if I'm related to both these people then they must also be related to each other
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: ostler on Friday 22 August 08 22:45 BST (UK)
Have we corresponded before?
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Friday 22 August 08 22:48 BST (UK)
Hi,
John Calman & Jane Milne  son William m into my Pullar,s. Kirsty
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Friday 22 August 08 22:50 BST (UK)
I forgot Charlotte Calman grandaughter to William was my godmother.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: patches71 on Friday 22 August 08 23:04 BST (UK)
Hi Kirsty,

   The latest I have on this family is the death of Margaret Herd Pullar in 1943, Dundee.

   I think we have gone off topic
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Friday 22 August 08 23:07 BST (UK)
I know I started this thread, but now I'm totally confused with who is related to whom!!!!   :o
Thanks to those who have helped with Dysart addresses.   ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: patches71 on Saturday 23 August 08 07:53 BST (UK)
Hi Royd,

     If you are still looking for old photos of Dysart, if you go to www.fifefhs.org/publications/stenlake/stenlake.htm this is the Fife Family History Society website and Hugh Hoffman has a stock of these books. They are published by a company called Stenlake Publishing.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Saturday 23 August 08 08:51 BST (UK)
Many thanks Patches.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: kirstyfairfull on Saturday 23 August 08 10:14 BST (UK)
Hi  royd,
If your confused how do you think we feel  :)

Sorry to have taken over your thread Kirsty.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Saturday 23 August 08 16:20 BST (UK)
Not a problem Kirsty.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: tommacgregor on Sunday 24 August 08 07:26 BST (UK)


Hi,

I simply loved all the friendly chit-chat. Patches 71, I was interested in your reference to Margaret Herd Pullar's death in 1943 at Dundee. The name HERD is a family that I'm researching as you may have noticed elsewhere on the Fife Board. Would greatly appreciate a message from you.

Best wishes to you and yours,


Tom.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Sunday 24 August 08 08:27 BST (UK)
Hi Tom, hope you and Patches can help each other's research.  I am thinking of getting the Old Dysart book as a birthday present for other half.   Hope it's appreciated! 
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: tommacgregor on Monday 25 August 08 05:48 BST (UK)

Hi Royd,

Yes, I've been in touch with Hugh Hoffman of the FFHS quite recently, and have made a purchase from the Society some time ago. A really nice group of people.

The book about Dysart would be a very useful thing to have for anyone with an interest in that part of Fife. I would imagine that I would see a lot of changes to my birthplace of Kirkcaldy if it were possible for me to travel.

It's nice to see other RootsChatters giving reference points for various publications. I really appreciate that kind of assistance.

Best wishes to you and yours,


Tom.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: JAP on Monday 25 August 08 06:46 BST (UK)
The Fife Family History Society Site is at:

http://www.fifefhs.org/

Click on the button on the left which reads:
Publications
for sale

A Google for
"Old Dysart and East Kirkcaldy"
(with quotes) will find other places where that book can be purchased - but supporting the FifeFHS is a very good idea.

JAP
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Monday 25 August 08 09:18 BST (UK)
Many thanks for that info Jap. I appreciate it.  Kind Regards.R. :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: MairiD on Monday 25 August 08 21:55 BST (UK)
 Recently researching the Cummings from Dysart, I found two maps in the collection of the National Library of Scotland's collection helpful. These can be accessed online.
   
   The 1855 and the 1894 Ordnance survey maps of Kirkcaldy. By zooming in on these large scale plans, I was able to see the names of old wynds and main streets. I believe many no longer exist.
  Mairi
Title: Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
Post by: royd on Monday 25 August 08 22:23 BST (UK)
Thank you.  Another useful site in my quest.  Regards. R.