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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: JackieWA on Saturday 16 August 08 09:00 BST (UK)
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I am searching the "Royal" family from Norfolk/Gt Yarmouth. I live in Australia and recently saw a posting by bobtonks re Anthony Royal and Ann Bentham. Anthony is my GGGG Grandfather. I have numerous certificates on the Royals and believe that Anthony was married twice - possibly to 2 different Ann's. Anthony's grandson Joseph was married to Harriett Annie Alice Agnes Harbord - who I am told was killed after the Zeppelin bombing raid on Gt Yarmouth. Is there anyone else interested in the "Royals"? I would love to hear from you.
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Hi,
I have Ann Mary Royall born 3dec 1804 Gt Yarmouth, Married in 1827 Norwich to George Curtis, born 16 mar 1806 Gt Yarmouth
I think her parents were Joseph and Susan (Cock).
Eileen
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Eileen,
I dont think this is my relative, as mine is clearly Anthony Royal (one l). I dont know my Ann's parents names.
Thank you for your help.
Jackie
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I've got some Royalls from Gt Yarmouth, if that's any help?
Mary Ann b. 7 May 1846, dau of John Christmas Royall (don't know the day he was born, but I'm willing to guess :))
meles
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Hi Jackie,
I am one of the decendants of our Mr Anthony Royal. I do not think I know any more than you do at this time but I am hoping to get to the Nation Archive before the end of the year to see if I can look up his Naval career. Being a Greenwich pensioner, he should have pension records somewhere. I do not know who his mother or father was but I seem to have found Ann Bentham's parents as John Bentham and Sarah Buckingham. I can remember how I found this at the moment, possibly from freereg.com.
Anthony is my 4G Grandfather, James Royal my 3G Grandfather, Charlotte Royal my 2G Grandmother and then through the Welhams.
I am part of Ancestry.com and would gladly invite you to enter my tree if you think it might help.
Please let me know anything you know as I would be very interested in Anthony, Ann or thier son James.
Happy hunting
Mike Emeny
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Jackie,
I have a Edmund Royal in my tree, details below. Keen to find out more about him as he married a MUTTON. Let me know if any connection...
ROSA MARION MUTTON born in 1882 in Clippesby, Norfolk, UK to William Mutton and Mary E Boddy.
EDMUND ROYAL was born in 1881. Edmund Royal married Rosa Marion Mutton.
Regards
Phil Mutton
Australia too...
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Hello Meles
I am researching the Royall family for a family friend. He is descended from your Mary Ann's brother John George Royall so if you're interested in getting in touch please let me know. I have managed to trace the whereabouts of most of the male siblings but not their sisters so it would be nice to fill in some gaps.
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My great grandmother was Hannah Royal, born in Yarmouth in 1858 or 1859. She was the daughter of James John Royal of Yarmouth born 1827and later of Runham, and Charlotte Hodds, again from Yarmouth born 1830. Charlotte's mother was Amy Julings who married Henry Julings in 1834. Charlotte was either illegitimate or Amy was a widow when she married Henry.
James and Charlotte Royal had a large family -as well as Hannah there were: Henry, Charlotte, Mary Ann, James J, Joseph, William, Edith, Catherine and Alice. These are listed on the censuses in 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891. There may be others not listed on these censuses because they were away from home.
Amy Julings lived with them during all these censuses -in 1891 she is listed as age 86, mother in law and widow --Henry Julings died in 1848.
I would be interested in any infomation anyone has about this family.
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My great grandmother was Miriam Royal (born c.1880, Weeting, Norfolk).
Her parents were John Royal (born c.1850, Brandon, Suffolk) and Lilian Jane Mason. John's parents were John Royal (born c.1822, Brandon, Suffolk) and Jane Jessup.
Probably not related to your Royals, but you never know!
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Hi,
My family of Royals come from the Brandon and Weeting areas and I have quite a lot of information on them if you are interested. I am sure that we are connected. We may be able to assist each other.
Cheers,
Ian Royal
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Hi,
Just a little information for you as I knew we were connected.
Your John Royal b c 1822 who married Jane Jessup was actually the illegitimate son of Ann Royal and John Jewell and was born on 4th November 1821 in Brandon at the home of his grandparents John and Mary Royal nee Johnson . He married Jane Jessup in Brandon on 13th June 1846.
Ann Royal, born about 1803 in Weeting, was a bit of a girl and had another illegitimate child, this time a daughter Sophia Royal born in Brandon on 15th May 1824 to a man called David Hammond.
Ann actually went on to marry a man called George Adams in Brandon on 17th September 1826 and went on to have at least 9 children.
She is the elder sister of my great, great, great grandfather William Royal born about 1805.
I have copies of Settlement Orders and Bastardy Orders relating to this which I will gladly send to you if you would like them.
Cheers,
Ian
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This is all very interesting and thank you for getting in touch. I've been scratching my head about John Royal and Jane Jessup for ages. They seemed to have had a large family and everytime I try to work out how many children they had and their names, I get hopelessly confused! I also could not work out who John's parents were, so it makes sense that he was born out of wedlock. Any further information you can give me would be very gratefully received!
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Hi,
I have a lot of information relating to Brandon: Census returns 1841 all the way to 1901 and Parish records on Microfiche (some have been transcribed into Excel documents). Obviously a lot on the Royals as well.
John and Jane did have a lot of children but what does not help us is the fact that they had some of them baptised twice! I hunted for ages looking for deaths and burials of some of the children as later ones appeared to be born and given the same names. Only to discover that as far as I can tell from all of the records they had the following children:
Mary Ann Royal Abt. June 13, 1847 (Baptism) and (1851 Census) (1861)
Thomas Royal Abt. March 22, 1848 (Baptism) and (1851 Census)(1861)
John Royal Abt. 1850 (Free BMD) and (1851 Census)(1861)
James Royal Abt. February 22, 1852 (Baptism) also (Abt. October 2, 1853)(1861 census)
Emma Royal Abt. May 22, 1855 (Baptism) also (Abt. January 6, 1856)(1861 census)
Isaac Royal Abt. March 8, 1857 (Baptism)also (Abt. December 28, 1862)(1861 census)
Jane Royal Abt. March 6, 1859 (Baptism)
William Royal (1861 census aged 2 years)
Ellen Royal Abt. December 28, 1862 (Baptism)(1861 census aged 2 months)
Harry Royal Abt. December 28, 1862 (Baptism)
George Royal Abt. April 26, 1866 (Baptism)
Is there anyway that we can exchange email addresses and I can send you information direct?
Do you have any information on any other Weeting Royals?
Cheers,
Ian
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I have Hannah Royal b abt 1858. She married Samuel Hambling 27th Sep 1878 Congregational chapel in King Street Great Yarmouth.