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Title: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: harton on Friday 15 August 08 17:25 BST (UK)
I've just found a christening on the IGI for JAMES ANGUS and the place of the christening is given as "Groat Market Meeting-Nc, Newcastle Upon Tyne NBL"". Does anyone know anything about this palace?
Title: Re: Newcastle Metting Place
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 August 08 17:29 BST (UK)
Here's the location of the Groat Market:

Click for Map (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=424841&y=564079&z=1&sv=groat+market&st=6&tl=Groat+Market,+Newcastle+Upon+Tyne,+NE1&searchp=newsearch.srf&mapp=newmap.srf)


The main Quaker Meeting House in N/C is now on Jesmond Road/Archbold Terrace

Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Newcastle Metting Place
Post by: harton on Friday 15 August 08 17:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget, I wondered if it was Quaker.
Title: Re: Newcastle Metting Place
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 15 August 08 19:46 BST (UK)
I've just found a christening on the IGI for JAMES ANGUS


Quakers neither practise baptism nor celebrate the Eucharist.


Stan
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 15 August 08 19:50 BST (UK)
Groat Market Meeting-NC, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland was an English Presbyterian Church built in 1708. It was succeeded by the John Knox Presbyterian on Berwick Street in 1853 and exactly 100 years later, in 1953, this closed and the congregation joined with that of a new (1943) church
at West Denton.

See http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/northumbria/2001-01/0980126692
Stan
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 August 08 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi Stan

Groat Market Meeting-NC, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland was an English Presbyterian Church built in 1708. It was succeeded by the John Knox Presbyterian on Berwick Street in 1853 and exactly 100 years later, in 1953, this closed and the congregation joined with that of a new (1943) church
at West Denton.


Stan



That's really interesting - what is the source please because I'm sure that you haven't got it in memory  :)


Gadget
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: Gadget on Friday 15 August 08 21:15 BST (UK)
It's Ok stan, I've found the quote from Brian Pears:

Quote
It was an English Presbyterian Church built in 1708. It was
succeeded by the John Knox Presbyterian on Berwick Street
in 1853 and exactly 100 years later, in 1953, this closed
and the congregation joined with that of a new (1943) church
at West Denton.


http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/NORTHUMBRIA/2001-01/0980126692

It's always best to give sources, especially if you quote verbatim


Gadget
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 15 August 08 21:55 BST (UK)
My apologies, that was an oversight, it won't happen again

Stan
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 15 August 08 22:10 BST (UK)
Newcastle, John Knox (Groat Market) United Reform Meeting House.
X & Births 1726-1930 [FC1362-63]

http://www.tyneandweararchives.org.uk/pdf/userguide11.pdf

Stan
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 15 August 08 22:20 BST (UK)
GROAT MARKET MEETING-HOUSE (Scotch Presbyterians)
This meeting-house is approached by a long, narrow entry, from the Groat Market; but another and more commodious entrance is by a gateway, opening into the Pudding Chare. It is a good, substantial, brick building, with a spacious gallery, and affords accommodation for above 700 persons. The Rev. William Arthur occurs as minister about the year 1715, when the chapel seems to have been built

From: 'Protestant Dissent: Chapels and meeting-houses', Historical Account of Newcastle-upon-Tyne: Including the Borough of Gateshead (1827), pp. 370-414. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43362. Date accessed: 15 August 2008.





Stan
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: harton on Saturday 16 August 08 00:42 BST (UK)
Thank you for all that information Stan.
Title: Re: Newcastle Meeting Place
Post by: Deb S. on Sunday 31 August 08 13:47 BST (UK)
Thought you might be interested in this:
oral family account of MARTHA MARGARET MORRIS BROWN (b1859) ,  as told to her nephew JOSEPH THORBURN BROWN in 1927 and transcribed in 1953; included in the public BROWN FAMILY TREE (ancestry.co.uk) .

According to her, her grandfather [JOHN BROWN, Master Mariner, b1776 circa] was "a member of the oldest Quaker family in the North". The Browns were highly respected Quakers who had originated in a Quaker settlement in Newcastle, living a communal existence shut off from the world by a compound wall, the gate of which was opened twice daily- once at sunset and once at sunrise- to give bread and milk to the needy.

In 1930, JOSEPH was told by a Newcastle resident that the old Quaker wall was still remembered and spoken about. The then Newcastle County Archivist told him that there was an old meeting house which records show to have stood in an old, large walled garden, but there was no proof that it was ever a walled settlement.

I don't know how accurate this account is- but in other respects, MARTHA has proved to be a very reliable source for our family history.