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Title: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jinxy on Friday 15 August 08 09:08 BST (UK)
Anyone got any old maps of Radcliffe in Lancashire please?
Willing to pay.
Jinxy
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jed59 on Sunday 17 August 08 16:26 BST (UK)
Dont know how old you want but waterstones do a series of old maps circa 1908....might be worth looking  into..cost about £2 -£3 or so.
or have a look on www.ancestralmaps.com   radcliffe isnt listed  on the index of the one I have of Bury 1847  ..but then neither is Bury!!! lol   gives email add info {--at--} ancestralmaps.com
Best wishes
jed


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Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: mosiefish on Sunday 17 August 08 19:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

There is also www.old-maps.co.uk.  Click on maps and then type Radcliffe in the search box it should bring up different dated ones at the bottom.  Some you can zoom in on and some you can`t. :'(  They are also available for purchase.

Regards,
Mo
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Barbara.H on Sunday 17 August 08 20:14 BST (UK)
The Godfrey map series has one for Radcliffe dated 1927 www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk 
Might be the same set that Jed mentions from waterstones, as Godfreys are all around £2 50 each.

Radcliffe also  - just - gets onto the Mario map site run by Lancashire county council http://mario.lancashire.gov.uk/viewer.htm?categ=historic
but I can't find one on there that you can zoom in and get the details.

I can do you 1970 if that's any help!  ;D

Barbara
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jinxy on Tuesday 19 August 08 05:48 BST (UK)
Thank you Jed. Mosiefish and Barbara.

All info appreciated.
Sorry not to reply sooner but I only just got the message :-[
will go check those sites right now.
Jinxy
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jinxy on Tuesday 19 August 08 06:09 BST (UK)
Well folks
I have checked all sites recommended and got no joy I'm afraid.
Too small print. And too blurred when brought closer.
Also most sales of maps are about £2.50 for something like 1 to2 square miles.
I will keep trying though and thanks again.
Jinxy
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Pathway on Tuesday 19 August 08 14:56 BST (UK)
I live in Radcliffe can I help
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jinxy on Wednesday 20 August 08 06:49 BST (UK)
Hello there Pathway

Not sure really but it would be great if you could.

I was born in Radcliffe and a couple of generations of my folks lived there.

I think they lived mainly in the area around the Tower.  The old terraced streets were being demolished way back in the early 70s.

My mum was born in Back Potter Street.
Grandad born in Sion Street (or maybe Zion).
 He wed from and lived in Hamer Street with my nan.
Nan was born in Holland Street
 Other streets which I'm not sure were in Radcliffe are...
Back Bury Street
Ashton Street
Bengal Street
I also had mums cousin and her family who lived on Dumers Lane ... the bit between Close Park and Top O' The Cross.  Just about opposite a pub (cant remember the name of it even though I was wed to my first husband at the Close Methodist Church and we had our reception there) !!   :-[
I was hoping to find a map of that particular area ...hopefully including the old Tower.
I have tried to email the library but up to now have been unsuccessful.
If theres a tourism place to email I could try that.
But if you can think of anything which would be helpful I would be very grateful.
By the way whereabouts do you live yourself?
I was born in York street, just over the Bury Radcliffe Bridge. Pub on corner called Bridge Inn was still there last time I was in the area.
I also Lived in Seddon Avenue. And Park Street.
Sorry for all the waffle. Hope you can help and thank you for your interest :)
Jinxy
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: united on Wednesday 20 August 08 11:24 BST (UK)
What about Bury Council?  www.bury.gov.uk
They must have something somewhere!  The archive section of the library may be able to help.
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Jinxy on Thursday 21 August 08 06:44 BST (UK)
Well United
I have emailed Radcliffe Library, will see what happens and then will try Bury.
Thanks :)
Jinxy
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Arnie991 on Monday 15 September 08 01:45 BST (UK)
Hi everyone

I have been reading your thread and am wondering if you could help me out on some streets? In the 1841 census I think I have relatives on these streets.
1841 Census of England
Civil Parish      Prestwich cum Oldham
Hundred      Salford
County       Lancashire
Reg District      Bury
Sub Reg Dist   Pilkington
Ed institution    11
Street       Five House
How far away is it from Stand Lane and 5 Duke St. Are these streets even in Radcliffe? I live in Canada and am very confused.

Greg
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Barbara.H on Monday 15 September 08 10:07 BST (UK)
Good morning, confused of Canada  ;D ;D

You're in luck as both streets are still there and in Radcliffe - which is next door to Prestwich and Bury. 'Prestwich cum Oldham' and 'Salford Hundred' are to do with old parish/regional boundaries that don't occur on modern maps any more.

The district now is Greater Manchaster postal district M26, so if you look on google maps or similar and search "Stand Lane, Radcliffe, Manchester, Bury, M26" you will see it. Duke St is parallel to Stand Lane and two streets away, about two minutes walk.

If you can't locate it online, post a reply & I'll attach a section of the paper map.

Good luck,
 :) Barbara
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Arnie991 on Monday 15 September 08 23:45 BST (UK)
Barbara

Thanks for the info. Can you tell me where Five house was as a street.

I found the map and found the other two streets.

You say Radcliffe is next door to Prestwich and Bury. from what I posted of the 1841 census where did my relatives live? Did they live in Raddcliffe?

Greg
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: mickbirty on Tuesday 16 September 08 00:28 BST (UK)
Hi. On the census it states that Five House were in Pilkington. Lancashire.

Pilkington was a township of Prestwich and a sub district in Bury district, Lancashire. is cut into the three sections of Outwood, Unsworth, and Whitefield or Stand; contains the hamlets of Ringley, Cinderhill, Blackford, and Hollins.

In 1835 Pilkington was a township in the parish of Prestwich.

Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Arnie991 on Tuesday 16 September 08 03:50 BST (UK)
Hi Michael

I am confused as Barbara has said on the parish's and sub district I just found out that the info I posted about Five house is not my relatives.  I just received the marriage certificate. My G Great Grandfather William Davenport married Jane Pendlebury on May 9, 1841 at the parish of Eccles in the county of Lancastor, they lived at the time of marraige at I think Barton  (I think, the first few letters are hard to read). I know from 1851 on they lived at Stand Lane, so now I am asking where did they live. William was born in Radcliffe and Jane in Pilkington.

A little history they had a daughter born in around 1839 at least that is on the 1851 census, on the 1861 census she is born 1841. On a 1841 census I have found a Jane and Elizabeth at stand lane but no William.

Thanks again for the info,

Greg
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Arnie991 on Tuesday 16 September 08 03:53 BST (UK)
Hi again I want to add that William's father was also called William. he was a weaver and his son a cotton dyer.

Greg
Title: Re: Old Maps of Radcliffe?
Post by: Barbara.H on Tuesday 16 September 08 11:16 BST (UK)
Now I see your problem! There are a LOT of William Davenports on the 1841!! 
Addresses on marriage certs are often misleading, if the address is the same for both parties its often an 'address of convenience' and they may never have lived there. I had a cert like this & the address given turned out to be the church rectory itself.  Stand Lane is more likely home address. Maybe WIlliam is working away or visiting family on census night?

Here is a section from an old (1950s) map to show you Radcliffe in relation to Prestwich, Eccles, Patricroft and Pilkington.  Pilkington isn't named as such, but you can see Unsworth and Whitefield that Mickbirty mentioned as part of Pilkington. Radcliffe about 8 miles away from Eccles but would be very easy to get to. There is a railway line between Radcliffe & Eccles that would have been there even then (Eccles, close to scene of first ever fatal railway accident in 1830). I think they were linked by canal as well.
The map only shows main roads, but Stand Lane is there as you can see.