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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: covbob on Tuesday 12 August 08 08:24 BST (UK)
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Looking for information on my grandfather Trevor Preece born 13 October 1882, Cowbridge, mother Mary Preece daughter of John Preece, Blacksmith. On his birth certificate the space for the name of the father is blank. I was wondering if there is anyway I could possible trace who his father was. Living in Coventry and,unable to drive it makes it difficult for me to visit the Local History Office.
PS My grandfather was a stylish cricketer who played for Glamorgan and a few of the local Cowbridge teams. He was a well respected head groundsman at Cardiff Arms Park in the 1930's.
Regards
Covbob
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Hi Covbob. if it states no father on his birth certificate, there is no way of knowing who his father was im afraid, :'(
came across this link before , you might have it already, but thought i woudl send it all the same
http://www.bridgend-town-cricket.co.uk/clubinfo/history/importantdates.php
best wishes Jo
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Hi again
have found Mary in 1881 aged 15, living with her parents and siblings..
John aged 49, head, blacksmith, born lanbarry, glam
Jane aged 49, wife, born Pendoylan , Glam
Mary, dau, 15, Pendoylan
Lewis, son, 13, Pendoylan
Sarah J, dau, 9, scholar,cowbridge
William j, son , 7, scholar cowbridge
living at bates mill, cowbridge, bridgend
RG11; Piece: 5329; Folio: 41; Page: 17
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looks liek the family without mary and trevor in 1891
RG12; Piece: 4453; Folio 5; Page 3
John Pruce !, head, blacksmith, 59 llanberry
Sarah J Pruve, wife, 59,pendoylan
Lewis Pruce, son,blacksmith 23, pendoylan
Sarah j Pruce, dau, 19, dressmaker,cowbridge
william j Pruce, 17, son,blacksmith apprentice cowbridge
??? village, cowbridge
rgds Jo
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http://content-www.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/18608.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Players/4/4858/4858.html
Jo
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Hi Bob, Welcome to Rootschat :)
With him having same name as his mother looks like she was unmarried at the time of his birth. If unmarried or father was not present at registration, he would, most often, not be included, even if parents were still possibly 'together'
http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm
Do you know anything else about Mary post birth, did she marry, have any more children? Have you tried his marriage cert to see if father is named? Possibly he knew of him.
I have found him in 1901, with grandparents, if you want details, cannot locate him in 1891 at mo. His grandfather, John Preece is named in most of the directories in Cowbridge as blacksmith.
Also found a few online links relating to his time as a Cricketer etc, also some info on his son, which you prob have.
Some things we never get to find out, but, think his marriage cert, may or may not hold a clue? :-\
Cas
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Cas
Re my grandfather Trevor Preece, I do have his wedding certificate and the father is named as John Preece, Locomotive Engine Driver. The date of his marriage certificate was 1908, married in Llansaintffraid, Montgomery and Denbigh. I can only assume he was adopted by his grandfather (John Preece) who was Mary's father. I really don't know whether Mary had any more children or if she did ever get married. My mother seems to think that she was living in Cardiff around 1946, the year of my birth.
Many thanks for your info.
covbob
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There are quite a few marriages for Mary Preece post 1882...without family info it is difficult to pinpoint if she married or had further children.
Seems there is no other source, except possibly family info, that may shed light on your g grandfather :-\
Best wishes, good luck with your future research.
Cas :)
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Have you tried searching for his christening/baptism record These often show the father (or alleged father) where a child is illegitimate.
Glamorgan FHS have produced a transcription of the records for Cowbridge, which you can purchase online.
Of course if they were non-conformist it will be more difficult.
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They do have booklets, and possibly finche...but you would need a reader.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsglfhs/book1.htm
This info is also available as a free look up
http://home.clara.net/daibevan/LookupExch/GLA.html
Cowbridge, Holy Cross Bapts 1718-1887
Possibly worth a go, but in my experience if b out of wedlock, father is not usually named.
Good luck
Cas