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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Phil Goater on Thursday 07 August 08 16:38 BST (UK)
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Hi, I'm interested to find the parents of Walter Grinter whose birth was registered in Swansea in 1890. I'd also be interested to find out about the family of Leah Baker whose birth was registered in Swansea in 1892.
Regards,
Phil
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Parents in 1891 are Walter (36 General Labourer) and Ann (35) and siblings David C (9), Sarah E (7), William (5) and Mary A (2)
+ boarder Arthur and Elizabeth Wight? + son Walter H
Llandilotalybont, Swansea
RG12/4471 Folio 50 Page 8
All born Swansea apart from Walter senior, born Somerset Long......?
Regards
Cat :)
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Thank you Cat - it's what I suspected and hoped for. Could you look at the lodgers again and tell me if the 'W' could be a 'D'? Were they born in Long Load or thereabouts as well? I know Walter senior had a younger sister Elizabeth who married Arthur Dight.
I'd also be grateful for any sign of Leah Baker(1892) in the 1901 census.
Regards,
Phil
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Leah Baker in 1901
RG13/5077/111/12
5 Windsor Street
John Baker, H, M, 44, Dock LAbourer, Devon Istow
Leah, W, M, 48, Devon Bideford
William, Son, S, 21, Furniture packer, Devon Instow
John, Son, S, 19, ? ?, Devon Instow
Charles, Son, S, 18, Masons labourer, Glam, Swansea
Elizabth, Dau, S, 14, Glam Swansea
Sydney, Son, S, 12, Glam Swansea
Leah, Dau, , S, 11, Glam Swansea
Note: Sydney and Leah's ages are two years out
Leah reg Dec Q 1892 & Sidney(sic) reg June Q 1891
Chris
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Hi Phil,
Can confirm that surname is Dight for Arthur, Elizabeth & Walter H on 1891.
Chris
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Many thanks Chris. It looks like a whole generation upped sticks from Somerset to find their fortune in Swansea! It must have had a significant impact on the population of Long Load!
Is there any chance of seeing Walter's family in the 1901 census? I'm looking for clues as to the maiden name of his wife.
Cheers,
Phil
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1901 - RG13 Piece 5073 Folio 134 Page 41
21 Roberts St, Swansea
All others b Swansea, Glamorgan
William Grinter 45 head, gen lab, Som, Long Load
Ann Grinter 44 wife
David G Grinter 19 son, behinder in copperworks
Sarah E Grinter 17 dau
William Grinter 15 son, fitters apprentice
Mary Ann Grinter 12 dau, at school
Walter Grinter 10 son, at school
Edith Grinter 8 dau
Minnie Grinter 5 dau
Alfred Grinter 3 son
Cas
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Many thanks Cas - the distant relations of my wife are becoming more and more numerous! (I trust that should be Walter as head of the family?)
I managed to find Walter's wife's name on freebmd so is it possible to locate the Ann Bevan who married him with her parents prior to marrying him?
Regards,
Phil
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Sorry will recheck....
Transcription says, 'William', image states 'William', all else fits, so must be error :-\
Save me looking, when did they marry?
Cas
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Thanks Cas, I will be surprised if you can sort this one out though. Ann and Walter married in Swansea in the june quarter of 1880. There were quite a few girls with the name Ann Bevan getting married in Swansea around about that date!
Phil
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Your right Phil, have only got a Anna Bevan b 1857 in 1861 Swansea, parents William & Elizabeth.
1871 none b Swansea, but 2 possible same age., think you need the marriage cert before you can track her for sure. Otherwise just spec...
Cas
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I live in Australia and my grandmother came to Australia from Somerset.Her mother was Caroline Grinter who married John Palmer. Has anyone heard of these two names?
regards
Sue
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Hi Ozgypsy, welcome to rootschat :)
This is the only marriage with these names on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Dec 1893
Grinter Caroline Taunton 5c 603
Handford Annie Elizabeth Taunton 5c 603
Palmer John Taunton 5c 603
Quick William Edward Taunton 5c 603
Looked at your first post, where you name your grandmother, do you have an age for her, would these details fit?
1901- RG13 Piece 2278 Folio 21 Page 34
Court 11, 6 High St, Taunton, Somerset
Reg district: Taunton
Caroline Palmer 28 head, married, on soldier pay, West Buckland Somerset
Violet Palmer 3 dau, Taunton Somerset
Lilian Palmer 1 dau, Taunton, Somerset
Rose Beck 20, boarder, single, weaver silk factory, Taunton
1891 - RG12 Piece 1878 Folio 14 Page 22
There is a Caroline Grinter age 18 born West Buckland, with parents George & Martha in Rowbarton, Somerset, and a number of siblings.
Next door to Caroline in 1901 is a William Palmer age 28 & family who could be a possible bro in law. There is a family in 1891 that would fit, with a brother John b 1877 West Buckland, RG12 Piece 1871 Folio 30 Page 12
If you think these are the correct ones, start a thread on the Somerset board, with what info you know, someone will post details for you.
Cas
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Hi Sue,
I can't help thinking that your Caroline must be from the 'Mulcheney' line. Have a look at:
http://www.grintertrees.fsnet.co.uk/index.html There are two Grinter boys who were the sons of John Trott Grinter who married Palmer girls and emigrated to Australia. One of them, Charles, had an eldest child called Caroline b.1864 who is recorded as dying in 1877 who obviously isn't your girl but proves it was a family name.
Regards,
Phil
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Thank you all so much! I am amazed you have such great researching skills! Caroline Grinter had two daughters Lillian and Violet so it looks like you have found her. This is great now I can look at where she came from and John Palmer. Thanks again.
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Hi Sue,
You can view the 1881 census for Caroline Grinter b.West Buckland on the Familysearch site. That entry includes her grandmother Caroline. I think you will also find this site of great interest:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/WestBuckland/WBMar.html
That reveals that Caroline's father George married Martha Hewings daughter of William on26/5/1872 and that his Dad's name was Simon.
Have fun.
Phil
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Bingo!!!
Welcome Sue to the extended Grinter family originating from Muchelney - you are a sixth cousin of my wife!!!
If you look at the grintertrees site you will find your Caroline in the list of names as Caroline Grenter 1872. Click on her name and it will open up her tree. Her line goes back through George, Simeon, John, Robert to Joseph Grinter c.1710 who is my wife's ancestor.
I wish somebody had done all this for my surname!!!
Best wishes,
Phil