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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: Oz Kim on Thursday 07 August 08 01:48 BST (UK)
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HI Everyone
I am looking for information on the Dines Family of Killinchy, County Down.
George Dines (Bailiff) married Mary Hennesy before 1841, probably in the Presbyterian Church.
Of their children, all I have so far is Margaret born c 1841.
I would appreciate anything.
Kim
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Lots of Dines/Dynes here including mention of a George in Killinchy in 1863:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/DunDy.htm
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Hello Kim,
The Belfast and Ulster Towns Directory for 1910 - Killinchy
Dines, Thomas, shoemaker
Dines, William
Griffith's Valuation Killinchy 1863-4
Dines, George, Ballydorn
www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/griffiths_extracts_63-64/Killinchy.htm
Christopher
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Hi Kim.
Could this be your Margaret ?.
Marriage.
Thomas George married Margaret Dines, on the 20 April 1861 in Killinchy Presbyterian Church.
Regards,
Dixie
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Try the PRONI website, www.proni.gov.uk/
It's got a few Killinchy Dines signing the 1912 Ulster Covenant.
Dixie
PS. Griffiths Valuations has a George Dines residing, Ballydorn, Killinchy.
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Try the PRONI website, www.proni.gov.uk/
It's got a few Killinchy Dines signing the 1912 Ulster Covenant.
Dixie
PS. Griffiths Valuations has a George Dines residing, Ballydorn, Killinchy.
That guy has already been mentioned 8) There's at least on person named Dines who is connected with Killinchy Presbyterian Church. You could try contacting her via the church http://archives.tcm.ie/downdemocrat/2007/01/25/story2692.asp
I've linked this thread to the Killinchy area lookup please thread http://tinyurl.com/6rpeqs
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Hi Oz Kim
Margaret Dines married Thomas George in 1861 as Dixie says above. They migrated to Australia in 1864 aboard the Queen of the Colonies after the birth of their first son Thomas in 1863.
I'm descended from their daughter Margaret who was one of ten children.
I have lots of information about the family if this is the same Margaret you're interested in.
Steve
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Oz Kim,..Hi Kim,..... George Dines and Mary Hennesey are my 3 times grandparents. Interestingly George is purported to have been a Bailiff in the Ballydorn / Killinchy area....so maybe not to popular I have been trying to trace him back for a number of years. I suspect that he may have attended the Church of Ireland and not a pressy church. Strangely enough and by sheer coincidence I am presently trying to confirm that information through PRONI . Will advise when I get a reply from them ...and yes I also live in Australia. Will stay in touch. Dan
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Welcome to RootsChat, DYNESD :)
Interestingly George is purported to have been a Bailiff in the Ballydorn / Killinchy area....so maybe not to popular....
Marriage.
Thomas George married Margaret Dines, on the 20 April 1861 in Killinchy Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09608/5484497.pdf
Margaret's father George Dines was a bailiff. She was 20 yrs, a spinster and living at Ballygigan [sic] townland. The marriage took place in Killinchy 1st Presbyterian Church.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killinchy/killinchy/ballygeegan/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4659529#map=12/54.4321/-5.7071
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Thank you so much for the information on George Dines of Killinchy. Irishgeneology is a great site. I had looked on familysearch at the Presbyterian church records Killinchy which starts from 1835. There is no mention of George Dines which may not be a total surprise. On Ros Davies Down web site there is the following........ George DEINES/DEINS/ DINES Killinchy husband of Mary ; father of George bpt. 30 Nov 1828 & Robert bpt. 14 Aug 1831 & Robert (sic) bpt. 6 Jan 1833 & Alexander bpt. 28 May 1843 at Killinchy Church of Ireland. Although the notation is still unclear the Church of Ireland killinchy records for marriages and burials are only from 1819 to 1876 so this may not provide any useful information.Will see what comes out of my proni enquiry which I will pass on in due course. Thank you again .
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What looks like George Dines junior married Mary Gilmore on 24 December 1853:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1853/09457/5426745.pdf
Here are the children born to this couple post introduction of civil birth registration, all at Ballydorn:
- William in 1865:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03589/2323327.pdf
- Margaret in 1867:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03490/2282795.pdf
- James in 1869:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03401/2247265.pdf
- Jane in 1871:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03302/2210070.pdf
- Alexander in 1873:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03177/2165419.pdf
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William in 1865:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03589/2323327.pdf
William Dines married Ellen Kennedy
5 February 1886 - Newtownards Registrar's Office
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10825/5948510.pdf
William living in Ringneill townland in Tullnakill civil parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-lower/tullnakill/tullynakill/ringneill/
1901 census William Dines
House 19 in Irish Street (Killyleagh, Down)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Killyleagh/Irish_Street/1230892/
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First of all many thanks particularly to gaffy and kiltaglassan for their comments ...its really appreciated. That information in time will I am sure will open up valuable lines of enquiry. . This is a great site. My proni enquiry re Church of Ireland Killinchy records for my 4th times grandfather George Dines was inconclusive. I am not sure he wants to be found. However there are a number of Dines names recorded which may help join some of the dots to my Northern Ireland family and this will be the subject to further research. I am happy enough to provide a copy of the available C OF I records but I dont think i can download to this message. If anybody wants me to just download the names I am more than happy to do so.
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Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
DINES Killinchy CI Killinchy Killinchy Down
Gravestone Inscription Erected by William Dines of Bangor in memory of his brother David Dines who died 14th Octr 1843 aged 23 years Also his wife Sophia Dines who died 20th of July 1849 aged 35 years Also his mother Margaret Dines who died 16th Sept 1854 aged 74 years Also the above named William Dines who died 7th December 1867 aged 61 years.
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Thank you Sam....... much appreciated,.... Margaret Deins(?) of Bangor is confirmed on the C OF i burial records aged 74 years. Interestingly my direct Dines family lived on Irish Street Killyleagh upto 1911. When two of my great Uncles were killed in the 1914/1918 war the pension record referred to the family at one point living at Brownlow Street Comber before moving to Newtownards. So there may well be a family connection to the Comber Dines's which is only app 4 miles from Newtownards.
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Do you have this ?
Dynes, Thomas - 28th. August 1918 aged 18 years - Rifleman 10418 2nd. Royal Irish Rifles - Memorial Menin Gate Ypres
Son of Mrs. Ellen Dines of 16 Ann Street,Newtownards.
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Here's the CWGC link for Thomas Dines.
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/1610067/thomas-dines/
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Thank you for the information Sam and Kiltaglassan. I do have my great Uncles information for both Thomas and Alexander Dynes (rip)who were in the Royal Irish Rifles and were killed in the great war. Let me just wish everybody a merry Christmas and a healthy and safe New Year and many thanks again for everybodys advice and information. Will start the New Year with renewed vigour. Kind regards.
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Hi Dan
Sorry it's taken a while to reply. PC issues. I am reduced to what info I have on paper atm rather than what I have recorded on my PC. George Dines & Margaret Hennessy are actually my husbands GGG Grandparents. Their daughter Margaret (born 1841 Ballygigan, Killinchy) and her husband Thomas George emigrated to Australia in 1864 with their son Thomas where they had another 9 children, 4 in Queensland & 5 more when they moved interstate to NSW with only 2 of those 5 surviving childhood. Thomas George was a Miner but disappears off radar sometime after the birth of their youngest child William in 1882. Margaret remarries in 1895 I think (I do have the marriage record on my PC but not on paper) her marital status at the time was recorded as widow, she died the following year 12th June 1896 Mt Morgan, QLD, Australia.
Unfortunately I have very little on George Dines & Margaret Hennessy thus far other than the fact that George was a Bailiff.
Kim
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Their daughter Margaret (born 1841 Ballygigan, Killinchy)....
Should it not be Ballygeegan?
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killinchy/killinchy/ballygeegan/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4659529#map=13/54.4536/-5.7096&layers=N
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Hi Kim, Good to finally catch up. So George Dines (born 1805) is my 4th times grandparent on my paternal side. As you say he was a bailiff. PRONI unfortunately do not keep any bailiff listings/records. If you look on the familysearch website George's Dines surname is spelt Deines. The spelling could denote a German or Aberdeenshire origin or a phonetic origin. As previously advised the Church of Ireland records Killinchy refer to a Mary Deines of Bangor so I suspect a family link. The Dines/Dynes family tree is on Ancestry which was done by a cousin some time ago which I was never able to add too because of a lack of records. My dna results are also on that site.(I dont suppose ?) At the moment I am trying to collate information provided from a number of sources which I will place on this site. I am impressed by the generous response from the Rootschat forum which I appreciate very much. I live in the Noosa area Sunshine Coast. Will stay in touch. Kind regards Dan
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Hi All
All these posts look interesting.
I'm a lot further down the chain in years, but would be interested in more of the details.
My surname is Dynes , but looking back through history it used to be Dines.
George Dines was my Grandfathers great grandfather. Interestingly my grandfather was also named George Born 1893 (Ireland) paswed away 1961 (Dover, Kent)
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Welcome to RootsChat, Gary D :)
The OP (Oz Kim) was last online here in February, so should be receiving a notification of your post.
George Dines was my Grandfathers great grandfather. Interestingly my grandfather was also named George Born 1893 (Ireland) paswed away 1961 (Dover, Kent)
Is this your grandfather's birth record?
George Dines - birth 19 August 1893 at Killyleagh. Father William a labourer. MMN Kennedy.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02297/1861646.pdf
For others reading, here he is with his parents and siblings in the 1901 Irish census.
House 19 in Irish Street (Killyleagh, Down). (see also reply #11)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Killyleagh/Irish_Street/1230892/
The village of Killyleagh.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killyleagh/killyleagh/corporation/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4596905#map=12/54.4125/-5.6861
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Some more information on the Dines family of Killyleagh-
Mary Dines (aged 14 on the 1901 census) married James QUINN on 8 December 1905 at St Mary's RC Church, Killyleagh.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10180/5703869.pdf
Martha Dines (aged 12 on the 1901 census) married John KENNEDY on 1 May 1908 at Killyleagh 2nd Presbyterian Church. Martha aged 19 yrs and a mill worker. Her brother Hugh Dines was one of the witnesses.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10053/5656252.pdf
Hugh Dines (aged 10 on the 1901 census) married Elizabeth DICKSON on 24 May 1912 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09912/5602279.pdf
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Gary, George Dynes (born 1893) was my great Uncle. He joined the Royal Irish Rifles and was wounded in the battle of Mons in 1914. He married Emily Goddard in Dover in 1912 and had about 13 children. Emily died in 1939 and he remarried to Lillian Homes in 1949. He passed in 1961 (rip) I think I have a photo of him so just let me know. Kind regards Dan
Kiltaglassin, .....first of all thank you so much for the information that you have provided in more ways than one because I have previously incorrectly used Newtownards as the registars district on previous irishgeneology enquiries. So the information is very new to me although I was aware that Martha Dines (my great Aunt) married a John Kennedy who was killed in WW1 (rip) There is a John Kennedy named on the Killyleagh war memorial which I have always taken to be him. Coming back to the information in respect to Mary Dines theres a bit of a question mark given her marriage to James Quinn in St Marys RC church and I note no Dines named as a witness and her father is identified as William Dines? A mixed marriage maybe ? Thank you again. Dan
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Hi Dan
Sorry for the late reply, I was away last week.
My Dad (David) who passed away December last year, was one of the 14 children and now only one alive , Ralph Dynes. It was Ralph who told me about the name change from Dines to Dynes. A photograph would be fantastic and any others you might have.
Many Thanks
Gary
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Gary D,
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